Unenlagia90
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That seems to be a good idea
Shoebills in captivity
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That seems to be a good idea
@vogelcommando: Time for an updated list?
By the way: Not only Zoo Berlin but also Tierpark Berlin has kept shoebills...(according to zootierliste until 2005)
(Thanks for this interesting post anyway)
By the way: Not only Zoo Berlin but also Tierpark Berlin has kept shoebills...(according to zootierliste until 2005)
(Thanks for this interesting post anyway)
From what I see, in programmes rearing endangered birds for release, the birds are typically hand-fed from a hand-controlled puppet which resembles the adult bird to avoid imprintation.
Surely this is not impossible for shoebill?
Surely this is not impossible for shoebill?
@zoomaniac : yes indeed, but will do this later because a lot of other things to do at the moment...
@dillotest0 : indeed this would be a good idea because in earlier days very young wild-caught birds were raised without puppets ( raised myself 2 young ones at Walsrode ) and many of these birds are inprinted on humans which isn't very usefull in attemping to breed the species. Hopefully some pairs will lay in the ( near ) future and in the case of hand-raising, puppet-raising will be attemped.
@dillotest0 : indeed this would be a good idea because in earlier days very young wild-caught birds were raised without puppets ( raised myself 2 young ones at Walsrode ) and many of these birds are inprinted on humans which isn't very usefull in attemping to breed the species. Hopefully some pairs will lay in the ( near ) future and in the case of hand-raising, puppet-raising will be attemped.
Unenlagia90
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Exmoor Zoo got a shoebill this year.
Care to provide a source/expand on this otherwise completely unsubstantiated claim?
Platypusboy
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It is actually listed on Zootierliste, without a source however.
As I have seen - however there is no official announcement from Exmoor (I've looked) and I question whether this is public information.
Sadly no... Shoebills in the US are now only at DWA and Tampa.
Thanks for that its a shame
ANYONE can update Zootierliste. No knowledge is needed.
Possibly, ask Exmoor directly...?
They do have close contacts with (and have had other animals from) Todd Dalton.
Think this might be my very first comment on Zoo Chat! I assume Zoo Chat members are regular zoo visitors, so is it not common courtesy to check with a zoo before announcing their possible new arrivals???
I think if an animal is on-exhibit but its arrival hasn't been publicly announced by the zoo, it still doesn't qualify as leaking off-record info since the animal is literally visible to anyhow who visits.
~Thylo
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Lafone
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If someone can see an animal in plain sight on a public exhibit that any visitor to the zoo can see I’d ask you what you find discourteous / lacking common courtesy in the act of posting about it? As mentioned above if the animal can be seen by any member of the public then the zoo isn’t doing much to keep it secret. I’d have thought regular zoo visitors are actually more interested to share good zoo news in a zoo friendly way than a lot of zoo visitors.
If the zoo don’t want something public (I’ve had stuff mentioned to me that it’s been stated not to put on ‘social media’ and I think this forum qualifies so I haven’t posted about it for example) then fair enough but an exhibit that’s active? Not much harm that I can see but happy to have what’s discourteous clarified.
Yes - this is all quite true, BUT if the news is only based on a non-sourced ZTL entry which the zoo has not publicised, and the 'reporter' has made no attempt to contact the zoo first; then that is QUITE a different matter, as pointed out by 'tonk girl' above
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If I’m visiting a zoo + there is anew species or a birth that’s not been announced officially, I will always ask if they would rather I held off posting till they announced it. Just feels like the right thing to do
As it stands, in this instance it does not seem that this is the case - so far, it is JUST the ZTL entry....
Lafone
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I did specifically mention that if an animal is on public display I see no reason not to post about it.
Tonk girl doesn't agree with that either (and mentions she would ask even if on public display) and that's fine but I wouldn't act any differently from a member of the public when at a zoo as I am just a regular member of the public. 'Discourteous' is pretty strong imho.
Speculation happens all the time on the forum too (people asking in great detail about theoretical moves, habits and circumstances of elephants or gorillas or what have you, to a level far and away beyond common interest) so the line appears to be pretty flexible.
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Yes, blatant speculation does seem to have crept in with much tedious detail requested by certain posters about elephants and gorillas in particular; detail which no-one on here is likely to have any access to. Otherwise this all deviates from the original point succinctly summed up by 'Great Argus' in two posts easily found, if you simply scroll up a little.