Chester Zoo Previous species.

Two of my favourite previous residents would have been the single male gaur and musk oxen
 
Ahhh right, as much as I miss the bison at Chester I would say that it is worth it. The Tsavo is brilliant, and rhinos are my joint fave animals (with Orangs).
 
bongorob said:
Sun Bear (Helarctos malayanus) 1933-1976.
The last specimen died from a papillary adenoma of the gall bladder.
I have no idea what that is.
an adenoma is "a benign epithelial tumor in which the cells form recognizable glandular structures or in which the cells are derived from glandular epithelium." (from the internet :)). Papillary adenoma affects the breast and nipple - not sure how that ties in with the gall bladder! It may have meant to be (again, courtesy of the internet): papillary cystadenoma, which is
1. any tumor producing patterns that are both papillary and cystic.
2. a type of adenoma in which the acini are distended by fluids or outgrowths of tissue.

I don't know if that's any clearer....
 
Javan Rhino said:
Wasn't sure about whether a new one was needed, on another forum I go on it is against the rules to resurrect threads that are over a few months old.
on Zoochat it is fine. Hypothetical situation: someone posts a thread regarding the arrival in seven months time of, say, a pair of lesser speckled pipplesqueak-birds at a certain zoo. The thread then sits idle until the birds arrive and then it is resurrected to announce the news. Happens all the time (but not necessarily with lesser speckled pipplesqueak-birds).
 
an adenoma is "a benign epithelial tumor in which the cells form recognizable glandular structures or in which the cells are derived from glandular epithelium."
I don't know if that's any clearer....

In humans, adenomas are benign tumours occurring in many parts of the body. Effects can be serious depending on location but they are not usually fatal. Human gall bladder adenomas are usually harmless incidental finding but can rarely progress to invasive malignant disease, ie turn into cancer. I don't know about the situation in sun bears, may be a friendly zoo vet will be along soon...

Is it Southern or Northern lesser speckled pipplesqueak birds you are tallking about?
 
Pygathrix said:
I don't know about the situation in sun bears, may be a friendly zoo vet will be along soon...

Is it Southern or Northern lesser speckled pipplesqueak birds you are tallking about?
I knew if I posted then a vet would be bound to pop in at some point to correct whatever I wrote (or a doctor, as I figure tumours and cancers act the same way in humans and other animals).

And it would be the pole lesser speckled pipplesqueak-bird, a very localised form (gentlelemuricus if split)
 
But following DNA studies the Southern lesser speckled pipplesqueak-bird has just been split into the Northern Southern lesser speckled pipplesqueak-bird and the Southern Southern lesser speckled pipplesqueak-bird, both of which are entirely distinct from the Northern lesser speckled pipplesqueak-bird. Obviously all captive-bred Southern lesser pipplesqueak-birds must now be regarded as hybrids, and removed from the breeding programmes forthwith, or be fed to meerkats.
 
Pertinax said:
I thought the Northern lesser speckled pipplesqueak was already extinct, leaving only the form gentlelemuricus?
it depends on the split. Some would retain gentlelemuricus within septentrionalis, in which case the latter is not treated as extinct. There is also the matter of the debate as to whether "pole lesser speckled pipplesqueak-bird" is a truly apt name as its range is centred on northern England which does make one wonder exactly which pole the name is referencing.

And as Pygathrix has pointed out whilst I was typing, the southern lesser speckled pipplesqueak-bird is now split in two itself which complicates the relations of the entire group
 
Ahh cool, any info on where Upali is planned to go to, or will he stay at Chester (I wouldn't imagine there would be room for 2 fully grown, breeding bulls). Will he retire from breeding do you think, or will he become a breeding bull in another collections herd?

Chester certainly haven't got room for two bulls at least with the existing accomodation. Whether Upali goes on to breed elsewhere or is 'retired' will be largely decided by the Studbook organisers. It might also depend on whether they can definately connect 'Raman's death or any other outbreak of Herpes virus to him (or not) and what the outcome is regarding the other calves he fathers at Chester. There still seems a lot of controversy surrounding how the virus is transmitted, another opinion is that most(all?) Asian elephants carry it in a 'dormant' form.
 
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