Rare Species Conservation Centre RSCC closing

MalayanTiger said:
I got this information by a volunteer who is still in touch with Todd zoogiraffe. I do not want to write her name for a matter of privacy, the reliablity of a person can't be estimated by the knowledge of his/her name for sure.
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You are not the only person in touch with sources that are still in touch with Mr Dalton,and none of mine have mentioned anything about Tigers going to Hamilton,and they certainly not mentioned anything about Tigers going to Scotland!On top of that I know of No Public or Private Collections in that area of Scotland,despite doing a Freedom of Information request for Collections in that area that hold a DWAL,none of which have any form of Big Cats and no application to keep one has been made,which they would need to do!!But then sometimes when Mr Dalton is involved things happen that you don't expect,hence why I never believe anything until it has happened!!
 
zoogiraffe said:
No Public or Private Collections in that area of Scotland,despite doing a Freedom of Information request for Collections in that area that hold a DWAL,none of which have any form of Big Cats and no application to keep one has been made,which they would need to do!!
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I'm presuming this was not done since Malayan Tiger's original post though (if so, I'm amazed at the turnaround of FOI requests in Scotland:D). Therefore there is a theoretical (though infinitesimally small) possibility that someone's applied for a DWAL to keep tigers in Hamilton since your request. :p Even if that were true I'd say it was still very unlikley that Tigers from a breeding programme were sent to an only recently established private keeper.

All that said, I still adhere to the following...

zoogiraffe said:
But then sometimes when Mr Dalton is involved things happen that you don't expect,hence why I never believe anything until it has happened!!
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zoogiraffe said:
You are not the only person in touch with sources that are still in touch with Mr Dalton,and none of mine have mentioned anything about Tigers going to Hamilton,and they certainly not mentioned anything about Tigers going to Scotland!On top of that I know of No Public or Private Collections in that area of Scotland,despite doing a Freedom of Information request for Collections in that area that hold a DWAL,none of which have any form of Big Cats and no application to keep one has been made,which they would need to do!!But then sometimes when Mr Dalton is involved things happen that you don't expect,hence why I never believe anything until it has happened!!
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Granted that I'm referring you what my source told me and I'm not saying anything for certain I do not pretend you to rely on my words zoogiraffe.
 
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Dear Zoochat accounts,

It's official: Sahaja and Cicip the Malayan Tigers (Panthera tigris jacksoni) are going to be moved to Hamerton Zoo Park, Cambridgeshire on 29th September.
 
MalayanTiger said:
Dear Zoochat accounts,

It's official: Sahaja and Cicip the Malayan Tigers (Panthera tigris jacksoni) are going to be moved to Hamerton Zoo Park, Cambridgeshire on 29th September.
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So it would seem they are not going to Hamilton Scotland,it would seem that your source wasn't that reliable,as they were only the 319 miles out as to where they are going to!I trusted my sources that told me that they would go to Hamerton,when they told me over 6 weeks ago!
 
zoogiraffe said:
So it would seem they are not going to Hamilton Scotland,it would seem that your source wasn't that reliable,as they were only the 319 miles out as to where they are going to!I trusted my sources that told me that they would go to Hamerton,when they told me over 6 weeks ago!
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My source just made a mistake in writing the message zoogiraffe, that's all.
I do not want to start an endless discussion once again.
 
It is good to hear that the Malayan Tigers are at least remaining in the UK, it certainly makes sense for them to go to Hamerton.
 
Nanook said:
It is good to hear that the Malayan Tigers are at least remaining in the UK, it certainly makes sense for them to go to Hamerton.
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Exactly, also, the presence of the only Malayan Tigers (Panthera tigris jacksoni) in the UK is definitely going to make the Hamerton Zoo Park more captivating than how it already was.
 
It's a bloody nice place as it is; have you ever been? :)
 
TeaLovingDave said:
It's a bloody nice place as it is; have you ever been? :)
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Unluckily not TeaLovingDave, but since I'm going to move to the UK in two years and since I've been studying the Malayan Tiger (Panthera tigris jacksoni) for ten years, seeing the only specimens in the UK is a real duty to me. Also, I'll likely move to Hamerton or to a nearby town and I'll try to become a zookeeper at the Hamerton Zoo Park in order that I can see Sahaja and Cicip on a daily basis.

In case of an eventual reopening of the Rare Species Conservation Centre, I do sincerely hope for that, I'll move to Sandwich.
 
J.simpkin said:
The topic of the thread may not prove popular with everyone. I feel that the record should be set straight with regards to this establishment.
Whilst its is unfortunate that this centre has closed is doors this week, the project itself was ill-conceived with the ethos of being about the conservation and awareness of this species.
The concept was born by Todd from a fascination, which later became an obsession to have an exotic collection, as far as I can see as en eccentric talking point. Lest we forget the 'Leopard man of Peckham!
The conversational values of this zoo are hardely note worthy as little has been seen in terms of this.
Whilst it had connections with zoos worldwide, it was very much down to them to do the hard work of raising awareness of the species, as RSCC stood on the shoulder of giants in order to catch the limelight.
I do not wish to peak ill of the staff, as they undoubtedly work very hard to keep the vision of this eccentric alive, but it was always doomed to failure.
My final point that is anything RSCC has done more harm than good for these endangered species as now, larger zoos will see very little commercial value in having these species in their collections.
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As a previous member of staff at RSCC, I feel these comments unnecessary. I understand that many people are disappointed in the fact that it didn't work out, although in our short existence we managed to do a lot of things that maybe haven't been mentioned enough. I feel you are purposely leaving a lot of things unsaid about the species. The centre bought new bloodlines of Malayan tiger into Europe. One of the biggest genetic variation groups of rusty spotted cats known in Europe. Todd personally and with the trust donated to lots of different in-situ conservation projects example; free the Bears, the clouded leopard conservation project, the tarisus project etc. including helping to fund the build for a new nursery at free the Bears in Cambodia.

Also the education of the public, I feel that the RSCC did an amazing job of teaching people just how many different animals there actually are. As an example;

A young girl came to the centre and when asked what her favourite animal was in the morning she stated a tiger. (Nice and original ) as she was leaving from her day at the centre I asked again and her favourite animal was now a fanaloka! And when she visited again she was wearing a save Madagascar shirt. ☺️ One of the highlights for me!

I hope people remember the amazing species that were held here. Yes not everything was perfect, but where is ☺️ We will miss it that's for sure!
 
Vareciak said:
I hope people remember the amazing species that were held here. Yes not everything was perfect, but where is ☺ We will miss it that's for sure!
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Over the last couple of years the RSCC became one of my favourite zoos to visit. I’ll certainly remember the fascinating species kept there and I’ll miss my visits enormously.
 
Vareciak said:
As a previous member of staff at RSCC, I feel these comments unnecessary. I understand that many people are disappointed in the fact that it didn't work out, although in our short existence we managed to do a lot of things that maybe haven't been mentioned enough. I feel you are purposely leaving a lot of things unsaid about the species. The centre bought new bloodlines of Malayan tiger into Europe. One of the biggest genetic variation groups of rusty spotted cats known in Europe. Todd personally and with the trust donated to lots of different in-situ conservation projects example; free the Bears, the clouded leopard conservation project, the tarisus project etc. including helping to fund the build for a new nursery at free the Bears in Cambodia.

Also the education of the public, I feel that the RSCC did an amazing job of teaching people just how many different animals there actually are. As an example;

A young girl came to the centre and when asked what her favourite animal was in the morning she stated a tiger. (Nice and original ) as she was leaving from her day at the centre I asked again and her favourite animal was now a fanaloka! And when she visited again she was wearing a save Madagascar shirt. ☺️ One of the highlights for me!

I hope people remember the amazing species that were held here. Yes not everything was perfect, but where is ☺️ We will miss it that's for sure!
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Well said!

A props: I really do hope the RSCC comes up somewhere else some time soon in some other form.

For now: I wish Todd and the Zoo Team - including you yourself - all the best and hope that your experience will find you all new employment rather sooner than later.
 
It was also one of my favourites and I miss it very much already.
I learned a lot about species I never even would have heard of and got some amazing photos that I will treasure forever. I can't thank Todd and the keepers enough for the work they did.
 
Does anyone know what happened/ will happen to the Tarsiers and Cuscusses?
Will they leave Europe as well?
 
Of course, whether they last long there - never mind go onshow - remains to be seen.

I very much hope the tarsiers at least hang around.
 
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