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This weekend, I intend to take a train out to visit the Saint Louis Zoo, and possibly the St. Louis Aquarium. I am hoping to stay the night and spend both days at either the zoo or both facilities, and am planning to stay as close to the zoo as possible. So far, things are looking great!

What animals should I make a priority to look out for? Anything only out at certain times of day? Notable individual animals? Advice for birds and reptiles is especially appreciated but mammals as well. I've only been recently to all three Chicago facilities, Denver and Milwaukee (and National as a kid) so even species that are on the common side but aren't held at those may be of interest here! Cougar is far, far, far from a rarity but excited to see them, for example. :)

Any other zoo advice? Are certain places better to eat or rest? Certain paths better avoided? Certain keeper chats? Historic buildings that don't currently house animals?

How worth it is the aquarium? I'm not expecting rarities or anything, I've read the reviews here on zc, but I thought it might be nice just to see a different aquarium for once; but would a second day at the zoo be more worthwhile? Could I easily fit a trip to the aquarium and a second zoo trip in one day?

Any other travel advice? This will be my first time in St. Louis. I'm not planning to travel around much to be honest, which is part of why I want to stay close to the zoo, a relative in the family has given me a lot of 'neighborhood' advice, but open to what is advised. Is the zoo close to the big arch?

I also welcome any fun information about St. Louis Zoo's history as well. I like to read up on the history of facilities when I visit them; it really enhanced my Denver visit to compare new exhibits to what they replaced and get to know the history of the collection.
 
For the zoo, I recommend doing the Herpetarium first thing in the morning. Its a great exhibit, but it really is best experienced when it isn't crowded as it is quite popular meaning that it gets very loud and hectic to see what you want to see, and nearly impossible to get a good amount of time with the animals. The most busy time at the zoo is midday, so I would try to spend it in the lower traffic areas- Bird House, Bird Garden Trail, Cypress Swamp, and Red Rocks hoofstock yards (but NOT Big Cat Country). Definently do not miss the Bird House, they are home to the horned guan, of which the zoo is the only holder in the US, as well as other rarities like buff-crested bustard. Cypress Swamp is also a must see for its history, even if the collection doesn't really offer rarities (its all native/native adjacent waterfowl and pelecaniformes, a double-crested cormorant, and a white-winged duck). Its my personal favorite part of the zoo and I spend a lot of time there.
River's Edge is another exhibit that I recommend trying to beat the crowds with as it can be a frustrating place to be with heavy traffic. The paths are not the widest and a lot of the viewing areas are pretty small. I would say morning or later evening is best.
If puma is a species you're excited for I will say they can be a bit unreliable so I recommend checking in on them multiple times through your visit.
As for food its pretty typical zoo food and every place there for the most part has the same kind of menu items. I still eat there instead of going off-campus or bringing my own for convivence sake. I find it enjoyable but its nothing to write home about. Of course it is overpriced, so there is that. If you do decide to eat there, I recommend Lakeside Crossing. It has a good location right in the middle of the zoo and a wide variety of options. I don't recommend Cafe Kudu because the traffic flow in there is a mess. I will say make sure you get there before 11:30 before the lines start to get too long there. I have see them out the door.
Another note is the zoo does not provide lids for drinks so if you can bring a water bottle.
That's all for now, I will probably think of more and be back soon. Do you have any particular species you are wondering about or would especially like to see?
 
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For the zoo, I recommend doing the Herpetarium first thing in the morning. Its a great exhibit, but it really is best experienced when it isn't crowded as it is quite popular meaning that it gets very loud and hectic to see what you want to see, and nearly impossible to get a good amount of time with the animals. The most busy time at the zoo is midday, so I would try to spend it in the lower traffic areas- Bird House, Bird Garden Trail, Cypress Swamp, and Red Rocks hoofstock yards (but NOT Big Cat Country). Definently do not miss the Bird House, they are home to the horned guan, of which the zoo is the only holder, as well as other rarities like buff-crested bustard. Cypress Swamp is also a must see for its history, even if the collection doesn't really offer rarities (its all native/native adjacent waterfowl and pelecaniformes and a white-winged duck). Its my personal favorite part of the zoo and I spend a lot of time there.
River's Edge is another exhibit that I recommend trying to beat the crowds with as it can be a frustrating place to be with heavy traffic. The paths are not the widest and a lot of the viewing areas are pretty small. I would say morning or later evening is best.
If puma is a species you're excited for I will say they can be a bit unreliable so I recommend checking in on them multiple times through your visit.
As for food its pretty typical zoo food and every place there for the most part has the same kind of menu items. I still eat there instead of going off-campus or bringing my own for convivence sake. I find it enjoyable but its nothing to write home about. Of course it is overpriced, so there is that. If you do decide to eat there, I recommend Lakeside Crossing. It has a good location right in the middle of the zoo and a wide variety of options. I don't recommend Cafe Kudu because the traffic flow in there is a mess. I will say make sure you get there before 11:30 before the lines start to get too long there. I have see them out the door.
Another note is the zoo does not provide lids for drinks so if you can bring a water bottle.
That's all for now, I will probably think of more and be back soon. Do you have any particular species you are wondering about or would especially like to see?
Minor correction but Saint Louis is not the only holder of Horned Guan, it's the only holder outside of Mexico (there's one or two zoos there that hold the species).
 
Minor correction but Saint Louis is not the only holder of Horned Guan, it's the only holder outside of Mexico (there's one or two zoos there that hold the species).

Minor correction - Walsrode also holds horned guan. :)

Having visited St Louis last year, I'd agree that the busiest areas (to visit first) would be the Herpetarium (with a lot of rare species, if you are a 'lister') and the River's Edge. It's a great zoo, enjoy!
 
I know they feed the penguins / puffins shortly after opening. To add to the “OMG you need to do this first” crowd. I haven’t been to the aquarium. It seems… okay. The arch is pretty meh unless you pay extra to go to the top. City Museum might also be worth a stop. I didn’t get to go because it wasn’t open on the day I tried to fit it in.

The St. Louis Bread Company isn’t a regional chain. It’s Panera trying to scam you.

There’s a birds of prey center and probably the most significant Native American archeological site east of the Mississippi right outside of St. Louis if either of those sound interesting.
 
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The St. Louis Bread Company isn’t a regional chain. It’s Panera trying to scam you.
That isn't exactly the right word - it's the original name of what was once a regional chain, and some stores in the area still keep that name. I feel like just a simple look at the logos on one of the stores would make it obvious it's just a Panera.
 
There’s a birds of prey center and probably the most significant Native American archeological site east of the Mississippi right outside of St. Louis if either of those sound interesting.
Do you mean World Bird Sanctuary?
 
After some discussion it looks like my first visit will be reduced to a day trip and I'll only be in for the afternoon.

I am taking notes into account. Herpetarium and River's Edge best or later in the day. Red Rocks and birds earlier in the day. I'm actually quite excited about the aviaries even though I'm often poor at identifying birds, they're quite unlike what we have in Chicago.

Do you have any particular species you are wondering about or would especially like to see?
Thank you for asking. Besides various hoofstock (kudu, lechwe, goral, babirusa, urial, banteng, gazelles) at Red Rocks, mostly the sun bear, jaguar, spectacled langur, and lemurs especially sifaka. Black mamba is the main reptile and cormorant the main bird outside the penguin exhibit. Maybe king vulture?

Do they no longer hold tomistoma/gharial? I notice it's not on their website.
 
After some discussion it looks like my first visit will be reduced to a day trip and I'll only be in for the afternoon.

I am taking notes into account. Herpetarium and River's Edge best or later in the day. Red Rocks and birds earlier in the day. I'm actually quite excited about the aviaries even though I'm often poor at identifying birds, they're quite unlike what we have in Chicago.


Thank you for asking. Besides various hoofstock (kudu, lechwe, goral, babirusa, urial, banteng, gazelles) at Red Rocks, mostly the sun bear, jaguar, spectacled langur, and lemurs especially sifaka. Black mamba is the main reptile and cormorant the main bird outside the penguin exhibit. Maybe king vulture?

Do they no longer hold tomistoma/gharial? I notice it's not on their website.
Cool! I will say that I am in the progress of compiling information about the rarities at stl but I can give you some more information about the others you've mentioned. I will preface by saying that I wouldn't get my hopes up too high for sun bear or spectacled langur. With the former, I have rarely seen them active, and they tend to hide, so its hard to get a good viewing experience. With the latter, just because of the nature of the exhibit complex they're in, Canopy Trails, they aren't consistently viewable, unfortunately. I honestly usually skip the Primate House but whenever I do go in they don't have an indoor viewing area for the species, meaning that if the spectacled langurs don't want to be outside, they won't be viewable. Its still worth checking the Primate House though, as I said I haven't been in there in a while and things do change.
As for the lesser kudu, ironically enough given the zoo's logo, there are no males on display as of my last visit. There is a large yard though near the Cypress Swamp where the females are mixed with saddlebill storks and varying species of gazelles (as per last visit, there was a singular Speke's gazelle in there).
The Soemmering's and Speke's gazelle vary a bit in location. They have been placed in various mixed exhibits but are also sometimes solo. As of my last visit, there are two small yards behind the giraffe yard. Aesthetic-wise, these yards are probably among the weaker exhibits at the zoo, unfortunately.
The addra gazelles are a bit more consistent location wise. They've been in the mix in the giraffe yard before, but I haven't seen them there in about a year. There is also a yard near the Red Rocks restaurant and tables right by the viewing area. The menu selection isn't as big as it is at Lakeside or Cafe Kudu, but if you could find something there that you'd be alright with you could watch them while you eat.
Weather permitting, all the gazelle species at the zoo are pretty consistently viewable. If you go on a colder day, they tend not to be out though. I think they're supposed to keep them inside when it below 50 or 55 degrees out, but I am not entirely sure on that one. Provided its a warm day though, I usually do see the gazelles.
There are two babirusa yards, one closer to where the addra gazelle and one near the giraffes and bantengs. I'd recommend spending more time at the latter, since those individuals seem a bit more active. The two individuals in that yard are very interactive with each other. Do be aware though that giraffe feeding lines often spill out into the viewing areas for that yard though, as well as the Speke's gazelle yards, so I would avoid it at giraffe feeding times.
The Nile lechwe is another one of the species kept behind the giraffe yard. He's pretty consistent. He likes to musk himself in his droppings so he rarely has clean fur. He's a pretty majestic animal if you can look past that though.
Jaguar is another inconsistent one. When he is out and moving or even just lying in an open spot, he is quite popular, but he does have big viewing areas so its not so bad. He's another one I would try to come back to multiple times throughout the day, because he usually is out at some point, its more of a matter of when. Jaguars and lions have a big enough viewing area so that even during high traffic times at the zoo, you can have a pleasant viewing experience, despite the popularity of the Big Cat Country complex. Its really the smaller species in the mesh-topped exhibits (Amur leopard, snow leopard, puma) that can be difficult and frustrating to view during high volume times at the zoo.
Coquerel's sifaka is usually viewable. They're pretty active in Canopy Trails and usually have an indoor exhibit in the Primate House too.
Black mamba is one of the more active reptiles, which isn't saying too much but still. It doesn't garner much more than average attention from guests when its resting, but when its moving about people can crowd around the exhibit so it can be hard to view. If you visit the Herpetarium during lower traffic times, this isn't so much of an issue though.
I absolutely love the STL zoo's cormorant! He's probably one of my favorite individual animals at the zoo. His name is Jack, and he's a rescue. He was caught in a fishing line and had a wing injury, so one of his wings had to be amputated. He just has such a big personality. He lives in the Cypress Swamp. He is sometimes hiding in the tall grasses so you might have to stick around for a bit for him but its worth the wait. Cypress Swamp is such a great exhibit to just hang out and get immersed in.
As for the penguin exhibit, as popular as it on this site, I honestly don't spend too much time there. I go to the zoo primarily for photography, and that exhibit doesn't really lend itself too well to photography (at least not with the equipment I have). I do spend quite a bit of time outside with the Humboldt penguins though. Unsurprisingly, this part of the zoo gets crowded and there are sometimes lines to get inside so its another thing I'd try to do at lower traffic times. Also, I recommend bringing a face mask. Its a great exhibit but the smell is not the best part, and the face mask can mute that part a bit (though not completely).
King vulture is outside during warmer months but in the Bird House for winter. Right now, its mixed with red-billed blue magpie. Its actually neat because when its outside, its right next to the cinereous vulture, so you can actually see a representative of both the old and new world vultures side-by-side.
As per my last visit, tomistoma/ Malayan gharial is still very much at the zoo. Its the first exhibit to the right when you enter the lower level of the Herpetarium through the outside. They don't have an Indian gharial (or gharial proper) though and haven't in recent history.
Also, I'll give more detailed explanation of traffic patterns at the zoo, as I realized I probably didn't communicate that as clearly as I could. On weekdays, the first hour or two is pretty slow. Then the traffic gradually increases up until about noon. After that, it stays relatively stagnant until about 2:00 or so, when people, especially families with young kids, start to clear out.
On weekends, it is much busier overall but the mornings stay slower longer. Its really after noon when its starts to pick up, and it doesn't clear out until pretty late.
I will also mention two things since you said you're interested in birds. The first thing is that the zoo does have a 15 minute free-flight bird show. It consistently features and American barn owl, black-crowned night heron, African gray parrot, Abdim's stork, and bald eagle. It also sometimes features a tawny eagle (another rarity) and red-tailed hawk. The second is that Forest Park, in which the zoo is located, is an excellent place to see native birds, so I recommend staying in the park after you leave the zoo. To that point, watch the lakes at the zoo for native birds. There are so many great egrets, American wood ducks, and black-crowned night herons that the zoo actually signed them there. I've also seen snowy egret, green heron, hooded merganser, gadwall, and a subadult yellow-crowned night heron, to name a few.
 
@cloudedleopard611 Thank you so, so much for all the advice, I'm taking a lot of notes.

Thank you especially for clarification on the tomistoma as that is one of the animals I was most excited for until I noticed it missing on the website.

Is there a large difference between weekday and weekend crowding or is it pretty much the same right now?
 
@cloudedleopard611 Thank you so, so much for all the advice, I'm taking a lot of notes.

Thank you especially for clarification on the tomistoma as that is one of the animals I was most excited for until I noticed it missing on the website.

Is there a large difference between weekday and weekend crowding or is it pretty much the same right now?
There is a pretty big difference between weekend and weekday patterns. Its less noticeable in the summer, at least in terms of volume (patterns still differ significantly) but in the school year (starts mid-August, I'm not sure if its the same in Chicago or not). its VERY different. Weekdays are much slower and for the most part, you don't really have to worry so much about where you are when, though I'd still be careful with the Herpetarium as well as the Insectarium if that is something you're wanting to do. Because of how the size of the exhibits its really just hard to have a fulfilling viewing experience if there's many people in there at all. The one thing during I'd caution about is school groups, something as a zoo-goer I am sure you've experienced. They are especially prevalent in the spring (April-May). They are however basically non-existent during the off-season (roughly Mid-November to March) but do be aware that the zoo operates at a lower capacity at this time. During January-mid-March (if memory serves, could be wrong on the exact timing), the zoo only had Lakeside Cafe open as a dining option and only stayed open from 10-4. It was definently not my favorite thing they've done and I really hope they don't go that direction in subsequent years. Also, the zoo really isn't in its best state during these times. River's Edge is an exhibit that especially suffers from the lack of vegetation. The immersion just doesn't work nearly as well. Also, a lot of the Cypress Swamp species are not out. That being said, the double-crested cormorant, a species you expressed interest in, is a year-round species.
 
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It looks like we may be rescheduling for August due to a family situation. I'll keep in mind and shoot for time during the week though.

Thank you again for all the help @cloudedleopard611 -- last question but is there anything that might be taken off-exhibit for the season between now and September?
 
It looks like we may be rescheduling for August due to a family situation. I'll keep in mind and shoot for time during the week though.

Thank you again for all the help @cloudedleopard611 -- last question but is there anything that might be taken off-exhibit for the season between now and September?
I don't think anything will for seasonal reasons. That normally happens when the temperatures drop significantly. I'm sure some birds and herps will go off exhibit and some others will pop up, but I don't have any informed guesses as to what those might be. I do always post updates on those kinds of things on the news thread so I do try to keep the community up to date as possible on that stuff.
 
I don't think anything will for seasonal reasons. That normally happens when the temperatures drop significantly. I'm sure some birds and herps will go off exhibit and some others will pop up, but I don't have any informed guesses as to what those might be. I do always post updates on those kinds of things on the news thread so I do try to keep the community up to date as possible on that stuff.
I know some zoos wait for the actual temperature drop but I was under the impression some had a date where they moved animals to winter holding. I do keep track of the thread and will continue to do so :)
 
I know some zoos wait for the actual temperature drop but I was under the impression some had a date where they moved animals to winter holding. I do keep track of the thread and will continue to do so :)
Yeah, I think it its a little bit of both. All the summer species should still be out in August though. Its usually mid-Octoberish when those are taken off exhibit.
 
It's a good thing we've been planning for one of the greatest zoos in the country, because otherwise I'd be giving up by now, lol

My original target was early July. I decided to return to Milwaukee first to test my tolerance for a longer train trip. It felt short so I felt good about making a longer trip, but there was concern about my ability to afford a hotel overnight. I made a second trip to Milwaukee and managed to finally see some hoofstock.

We then postponed to August and it became a family trip, no longer related to the train, as we decided we would meet family in the area. There was some discussion of stopping at southern Illinois zoos as well. Coordinating with extended family pushed the trip into late August. I arranged my days off work to accommodate a four-day trip.

In mid-August my family came down with COVID-19 and we all isolated for ten days and I returned to work. The days off I'd set for my trip I ended up needing to work due to making up for my illness to my co-workers and my boss jotting down the wrong day off. I wasn't going on the trip anyway.

So now, the trip is set for late September, and me and my family still need to make arrangements.

Back to the zoo stuff, since that's why we're all here -- for the mid-July trip, I actually was avoiding information about the zoo so that I could be surprised on my visit. I'd certainly picked up notes over the years, but wanted to leave some surprise. With the delays I've been spending more time reading old reviews on the site and the news threads to know more before I go. I'm at the point I actually have retained some memory of the zoo layout.

I wonder if the crowds will be easier by then? I'm thinking of hitting Red Rocks or River's Edge first and then working my way across, although if things are less busy by then I'm sure it'd be fun to start at Historic Hill.
 
It's a good thing we've been planning for one of the greatest zoos in the country, because otherwise I'd be giving up by now, lol

My original target was early July. I decided to return to Milwaukee first to test my tolerance for a longer train trip. It felt short so I felt good about making a longer trip, but there was concern about my ability to afford a hotel overnight. I made a second trip to Milwaukee and managed to finally see some hoofstock.

We then postponed to August and it became a family trip, no longer related to the train, as we decided we would meet family in the area. There was some discussion of stopping at southern Illinois zoos as well. Coordinating with extended family pushed the trip into late August. I arranged my days off work to accommodate a four-day trip.

In mid-August my family came down with COVID-19 and we all isolated for ten days and I returned to work. The days off I'd set for my trip I ended up needing to work due to making up for my illness to my co-workers and my boss jotting down the wrong day off. I wasn't going on the trip anyway.

So now, the trip is set for late September, and me and my family still need to make arrangements.

Back to the zoo stuff, since that's why we're all here -- for the mid-July trip, I actually was avoiding information about the zoo so that I could be surprised on my visit. I'd certainly picked up notes over the years, but wanted to leave some surprise. With the delays I've been spending more time reading old reviews on the site and the news threads to know more before I go. I'm at the point I actually have retained some memory of the zoo layout.

I wonder if the crowds will be easier by then? I'm thinking of hitting Red Rocks or River's Edge first and then working my way across, although if things are less busy by then I'm sure it'd be fun to start at Historic Hill.
I am sorry your trip keeps getting delayed! That must be really frustrating.
Historic Hill or at least the Herpetarium is actually a good first stop when it comes to busy days, though I would save the Bird House, Bird Garden Trail, and Cypress Swamp for when crowds pick up. For the most part, I would not take the zones too seriously just because of how the zoo is laid out. Weekdays in late September should be fairly calm, but by no means off-season calm. There are still parents with very young kids (not yet school age) and unfortunately school field trip groups. It is one of the most visited zoos in the country, after all.
If I had to suggest an order I would say start at Herpetarium, move on to River's Edge in the morning. Then have lunch before 11 or preferably even before 11:30 if you could make that work (assuming you would eat at Lakeside, which would be my recommendation) before the bulk of the crowds make their way over there. Then go through Fragile Forest to the Cypress Swamp, then up the Bird Garden Trail, back to the Bird House, and then to the red rocks hoofstock yards, keeping in mind giraffe feeding times when it comes to the species behind the giraffe mixed yard, as the line can form around the viewing area for those exhibits. Then once crowds lighten, go through Big Cat Country and then through Primate Canopy Trails and the Primate House (the latter of which I would personally recommend skipping to buy more time for their other much better and more interesting exhibits, depending on whether you can see a good amount of the primate collection in Canopy Trails), then go by gorillas to Polar Bear Point, then Penguin and Puffin Coast, then Grizzly Ridge. Then I would go to Lakeside Crossing for Sea Lion Sound. If you have any time left before the day's end, I would use that going back to any species you were excited for that you either did not see or only saw at a bad angle. I realize that's probably a lot so if you would like I could mark up the map to give it a visual.
 
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All right, the plans are set, and the zoo visit should be Friday. We'll be staying five minutes from the zoo. Very much looking forward to it. We may have a chance to run by on Saturday morning before leaving although I'm hoping to leave that time open for stopping at small zoos on the way up. We'll see.

I also see the aquarium is open til 8PM on Friday, which probably won't mean anything but is making me wonder if I could stack it after zoo hours. Shame it's not Thursday it's their late night. Still very tempted to try to stop in but also not interested enough to "force" it.

Still open to any last minute advice!

@cloudedleopard611 If you could markup a map as such I would appreciate it.
 
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