Same species in different parts of the zoo

Melbourne Zoo in Australia is notorious for this.

They have the following double ups:

-Aldabra Tortoise
-Tasmanian Devil
-Sumatran Tiger
- Squirrel Monkey
- Kookaburra
- Meerkat
- Coati
- Peccary

I haven't even mentioned the all bird species and reptile species. Regarding the reptiles, all are displayed in the Reptile House, and some also have exhibits elsewhere in the zoo.

The problem for me is the fact that there's absolutely no need for these double ups. None of the above species are breeding at such high rates, and so the zoo dosen't have a large number of any of those species. The zoo has just displayed them there to fill up an empty enclosure.
 
Chlidonias said:
Maybe connect the dots?
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Melbourne constructed entirely new enclosures for their Sumatran Tigers, Tasmanian Devils and Coati in the Carnivore precinct when they already had pre exisiting enclosures elsewhere.

And in the cases of filling up the empty enclosures, i'd much prefer for it to be a new species, rather than just a double up from elsewhere in the zoo.
 
Jambo said:
And in the cases of filling up the empty enclosures, i'd much prefer for it to be a new species, rather than just a double up from elsewhere in the zoo.
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So what? You said "there's absolutely no need for these double ups" and then literally within the space of another sentence gave the exact reason why there were double-ups.
 
In the wild, a pair replaces its numbers if 2 of their young survive to adulthood. In zoos, the number can be much larger. Perhaps there should be a limit to the number of progeny a pair should produce.
 
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Dassie rat said:
In the wild, a pair replaces its numbers if 2 of their young survive to adulthood. In zoos, the number can be much larger. Perhaps there should be a limit to the number of progeny a pair should produce.
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Since the advent of coordinated breeding programmes, zoos have come a long way with regards to limiting the number of offspring produced. Many felids breed once or twice in their lifetime compared to a few decades ago where the females were producing litters every year.

Great apes and elephants typically have artificial birth intervals and in the case of the latter, I’ve heard people saying they should be breeding more often for the sake of their reproductive health.

Rather than a limit to the number of progeny a pair produces, it’s more common to see a limit to the overall number of young produced e.g. a pair of otter may produce two litters; while their respective siblings will never breed.
 
ralph said:
Safaripark Beekse Bergen in the Netherlands has multiple species that are kept at more than one locations at the zoo. I don't really see a problem with that tho, especially since it's a large zoo.
- Chimpanzee
- Gorilla
- Hamadryas baboon
- Lion
- Cheetah
- Ring-tailed lemur
- Sitatunga
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Forgot to mention a few more
- Spotted hyena
- African wild dog
- Blackbuck
 
Lincoln Park Zoo has kept Black and White Colobus monkeys in both Regenstein African Journey as well as in Helen Brach Primate House. There was also a period I believe camels were present at both African Journey and the lower hoofstock yards.

Brookfield Zoo has often held species in Tropic World simultaneously with other areas -- most famously from the 80s to 2000s, pygmy hippopotamus and brazilian tapir were present in both buildings. This has been the case for giant anteater as well briefly, and the Asian small-clawed otters were also present in The Fragile Rainforest for many many years, too.

A number of animals have been kept in hoofstock yards while also being present in other parts of the zoo -- a lone wolf was kept there while Wolf Woods was being constructed, at one point the zoo had a forest buffalo living there separately from those held in Habitat Africa, and I am less sure of this but I think excess okapi were held there briefly.

I may be incorrect on this as well but I believe Let the Lions Roar suggests some species persisted in Primate House after Tropic World had opened.
 
JVM said:
Lincoln Park Zoo has kept Black and White Colobus monkeys in both Regenstein African Journey as well as in Helen Brach Primate House. There was also a period I believe camels were present at both African Journey and the lower hoofstock yards.

Brookfield Zoo has often held species in Tropic World simultaneously with other areas -- most famously from the 80s to 2000s, pygmy hippopotamus and brazilian tapir were present in both buildings. This has been the case for giant anteater as well briefly, and the Asian small-clawed otters were also present in The Fragile Rainforest for many many years, too.

A number of animals have been kept in hoofstock yards while also being present in other parts of the zoo -- a lone wolf was kept there while Wolf Woods was being constructed, at one point the zoo had a forest buffalo living there separately from those held in Habitat Africa, and I am less sure of this but I think excess okapi were held there briefly.

I may be incorrect on this as well but I believe Let the Lions Roar suggests some species persisted in Primate House after Tropic World had opened.
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I remember seeing Okapi in the hoofstock yards around 10 years ago.
 
At the Bronx Zoo, Asian Small-Clawed Otters can be found in both the Children's Zoo in an outdoor exhibit and in Jungleworld in an indoor exhibit.

When I last visited ZooTampa in 2022, there were two separate Red Wolf exhibits with a 5-10 minute walk and other exhibits (Manatee, Aquarium, FL Panther) between them.

The Small Mammal House at the Smithsonian National Zoo often switches animals around the building, and sometimes there can be multiple exhibits for the same species (though it changes alot, with a few exhibits remaining constant).
 
When I went to San Diego Zoo in 2011, I remember there being lions in two separate sections of the zoo.

A proper pride in the Africa area, and then a lone lioness in the one part of the zoo that didn't seem to be associated with any specific geographical region. It was just a looooong row of grottos and cages.

I believe that section of the zoo has been torn down since my visit.
 
In Beauval many species can be seen in two or more places : Gorillas, Meerkats, Pygmy Marmosets, White-faced Sakis, Grévy's Zebra, lots and lots of birds, American Alligators, Basilisks, Caiman Lizards, Poison Frogs, Stingrays...
There are many reasons for such multiple displays : management of the offspring, separation by gender, and in the case of the birds the display in regular exhibits and in the bird show.
In the past other species lived in multiple exhibits : Guereza Colobuses, Black and White Ruffed Lemurs, Hyaenas, Pumas, Lions, Sulcata and Aldabra Tortoises...
I don't take in account the species that live in several enclosures of the same complex : Elephants, Okapis, White Tigers, Koalas, Giant Pandas...
 
Wisp O' Mist said:
When I went to San Diego Zoo in 2011, I remember there being lions in two separate sections of the zoo.

A proper pride in the Africa area, and then a lone lioness in the one part of the zoo that didn't seem to be associated with any specific geographical region. It was just a looooong row of grottos and cages.

I believe that section of the zoo has been torn down since my visit.
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That seems bizarre. Maybe she was very aggressive.
 
elefante said:
That seems bizarre. Maybe she was very aggressive.
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I mean, while her exhibit was admittedly small, I do remember it having grass for her to walk on, plus a wooden structure for her to lounge in. So, it's not like she was being housed in poor conditions.

I think she was just old.
 
Wisp O' Mist said:
I mean, while her exhibit was admittedly small, I do remember it having grass for her to walk on, plus a wooden structure for her to lounge in. So, it's not like she was being housed in poor conditions.

I think she was just old.
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The lioness you saw was the last transvaal lion the zoo had at the asian passage area.
 
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