Parque de la Naturaleza de Cabarceno Somali wild ass

jelle said:
Al Wabra in Qatar have a group of 3.6 (derived from EEP stock).
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I saw they lost their original stallion who was from somewhere different to the rest of the group. They've had to use the younger (more related?) stallion since he died.
 
grantsmb said:
I saw they lost their original stallion who was from somewhere different to the rest of the group. They've had to use the younger (more related?) stallion since he died.
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The original male was from Berlin Tierpark (Somalo). All other individuals were Usti born and bred. Somali may have been the sire for the 2004 foal (the group arriving in 2003). Total imports were 2.4.

The 2006 foals are from the new (and related) stallion Edmond and the herd has since grown to 3.6 wild ass.

Breeding group:
M Edmond (age: ?)
F Astra (age: 1990)
F Mona (age: 1995)
F (not named)
F Geralda (age: 2002)

Al Wabra births:
F Ahiya (born 2004 - mother Mona)
M Arun (born 9/7/2006 - mother Geralda)
F Asmara (born 5/9/2006 - mother Astra)
M Ansari (born 4/6/2007 - mother Mona)

The word was that 3 more mares were pregnant and due this year. That would have to be the 2004 mare Ahiya, the unnamed female and mysteriously one of the 2 mares to have given birth during mid 2006 (equids have gestation lenghts of 13 months).

Encouragingly, there is also talk of a new stallion .. and need for new bloodlines.

Perhaps there is a chance that the Al Wabra group will become once more integral to the EEP (having recently joined as an Associate member).
 
White Oak Conservation Center holds 0.4 Somalis. They arrived fall of 2007 from SDWAP. Only SDWAP, St Louis, Oklahoma City and White Oak hold Somalis in the US. Canyon Colorado Equid Sanctuary also hold them, but the facility is closing and dispersing its collection.
 
CCES is a very private facility and few people know about it even in the US. They even house equids unrelated to those in AZA zoos. According to the N American 2007 Asian Wild Ass Studbook they housed 1.0 Kiang, 18.21 Onager, and 168.176 Kulan - the only holder of Kulan in N America. They also have P' Horses, Hartmann's Mtn Zebra, Grevy's Zebra, and Somali Wild Ass.
 
okapikpr said:
CCES is a very private facility and few people know about it even in the US. They even house equids unrelated to those in AZA zoos. According to the N American 2007 Asian Wild Ass Studbook they housed 1.0 Kiang, 18.21 Onager, and 168.176 Kulan - the only holder of Kulan in N America. They also have P' Horses, Hartmann's Mtn Zebra, Grevy's Zebra, and Somali Wild Ass.
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CCES can be sourced on the web, I just cannot remember the URL.


okapikpr,

It is sad that this wonderful equid facility is closing down. They held a considerable gene pool of endangered equids and were represented on IUCN specialist group. Do you know where their onager and kulan will be relocated? Which facilities are taking in the onager and kulan?
 
I don't think any Nubian Wild Asses were seen in captivity or in the wild in recent decades. It is considered extinct.

Actually, even status of Nubian Wild Ass as subspecies is somewhat dubious. Differences are slight and variability of Somali subspecies is not fully known. Nobody ever did good molecular research on donkeys/asses, and this is potentially interesting. There are also wild asses in Sahel of uncertain provenance (feral/new native form), there are claims that extinct European Ass Equus hydruntinus was domesticated and mixed in Mediterranean donkey blood...
 
I just talked with someone claiming to have seen Nubian wild asses in Eritrea; might be true.

However, I agree with You in regard to the unclear status of the African Wild asses (also due the mentioned aspect of hybridisation with Somalian/ domestic donkey).

Catskill, USA, might have had some (from breedstocks at Munich & Rome Zoo) specimens till the 1990s.
 
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I'm a private individual and i try to keep up with these kinds of animals. I have seen the Nubian Wild Asses from Catskill, they were moved to another private facility and are doing great. I'm not sure about the genetic diversity in those animals but they are all healthy anways. As for CCES it is almost unbelievable what has happened to the collection that Bill Gruenerwald spent his life building. Quite a few have ended up at San Diego but nearly all of the Hartmann's, Grevys, Kulans, P-horses have ended up with one facility and are being dispearced througout the country. Most of these places have no idea what a Kulan is and i've been told quite a few time the males were so hard to handle they were shot. I tried to acquire a great deal of these animals but large amounts of $$$ are the only thing on their minds.
 
Sun Wukong said:
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The Stadt Haag Zoo (Austria) claims to keep Nubian wild asses-or at least mixed animals.
Nubischer Esel: Tierpark Haag
I personally doubt that, but I'm pretty sure that some of the Somalin wild asses in zoos have "Nubian blood", if so to speak.
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What exactly do you think the photos show? Are they a wild ass /donkey cross? They look similar to domestic donkeys to me, but taller and slimmer. The black stripe on the shoulders is thick like a Donkey's, not pencil thin as in most wild Asses( I've seen a photo of the 'Nubian' asses at Catskill and they don't seem to have a shoulder stripe at all.) Rather mysterious.
 
The US population of Somali Wild Ass is expanding this year with the addition of many institutions. The following institutions will be holding SWA in the next year (*new holder):

White Oak Conservation Center
CRC - Front Royal, VA*
Bronx Zoo*
Shadow Nursery (Winchester, TN)
St Louis Zoo
Los Angeles Zoo*
SDWAP


The Oklahoma City Zoo will no longer be holding SWA (due to Asia construction?) and are sending them to other zoos.
 
okapikpr said:
The US population of Somali Wild Ass is expanding this year with the addition of many institutions. The following institutions will be holding SWA in the next year (*new holder):

White Oak Conservation Center
CRC - Front Royal, VA*
Bronx Zoo*
Shadow Nursery (Winchester, TN)
St Louis Zoo
Los Angeles Zoo*
SDWAP


The Oklahoma City Zoo will no longer be holding SWA (due to Asia construction?) and are sending them to other zoos.
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Cool! Do you know from where LA will be getting theirs and how many?
 
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