Rare/Absent species from the UK.

Its a shame about tarsiers (I thought there were Philippine Tarsiers in captivity?). It would be interesting if any zoos could source this species.
 
Hi DesertRhino150

The two species on the list i have kept are, Japanese Harlequin beetle and the Giant Velvet Mites, unfortunatly the Velvet Mites are VERY hard to breed in captivity and the majority are wild caught. The Japanese Harlequin beetles however are regularly bred in captivity and mine were 2nd generation.
I will PM you some details if you like :)
Thanks
Stu
 
We definitely need expansion in the pinniped and cetacean areas!
Others that I would agree with off the top of my head...
Platypus
Giant Panda
Polar Bear
Thomson's Gazelle
Raccoon Dogs
+ more Gharials, (I don't know their abundance, but saw them in the US and thought that they were unusual/nice.)
 
sealion said:
We definitely need expansion in the pinniped and cetacean areas!
Others that I would agree with off the top of my head...
Platypus
Giant Panda
Polar Bear
Thomson's Gazelle
Raccoon Dogs
+ more Gharials, (I don't know their abundance, but saw them in the US and thought that they were unusual/nice.)
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I can agree with all of them. Gharials would be ace, none in UK I don't think and it is one of the first species I would look at if running/owning a wildlife park.
 
mazfc said:
I'd love to see more raccoon dogs. I love the 2 old girls at the Yorkshire wildlife park, and whilst they seem to be very common in collections in the rest of the world, they are only held in 2 uk collections.
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Do you know if they have any plans to try and perpetuate them- either by importing a male, or a younger pair perhaps? It would be a great shame to lose them again from the UK, in fact I'd like to see a few more places going into these. But I don't know how easy they are to breed- on the ISIS listings not a single holder(and there are quite a lot in Europe and elsewhere) is shown as having bred them in last 12 months- coincidence or 'difficult' species?
 
Pertinax said:
Do you know if they have any plans to try and perpetuate them- either by importing a male, or a younger pair perhaps? It would be a great shame to lose them again from the UK, in fact I'd like to see a few more places going into these. But I don't know how easy they are to breed- on the ISIS listings not a single holder(and there are quite a lot in Europe and elsewhere) is shown as having bred them in last 12 months- coincidence or 'difficult' species?
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They are actually becoming more and more avalible in private circles and I know a number of private keepers keeping and breeding them. If UK zoos wanted to exhibit them they would not be be hard to obtain.
 
Pertinax said:
Do you know if they have any plans to try and perpetuate them- either by importing a male, or a younger pair perhaps? It would be a great shame to lose them again from the UK, in fact I'd like to see a few more places going into these. But I don't know how easy they are to breed- on the ISIS listings not a single holder(and there are quite a lot in Europe and elsewhere) is shown as having bred them in last 12 months- coincidence or 'difficult' species?
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they can't be too hard to breed as they are (or were) produced commercially on fur farms
 
Javan Rhino said:
I can agree with all of them. Gharials would be ace, none in UK I don't think and it is one of the first species I would look at if running/owning a wildlife park.
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I thought that someone has said that they were somewhere, but you rarely see them in collections-kids would love them!
 
sealion said:
I thought that someone has said that they were somewhere, but you rarely see them in collections-kids would love them!
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Unfortunatly not, and they are not common in the rest of Europe. Good old Zootierlist lists the only places in Europe keeping them as:

Praha Zoo (Czech republic)
Eskilstrup (Krokodille Zoo) (Denmark)
Pierrelatte (Reptilienzoo) (France)
Hamat Gader (Crocodile Farm and Zoo) (Israel)

False Gharials are a little more widespread (though only a little) ZootierlisteHomepage.

As for whether any of these are in private collections that don't have listings on Zootierlist, I don't know. I agree, they would make a fantastic exhibit and children would love the unusualness of them (something I've noticed many children enjoy). It would give the zoo an advantage as well, since with other crocodilian species many people won't know the difference.
 
Javan Rhino said:
Unfortunatly not, and they are not common in the rest of Europe. Good old Zootierlist lists the only places in Europe keeping them as:

Praha Zoo (Czech republic)
Eskilstrup (Krokodille Zoo) (Denmark)
Pierrelatte (Reptilienzoo) (France)
Hamat Gader (Crocodile Farm and Zoo) (Israel)

False Gharials are a little more widespread (though only a little) ZootierlisteHomepage.

As for whether any of these are in private collections that don't have listings on Zootierlist, I don't know. I agree, they would make a fantastic exhibit and children would love the unusualness of them (something I've noticed many children enjoy). It would give the zoo an advantage as well, since with other crocodilian species many people won't know the difference.
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Yep, and kids love the "scary" (for want of a better word) predators!
 
Pertinax said:
Do you know if they have any plans to try and perpetuate them- either by importing a male, or a younger pair perhaps? It would be a great shame to lose them again from the UK, in fact I'd like to see a few more places going into these. But I don't know how easy they are to breed- on the ISIS listings not a single holder(and there are quite a lot in Europe and elsewhere) is shown as having bred them in last 12 months- coincidence or 'difficult' species?
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The two raccoon dogs at YWP are 2 elderly females that were 'inherited' from when it was brockhall farm. (which would explain the lack of breeding;) ) but i really dong k ow what their future plans are.
 
DesertRhino150 said:
I would love to see more in the way of unusual species come into Britain, and have devised a minor list of species that, if I had the choice, would be high on the list of animals that would come over to Britain:

Mammals
Red giant flying squirrel
Formosan pangolin
Yellow-throated marten
Piebald shrew
Common vampire bat
Beira antelope
Golden-mantled saddleback tamarin
Common spotted cuscus
Water opossum
Black agouti
Matschie's tree kangaroo
Central American cacomistle
Banded linsang
African tree pangolin
Black-and-rufous elephant-shrew
Goodman's mouse lemur
Impala
Sumichrast's vesper rat

Birds
Screaming piha
Flame bowerbird
West Mexican chachalaca
Blue-billed curassow
Dwarf cassowary
Little blue penguin
Azure-breasted pitta
Violet cuckoo
Blue-headed quail-dove
Grey gull
Red-legged kittiwake
Great black-headed gull
Yellow-fronted woodpecker
Greater yellownape woodpecker
Campo flicker woodpecker
Rufous-necked wryneck
Kruper's nuthatch
Kagu
Montezuma oropendola
South American yellow oriole
Violet-crowned hummingbird
Raggiana bird-of-paradise

Reptiles and Amphibians
Siamese crocodile
African tiger snake
Allison's anole lizard
Giant amphisbaena
Ko Tao island caecilian

Invertebrates
Bullet ant
Japanese giant hornet
Blue weevil
Kirby's dropwing dragonfly
African rainbow shield bug
Chinese water stick insect
Indonesian yellow crab spider
Japanese harlequin tiger beetle
Indian giant red velvet mite
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nice list altho i know where i my self could get african tiger snakes and indian velvet mites and no people with both
 
There are many unusual species of Reptiles , Amphibians and Invertebrates being held in private hands and imported by dealers , a lot of them being successfully bred . If anyone has a spare £2000 they could buy a Chinese Alligator from a dealer in Gloucester and get 1p change . I am not keen on the attention being given to breeding colour morphs of so many species though .
 
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