Reimagining the Bronx Zoo

Great Argus said:
Your solution to "too ambitious and logistically burdensome" was to create three yards and a long dead end path by taking out a parking lot?
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I'm working on it. I didn't say any of this was gonna be perfect and I would appreciate some understanding.
 
tigris115 said:
This is something I legitimately want to do.

There will be some mistakes on the way but let me cook.
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I guess I don't understand what you're going for, then. I assume by asking for building specs, etc you want this to be realistic. But the things you've been posting aren't remotely feasible, unless you get the zoo tycoon infinite money hack. Even the one way path wouldn't happen, before factoring in costs and to destroy what's already there and then build this new stuff. The zoo doesn't have all of this money, and if they somehow managed to get it, they're not going to spend it on this massive thing for a species that is very unwanted by a lot of people (sadly).
 
Ok then consider the parking lot idea scrapped.

And this isn't me being angry. San told me it was too logistically demanding and, tho I was stubborn at first, I agree.
 
Ok I'm working on a new Asia map that's far more harmonious with the zoo's current infrastructure. If anyone wants to have a sneak peek, just hmu in DM's
 
Leaf Productions said:
What do you suggest about Mouse House the House with the Mouse
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Make all the side monkey cages into 1 or two larger cages

Have one of the tanks themed around NY rats. You can even source them from the subway but I wouldn't; too many diseases.

Oh also, try to improve the noise absorption of it and the Reptile House and those places give me a headache
 
tigris115 said:
Make all the side monkey cages into 1 or two larger cages

Have one of the tanks themed around NY rats. You can even source them from the subway but I wouldn't; too many diseases.

Oh also, try to improve the noise absorption of it and the Reptile House and those places give me a headache
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Themed how?
 
TinoPup said:
Themed how?
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That's a good question. Having seen rats on the tracks a lot, one idea could be making the exhibit look like the bottom of the subway track area. That really grimy spot where the rats are. Or perhaps, make it look like a piece of train track.
 
tigris115 said:
That's a good question. Having seen rats on the tracks a lot, one idea could be making the exhibit look like the bottom of the subway track area. That really grimy spot where the rats are. Or perhaps, make it look like a piece of train track.
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What would be the purpose of this?
 
To be fair, the old Dierenpark Emmen had an entire exhibit for black rats themed after a sewer. You could also have signage dedicated to epidemiology, how rats act as vectors, but also highlight a rat's intelligence. Philadelphia's enclosure in KidZooU does an opposite approach, having rats in a bright and colorful environment that's meant to make them more approachable.

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Personally, I always thought that it would be cool if a bird house had, maybe as a final exhibit, a recreation of a stretch of city sidewalk, maybe the side of an apartment building with some adjacent planted areas, with rock doves, European starlings, house sparrows... sort of to highlight that birds really are everywhere and always with us, even in what must seem the most inhospitable of habitats (and, with those three in particular, to sound a warning as to how we're losing native bird species and becoming a world of what are, essentially, the animal equivalent of weeds.

I'd say a rat exhibit with a cool educational message would be a welcome feature of a zoo small mammal house. One that just has the message, "ew rats are gross and crawl around in liquid feces," could use some work. I don't particularly like animals being used for ick value - not saying that's what you're going for, but that's how I think it would be interpreted
 
Aardwolf said:
Personally, I always thought that it would be cool if a bird house had, maybe as a final exhibit, a recreation of a stretch of city sidewalk, maybe the side of an apartment building with some adjacent planted areas, with rock doves, European starlings, house sparrows... sort of to highlight that birds really are everywhere and always with us, even in what must seem the most inhospitable of habitats (and, with those three in particular, to sound a warning as to how we're losing native bird species and becoming a world of what are, essentially, the animal equivalent of weeds.

I'd say a rat exhibit with a cool educational message would be a welcome feature of a zoo small mammal house. One that just has the message, "ew rats are gross and crawl around in liquid feces," could use some work. I don't particularly like animals being used for ick value - not saying that's what you're going for, but that's how I think it would be interpreted
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I was trying to go more for that all animals are interesting, even something as seemingly regular as the humble New York rat.

I would also like to talk about how rats have so many different abilities that let them survive in the city such as swimming abilities, crawling through holes, being able to gnaw through a lot of stuff, etc.
 
tigris115 said:
That's a good question. Having seen rats on the tracks a lot, one idea could be making the exhibit look like the bottom of the subway track area. That really grimy spot where the rats are. Or perhaps, make it look like a piece of train track.
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You'd need to get rid of a lot of the other existing enclosures and species to do this. Considering this is the only really extensive small rodent collection in the nation--at least at a major zoo--this would be a pretty major downgrade and loss to AZA diversity.

An extensive, educational exhibit for Brown Rats might honestly be of more value in something like the Children's Zoo. Maybe one of the rabbit or tortoise yards or something. Obviously would need to be fully contained in the end but I think that'd be more worthwhile than razing a wing of the Mouse House. It's also worth noting that the Mouse House had Brown Rats for quite some years, I believe right next to the House Mice.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that Brown Rats are invasive to North America.

~Thylo
 
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ThylacineAlive said:
You'd need to get rid of a lot of the other existing enclosures and species to do this. Considering this is the only really extensive small rodent collection in the nation--at least at a major zoo--this would be a pretty major downgrade and loss to AZA diversity.

An extensive, educational exhibit for Brown Rats might honestly be of more value in something like the Children's Zoo. Maybe one of the rabbit or tortoise yards or something. Obviously would need to be fully contained in the end but I think that'd be more worthwhile than razing a wing of the Mouse House. It's also worth noting that the Mouse House had Brown Rats for quite some years, I believe right next to the House Mice.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that Brown Rats are invasive to North America.

~Thylo
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I was envisioning a space that'd just take up one of the tanks in the Mouse House.

But you are right, the Mouse House can't fully realize this concept.

Tho I still stand by the fusing of the monkey cages and more noise dampening
 
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