biggest_dreamer
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It is interesting that while many zoo nerds seem to love ungulates, as far as the general public is concerned, if it's not a zebra, giraffe, rhino, hippo, or perhaps bison, it may as well not even be there.
I only saw Blue Duikers at two European zoos and the first was Duisburg Zoo (Germany).
I went on long European and Asian zoo trips and saw next to zero duikers anywhere.
Surely you would have seen the blues at Colchester? They had a sizeable group until a couple of years ago.A species I've yet to see at all
Surely you would have seen the blues at Colchester? They had a sizeable group until a couple of years ago.
I remember when I first started working in zoos as a teen, a keeper told me that hoofstock were an acquired taste (I presume she did not mean that literally). At a superficial glance, they're all either deer, goats, or cows. Once you really dive deep into them, there's such a diversity of sizes, shapes, behaviors, etc that are lost on a casual visitor - though I suspect you could probably say that about a lot of other taxa as well.
For me, a big part of the appeal of hoofstock is that they are usually up and about doing something, even if its "only" grazing, and even when they are resting, they are at least awake and alert. The fact that most species are social also means that you can house groups, which generally increases the likelihood of seeing active animals doing something. The design of their enclosures means that you usually (again, species dependent) get an open, unobstructed view without glass or mesh. It can be easier to create a truly beautiful hoofstock habitat, and when you make it a mixed species panorama, it can be quite spectacular.
There's also a lot less welfare baggage around ungulates than there is around primates, carnivores, or cetaceans, and I've seen far fewer truly bad ungulate exhibits than i have primate or carnivore exhibits..
Apologies for the late response, as I've just been catching up on this thread today. Akron now has Cinerous Vulture in the old Tahr exhibit, but they have been discussing upcoming Snow Leopard exhibit renovations so I wonder if the leopard will move into that side of the exhibit as well.When I visited Akron Zoo (USA) in 2010, there was the Legends of the Wild zone and side-by-side exhibits for Snow Leopard and Himalayan Tahr. The viewing was a bit awkward and the tahr are no longer at the zoo. What's in their spot now?
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And in Australia, we have neither duikers nor muntjacWhy so few duikers in zoos? My personal opinion is that muntjacs have more than taken over around the world. If you recall, I've been to 101 zoos with muntjacs (78 Reeves’s, 21 Southern Red, 4 Northern Red - two zoos with multiple species) and while one animal is a deer and the other is an antelope, honestly from a visitor's perspective I'd imagine that muntjacs and duikers are all one and the same.![]()
Indeed, despite the name, "common" duikers are seldom seen in zoos. I've seen eight duiker species (including the rarely seen zebra duiker and Jentink’s duiker) but I've only ever seen common duiker once, in Edinburgh Zoo, about forty years ago. (Incidentally, Edinburgh Zoo's common duiker is not listed on ZooTierListe.)Yet another duiker species that is virtually impossible to find in captivity outside of some African zoos, the Common Duiker is an animal I've only seen at one zoo.
I've definitely gained a deeper appreciation for hooved mammals by tackling this epic, year-long thread, although in truth I've always loved hooved mammals due to my early years of visiting the Alberta Game Farm (later known as Polar Park) in Edmonton, Alberta. It was the Berlin Tierpark of North America, with a staggering collection of ungulates. However, it's really rewarding to hear from others about how they too love mammals and particularly those with hooves. I'd still vote for primates as my #1 type of mammal as they are incredibly active and diverse, but for sure both carnivores and ungulates have their mega-fans and I've seen that in action on this thread.
What will I do every morning before work, from 5:30 a.m. to sometimes 7:00 a.m., once I'm finished this thing?We're not done yet, but today I will discuss SEVEN species and finish off Bovidae. Phew!
Red-flanked Duikers have been phased out of maybe half the zoos I've seen them at over the years, but they've also been picked up by a number of other zoos across America. Zootierliste has 0 zoos in Australia, Asia or Europe with this species. Luckily for me, I've had multiple visits to 7 out of the 9 zoos where I've seen Red-flanked Duikers, as remember I only list the first time I have seen the species and some of these zoos I've toured on a number of occasions.
I've seen Red-flanked Duikers at 9 zoos:
1- San Diego Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2006
2- San Diego Zoo Safari Park (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2006
3- Woodland Park Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2008
4- Los Angeles Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2008
5- Oregon Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2010
6- Kansas City Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2010
7- Saint Louis Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2010
8- Dallas Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2010
9- Charles Paddock Zoo (USA) – Red-flanked Duiker – 2011
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Black Duikers are almost extinct in captivity anywhere, with Zootierliste only having Los Angeles and Miami currently with the species. Is there really nowhere else? I'm extremely fortunate to have seen this species at all, let alone at 5 different zoos in the past. You folks who live near San Diego perhaps now have an idea of just how lucky you've been as the two big San Diego parks feature a LOT in the ungulate section of this thread.
I've seen Black Duikers at 5 zoos:
1- San Diego Zoo (USA) – Black Duiker – 2006
2- San Diego Zoo Safari Park (USA) – Black Duiker – 2006
3- Los Angeles Zoo (USA) – Black Duiker – 2008
4- Mountain View Conservation Centre (Canada) – Black Duiker – 2008
5- Zoo Miami (USA) – Black Duiker – 2008
AND...
The two zoos where I've seen Bay Duikers are the same two zoos that still have the species, according to Zootierliste. These guys must be on the precipice of extinction in zoos worldwide, so enjoy them while you can!
I've seen Bay Duikers at 2 zoos:
1- ZooTampa at Lowry Park (USA) – Bay Duiker – 2012
2- Ellen Trout Zoo (USA) – Bay Duiker – 2015
AND...
Both times I've seen Natal Red Duikers have been in Europe and in both instances the animals have been mixed with Okapi.
I've seen Natal Red Duikers at 2 zoos:
1- Antwerp Zoo (Belgium) – Natal Red Duiker – 2019
2- Berlin Zoo (Germany) – Natal Red Duiker – 2019
AND...
Yet another duiker species that is virtually impossible to find in captivity outside of some African zoos, the Common Duiker is an animal I've only seen at one zoo. Also called the Grey/Gray Duiker or Bush Duiker, they were breeding and in a couple of exhibits at San Diego Zoo in 2006 but are long gone now.
I've seen Common Duikers at 1 zoo:
1- San Diego Zoo (USA) – Common Duiker – 2006
AND...
One of my holy grail animals, even though I've never been a species collector zoo nerd guy, is the Jentink's Duiker. I can recall eagerly anticipating seeing 'Gordo', the last of his kind in a zoo in Texas far away from every other major facility. Loads of zoo nerds had the same idea, as if you glance through the Gladys Porter Zoo's gallery on this site you will see 26 photos just of a single duiker or his exhibit. It was a pilgrimage I was happy to make and one of the very few times in my life that I was deliberating looking forward to seeing an individual animal. I've always been one to rack up the zoo count, but not until this year did I amass any lifetime species lists whatsoever.
I've seen a single Jentink's Duiker at 1 zoo:
1- Gladys Porter Zoo (USA) – Jentink’s Duiker – 2010
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My 7th duiker of this post, and 9th duiker overall (Yellow-backed and Blue were analyzed in previous days) is the Maxwell's Duiker. I saw this species in the Congo Gorilla Forest area of the Bronx Zoo (USA).
I've seen Maxwell's Duikers at 1 zoo:
1- Bronx Zoo (USA) – Maxwell’s Duiker – 2008
Long-time San Diego Zoo (USA) visitors might recall walking over Steenbok and Red-flanked Duikers mixed together up near the top of the zoo near the Skyfari ride.
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The exact same combination has also been on display at San Diego Zoo Safari Park (USA) this year!
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@Julio C Castro
You can see a Red-flanked Duiker in my photo taken at Woodland Park Zoo (USA). The duikers were combined with Colobus Monkeys for years, but were eventually phased out and have never returned.
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There's loads of images of Red-flanked Duikers at Los Angeles Zoo (USA) in the ZooChat gallery, including this one with a juvenile with its mouth open. L.A. has had a lot of breeding success with this species over the years.
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@Blackduiker
Just like Woodland Park, Oregon Zoo (USA) has phased out Red-flanked Duikers. On my first few visits to the Oregon Zoo, a highlight was the walk-through wetland aviary with a variety of birds and a number of Red-flanked Duikers. There's 6 images of the duikers in the ZooChat gallery and all the photos were taken by me on a single visit in 2010 and so the duikers likely departed quite a number of years ago.
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You can see a Red-flanked Duiker (on the right) in my photo from Kansas City Zoo (USA) in 2010. There's an 'African' themed hut as an animal shelter. Kansas City has since phased out these duikers.
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Yet another American zoo that has phased out Red-flanked Duikers, Saint Louis Zoo (USA) had duikers with Okapi and Blue Cranes when I first visited in 2010, and going back in 2014 I saw the duikers with Nyala and Crowned Cranes. Long live Red Rocks!
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An odd, rocky little exhibit for Red-flanked Duikers could be found at Dallas Zoo (USA) via the now defunct monorail ride. I seem to remember it being next to the Caracal exhibit.
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And, lastly, there's Charles Paddock Zoo (USA), which had Red-flanked Duikers in a simple yet effective chain-link yard in 2011.
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As for Black Duikers, seeing them at San Diego Zoo (USA) was relatively easy during my first few visits to the park. You can see a Black Duiker in the background near an Okapi and these two species shared an exhibit in the Ituri Forest zone.
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At San Diego Zoo Safari Park (USA), Black Duikers had their own exhibit in Mombasa Lagoon and I have a photo of it in the gallery. Here's a stunning portrait image of the species at the safari park:
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@geomorph
Just like with Red-flanked Duikers, Los Angeles Zoo (USA) has loads of images of Black Duikers in the ZooChat gallery. The species has been kept with Okapi in the past, and also in one of those infamous 'roundhouses' with turacos in more recent years. There's even some nursery paddock photos of young Black Duikers with both Red-flanked Duikers and Gerenuk babies. Check out this 2009 image of 3 genuine rarities:
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@Blackduiker (totally appropriate!)
Zoo Miami (USA) still has Black Duikers in its collection, apparently one of only TWO zoos on the planet. Wow!
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@Ituri
As for Bay Duikers, I saw the species for the first time by taking the Safari Ride at ZooTampa at Lowry Park (USA) in 2012. The species has shared space with a long list of other ungulates and birds at this zoo over the years.
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@red river hog
I saw a Bay Duiker sharing an exhibit with Crowned Cranes at the rather obscure Ellen Trout Zoo (USA) in 2015.
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As for Natal Red Duikers, I have seen them at least twice for sure. Here's another example of a duiker species sharing space with Okapi, this time at Antwerp Zoo (Belgium).
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@KevinB
And, of course, Berlin Zoo (Germany) has had Natal Red Duikers in with Okapi as well. It's a nice contrast at many zoos to have Okapi with a smaller species.
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@Mo Hassan
As for Common Duikers, it's only been San Diego Zoo (USA) for me and probably only on my first (and maybe) second visits in 2006 and 2008. Whatever happened to these guys? My guess is that there simply wasn't enough zoos to take them on back in the day, or perhaps inbreeding was occurring.
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@Zebraduiker
As for Jentink's Duiker, I was able to lean over a wall and snap this image of 'Gordo', the last remaining captive Jentink's Duiker, in 2010 at Gladys Porter Zoo (USA). What a day that was! This duiker, Gaur, Bornean Bearded Pigs, Bushbuck, several Gorillas literally doing cannonballs into their water-filled moat...ahhh the memories.
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As for Maxwell's Duikers, I also saw this species only once and it was at the Bronx Zoo (USA). They weren't difficult to spot and now I look back and wish that I had lingered longer because in 2008 I would have been more enamoured with the Colobus Monkeys that shared the same exhibit.
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@Baldur
Family Bovidae: 89 total species (done!)
American Bison - 104 zoos
Bongo - 58 zoos
Common Eland - 58 zoos
Greater Kudu - 51 zoos
Blue Wildebeest - 47 zoos
Blackbuck - 45 zoos
Scimitar-horned Oryx - 43 zoos
Waterbuck - 43 zoos
Aoudad - 40 zoos
Nilgai - 40 zoos
Impala - 38 zoos
Addax - 36 zoos
Dama Gazelle - 36 zoos
Bontebok - 33 zoos
Sable Antelope - 32 zoos
Sitatunga - 29 zoos
Banteng - 27 zoos
Bighorn Sheep - 26 zoos
Yak - 26 zoos
Nyala - 25 zoos
Takin - 23 zoos
Mouflon - 22 zoos
Southern Lechwe - 22 zoos
Cape Buffalo - 21 zoos (including 7 with African Forest Buffalo)
Kirk's Dik-dik - 21 zoos
Yellow-backed Duiker - 21 zoos
Gemsbok - 20 zoos
Gerenuk - 19 zoos
Lowland Anoa - 18 zoos
Thomson's Gazelle - 18 zoos
Asian Water Buffalo - 17 zoos
Arabian Oryx - 16 zoos
Blue Duiker - 16 zoos
Gaur - 16 zoos
Lesser Kudu - 16 zoos
Muskox - 16 zoos
Rocky Mountain Goat - 16 zoos
Springbok - 16 zoos
Wisent - 15 zoos
Markhor - 14 zoos
Roan Antelope - 14 zoos
Alpine Ibex - 13 zoos
Dall Sheep - 13 zoos
Klipspringer - 13 zoos
Nile Lechwe - 12 zoos
Grant's Gazelle - 11 zoos
Speke's Gazelle - 11 zoos
Beisa Oryx - 10 zoos
Chinese Goral - 10 zoos
Himalayan Tahr - 10 zoos
Nubian Ibex - 9 zoos
Red-flanked Duiker - 9 zoos
Guenther's Dik-dik - 7 zoos
Slender-horned Gazelle - 7 zoos
Cuvier's Gazelle - 6 zoos
Black Duiker - 5 zoos
Giant Eland - 5 zoos
Goitered Gazelle - 5 zoos
Siberian Ibex - 5 zoos
Soemmerring's Gazelle - 5 zoos
West Caucasian Tur - 5 zoos
Black Wildebeest - 4 zoos
Japanese Serow - 4 zoos
Mainland Serow - 4 zoos
Northern Chamois - 4 zoos
Urial - 4 zoos
Bharal - 3 zoos
Steenbok - 3 zoos
Bay Duiker - 2 zoos
Cavendish's Dik-dik - 2 zoos
Dorcas Gazelle - 2 zoos
Mountain Anoa - 2 zoos
Natal Red Duiker - 2 zoos
Royal Antelope - 2 zoos
Sand Gazelle - 2 zoos
Argali - 1 zoo (Berlin Tierpark - Germany)
Burmese Goral - 1 zoo (Chiang Mai Night Safari - Thailand)
Common Duiker - 1 zoo (San Diego Zoo - USA)
Hartebeest - 1 zoo (Alberta Game Farm/Polar Park - Canada)
Iberian Ibex - 1 zoo (San Diego Zoo - USA)
Jentink's Duiker - 1 zoo (Gladys Porter Zoo - USA)
Kob - 1 zoo (San Diego Zoo Safari Park - USA)
Maxwell's Duiker - 1 zoo (Bronx Zoo - USA)
Mountain Reedbuck - 1 zoo (Berlin Tierpark - Germany)
Northern Bushbuck - 1 zoo (Gladys Porter Zoo - USA)
Red-fronted Gazelle - 1 zoo (San Diego Zoo Safari Park - USA)
Rhebok - 1 zoo (San Diego Zoo - USA)
Saiga - 1 zoo (Alberta Game Farm/Polar Park - Canada)
Topi - 1 zoo (San Antonio Zoo - USA)
Bonus species: (similar to my New Guinea Singing Dog example)
Gayal - 2 zoos