Some questions

LizardInsanity

LizardInsanity

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Has anyone ever kept Goliath Frogs in a zoo setting?I know they are kept in captivity.General Exotics has them for 25 dollars which I honestly do not believe.

Secondly, has anyone ever kept Labord's Chameleons?They hatch in November,Breed in January,and Die a few days after.I figured while the eggs are incubating,Phelsuma spp. could replace them.
 
No specimens are kept right now according to ISIS and Zootierliste.

I don't really know, but I think I've heard somewhere that keeping goliath frogs in captivity has been unsuccesful so far. But unless the goliath frogs you know of are really not goliath frogs or imported illegally, one would think they are to be found somewhere in captivity. Maybe in a native African collection?
 
I saw a picture on here of a goliath frog terrarium after I posted this.

Yeah I doubt they are even goliath frogs.For 25 dollars?Yeah right
 
'an adult goliath frog has sold for as much as $3,000 in America, although the collecting frenzy now seems to have abated'

'A 1991 survey found goliath frogs in only two U.S. zoos.'

'Goliath frogs don't breed or survive well in captivity.'

Quotes from page about goliath frogs by American Museum of Natural History AMNH - Goliath Frog

Lots of Furcifer chameleons (the genus that include Labord's) have been kept at some time but for most species there has been little or no captive breeding success. The little succes that has been has almost entirely been by private keepers because chameleons tend to stress very easily making it even harder to keep them in a zoo. All chameleons from Madagasar including Furcifer are on CITES appendix II or I. CITES permission is only granted for a handful of species (not including Labord's) and you can't legally export any of the other from Madagascar or import them into any country that participate in CITES (=most countries). There is some illegal smuggling going on from Madagascar and in that way you can sometimes see unusual species on sale in USA or Europe. Until the captive breeding requirements are figured out for more of the longer-lived and relatively common relatives I don't think the very short-lived and threatened Labord's belong in captivity. You just don't get enough time to experiment with what is right and what is wrong before they die.
 
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