SeaWorld Abu Dhabi planned

It speaks volumes that the advertisement contains these words in capital letters: "SEAWORLD'S FIRST NO-ORCA FACILITY". The future of SeaWorld might well be in the Middle East...
 
@snowleopard: Very interesting. Thank you very much for sharing this.

Do I understand right that the entire park will be indoors? If so, I presume (and fear) that SeaWorld will get in another international conflict with the ecological movement because of the huge usage of energy this dome(s) will have.

By the way: I guess that even strong advocates of keeping cetaceans in captivity (like me) would have said that keeping orcas in Arabia (even when it would be indoors) is not a good balance between effort and returns (and I also doubt that the whales would have had better conditions than at San Diego, San Antonio or Orlando).
 
Harbor seals from SeaWorld Orlando will be going to Abu Dhabi -- does anyone have a list of other species that have been confirmed so far?
 
zoomaniac said:
@snowleopard: Very interesting. Thank you very much for sharing this.

Do I understand right that the entire park will be indoors? If so, I presume (and fear) that SeaWorld will get in another international conflict with the ecological movement because of the huge usage of energy this dome(s) will have.

By the way: I guess that even strong advocates of keeping cetaceans in captivity (like me) would have said that keeping orcas in Arabia (even when it would be indoors) is not a good balance between effort and returns (and I also doubt that the whales would have had better conditions than at San Diego, San Antonio or Orlando).
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I don't think so due to zero energy buildings now existing, that mean the building could put out more energy than it takes in and be much better for the environment. Also i'm curious as to your argument on why we should keep cetaceans in captivity. Not trying to nitpick just want a healthy argument:)
 
Do you really believe, that that amount of energy, what such a huge complex need, could be currently realized by a "zero energy building"? (No nitpicking either;)) As far as I know, the Arabian countries are still not the world leader in saving energy and I doubt that their Indoor-ski-and-winter-resorts are climate neutral now - despite the now existing ZEBs (or I have missed something).

To your question ref. cetaceans in captivity: This should be probably discussed in another, better fitting thread. However, to make it short: Because we should have them as living ambassadors and raise awarness for their kind and threat (=poluting of the oceans and hunting in general). Because we should gather experience with them and breed them to support present and future conservation efforts. Things that we do already with many other - but not as hipped and sanctified - species.
 
The Walrus and Penguins exhibits have been confirmed. Also for anyone wondering the rollercoaster in some of the images is the same type from SeaWorld San Diego.
SeaWorld Abu Dhabi
I have noticed the theme park hobbyists are much better at getting the inside scoop on what’s happening in SeaWorld right now so I will be following one of their news pages to see what I can catch.
 
Westcoastperson said:
I’m guessing either from one of their parks, even though they don’t have too many. Or they will come from China.
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I feel like that would be a very poor decision, judging by the alarming rate at which the US population has been declining (40% of the living population from 2015 are now dead). I also question them possibly importing walruses from other countries when the US is in such need with their walrus program. I'd rather see a single productive and successful population than two dysfunctional ones.

I'm hoping they surprise me, I'll happily eat my words.
 
S U N N Y said:
I don't think so due to zero energy buildings now existing, that mean the building could put out more energy than it takes in and be much better for the environment. Also i'm curious as to your argument on why we should keep cetaceans in captivity.

You have formulated the question wrongly. The correct question should be: Why should people generally keep animals in captivity? Are you actually aware of the meaning of the word "captivity" ? Apparently not. So I will try to help you to understand it.


Captivity, or being held captive, is a state wherein humans or other animals are confined to a particular space and prevented from leaving or moving freely. An example in humans is imprisonment. Prisoners of war are usually held in captivity by a government hostile to their own. Animals are held in captivity in zoos, and often as pets and as livestock. Captivity is the state of being captive, of being imprisoned or confined.[1]:260[2]:32 The word derives from the late Middle English captivitas, and the Latin captivus and capere, meaning to seize or take,[1]:260 which is also the root of the English word, "capture". In a philosophical sense, captivity may refer not simply to confinement or lack of individual freedom, but also to the nature of a relationship between the captive and the captor, characterized by a lack of self-direction and autonomy.[4]:248–49 "Although the paradigm case of captivity is a free person who is held against her will by another, the existence of captive children and animals makes it clear that the denial of autonomy as it is usually understood is not a condition for captivity".[4] In some instances, the captivity of the subject is clear, as with an animal kept in a cage at a zoo.

So mybe do you understand now, what it means for an animal, to live captive in a Zoo ? It is ****** in every way ! Nevertheless, it comes from the wild or was born in captivity.

Captivity is the same for all animals-whether orca, elephant, whale, okapi, or the Indian brown trout from the Palau Islands. Captivity means that the animals have been deprived of their freedom and have lost their right to a self-determined life - and all animals are the same, whether they live in zoo captivity, in circus captivity or in apartment captivity.

All animals in captivity are condemned to spend their lives behind gates or bars or walls-locked up for their entire lives. Captivity is imprisonment, and imprisonment is pretty ****** for anyone who has to spend their life there, isn't it? Whether it's a human being or an animal, it doesn't matter. Captivity is perceived by every animal in the same negative way as what it is...a deprivation of their rights of freedom. It is naive to believe that a whale feels it completely differently to be locked up than an elephant or a house dog. Yes, also pets live in captivity and I hardly believe that a dog likes it to live among humans and to be locked up in a 2-room apartment. Funny, dear Sunny, that you find it morally reprehensible to keep whales in captivity, but on the other hand you yourself benefit from animals in captivity - I suppose you eat meat, eggs, dairy products and wear leather? Yes, your life, like that of every human being in this world, is based in any case, no matter how you turn it, on the fact that for you animals were locked up and have to live under often barbaric conditions in captivity. Well, and you even look at caged animals in the zoo. But that's okay, right? Because-all animals are equal...but some are more equal. Isnt't it ? Caged gorillas-why not. Caged elephants, that's pretty cool-caged giraffes and rhinos- amazing. But caged whales ? Never !
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@Bib Fortuna can we please not do this here. 1) you’ve already made this argument elsewhere 2) you know the poster has already read your argument 3) It’s common knowledge that poster is also long gone so there is no point to reply to him 4) nobody wants to pick a fight here we are just trying to post the news. If you want to revive this fight do it in one of the argument against cetacean captivity thread.
 
Zooplantman said:
Whatever the arguments for or against this new facility, on the question of energy sustainability a model has been built nearby in Dubai for the Expo
Expo 2020 Dubai’s Sustainability Pavilion
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A nice project, no doubt. But we have had many of such sustainability projects in the past at many expositions, haven't we? As long as the UAE do not follow up with action and still generate most (or a huge part) of their icome with selling petrol, this has only a white-washing-taste for me.
 
zoomaniac said:
A nice project, no doubt. But we have had many of such sustainability projects in the past at many expositions, haven't we? As long as the UAE do not follow up with action and still generate most (or a huge part) of their icome with selling petrol, this has only a white-washing-taste for me.
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Well I was not making a point about the entire nation and its energy policies, only about the feasibility for a facility
 
You're right. Although we must confess that "feasibility" is a little vague here, because we don't know if we can compare the (energy) requirements for the expo pavilion and the SW dome(s) 1:1.
 
zoomaniac said:
You're right. Although we must confess that "feasibility" is a little vague here, because we don't know if we can compare the (energy) requirements for the expo pavilion and the SW dome(s) 1:1.
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And that would be the task of a "Feasibility Study" should someone want to pursue the idea
 
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Miral has revealed that construction of SeaWorld Abu Dhabi, a marine-life theme park on Yas Island is 64 percent finished and on track to complete in 2022.

SeaWorld Abu Dhabi will be home to the world’s largest aquarium with 25 million litres of water, as well as the Yas SeaWorld Research and Rescue Center.
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SeaWorld Abu Dhabi‘s expansive aquarium will house more than 68,000 marine animals, such as sharks, fish, manta rays and sea turtles.
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SeaWorld Abu Dhabi to feature world's largest aquarium
 
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