South Lakes Wild Animal Park South Lakes discussion thread

bigcat speciali said:
Alas this picture was taken in Africa and not within South Lakes, even if it was, following correct protocol and procedures of import and quarantine, ear tags etc, then what we have is a fool who loves his ego.
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what is this embolded bit even supposed to mean? It is a nonsensical post. The photo was likely taken in Africa, but what does that have to do with "correct protocol and procedures of import and quarantine, ear tags etc" for the animals which are at South Lakes?? And what does either have to do with "what we have is a fool who loves his ego"??

bigcat speciali said:
The picture taken in Africa and which is copyrighted to someone else and not South Lakes. I am not suggesting anything just that this picture was taken in Africa and not within South Lakes.
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as taun says, you have given no evidence that you know who the copyright holder is, or who took the photo. Stop your wild leaps in logic. And you are suggesting a lot of things (see your post I quoted above)!

bigcat speciali said:
It is a stock photo and not Dave Gill's. One thing to say you have animal in stock and will be out and about in due course. It is another thing altogether referring to a stock picture without giving credit, it is also false advertising under advertisment law, saying and showing that you have something, with a picture that differs to what is actually there.
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I had a quick flick through Google Images and could not see this photo. How do you know it is a stock photo? Some sort of evidence of your claims would help you out quite a bit for your accusations. And, um, he does have nyala at South Lakes, so... yeah.
 
There seems to be a lot of David Gill bashing on here, yes he is a man with many, many faults, but need we be so picky as to berate him for simply getting a picture off google to use to show people an animal now at the zoo? Don't be so petty, this forum should be used to talk about the zoo, not being ridiculous over a photograph used
 
I find it funny that you all complain about Mr gill yet you are very happy to visit his zoo:rolleyes:


Mr gill has built (in my opinion) an amazing zoo that i personally think is a pleasure to walk round.(even if a keeper has died)
 
banham.tiger said:
I find it funny that you all complain about Mr gill yet you are very happy to visit his zoo:rolleyes:
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On the contrary, it is the very fact that some of us have visited the collection in question that allows us to have a say on the matter :p as it is a good rule of thumb that even if a collection is poor, in order to comment with some degree of authority it is best to have seen the collection in person. As such, someone that has visited SLWAP by no means is hypocritical if they then criticise the collection - whilst individuals who blindly defend a collection they have never visited may well be.

As for myself, I have visited the collection, and have little desire to visit again in a hurry :p
 
banham.tiger said:
I find it funny that you all complain about Mr gill yet you are very happy to visit his zoo:rolleyes:
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I have never visited South Lakes and so I have never commented about Mr Gill. Moreover I will never visit South Lakes until I am satisfied that it is worth my support, which is why I will continue to follow this thread with interest but without contributing anything more.

Alan
 
bigcat speciali said:
An accident waiting to happen... https://www.facebook.com/SouthLakes...0417692336762/626811480697378/?type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205621702720528&set=p.10205621702720528&type=1&theater
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You might think so, but I can't recall hearing of any serious incidents in all the (ten plus?) years they've been operating the walk-through.

And in exchange for the risk levels a lot of people have had their own little "magical" experiences.
 
one would hope that bigcat speciali never visits Australia. He might have a nervous breakdown with all the lethal emus and kangaroos used in the walk-throughs there.
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Chlidonias said:
He might have a nervous breakdown with all the lethal emus and kangaroos used in the walk-throughs there.
:rolleyes:
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I am not sure Emus are completely harmless? Was watching a T.V. Nat. His. prog. the other evening and the presenter(a scholarly type) was in a pen in an Australian Wildlife Park with some emus and the keeper had a watchful eye on them- I don't think it was hyped up for the camera particularly as it was not that sort of programme.

I know Kangaroos are generally regarded as perfectly safe in walkthroughs also, but the claws on a big kangaroo are pretty lethal, potentially it would only take a scratch from them to injure a child if the Kangaroo had a difference of opinion over something- like withheld food. So I think BCS has a point, even if its a minor one.
 
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well really any walk-through is "an accident waiting to happen" as bigcat speciali put it, no matter whether it is lemurs, kangaroos or even sheep - heck, I've still got scars from a rooster attack when I was about two years old (physical, not mental ;)).

There are at least dozens of emu-kangaroo walk-throughs in Australia and elsewhere, so while both animals obviously can cause injury this exhibit-type is (unlike some others) hardly unique to South Lakes, and I think we all well know bigcat speciali's post had very little to do with reality and very much to do with his vendetta issues.
 
Chlidonias said:
so while both animals obviously can cause injury this exhibit-type is (unlike some others) hardly unique to South Lakes, and I think we all well know bigcat speciali's post had very little to do with reality and very much to do with his vendetta issues.
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I've been in a few walkthoughs in Australia and Tasmania in the past- as you are no doubt aware, they are mainly just open paddocks you can enter and wander around unsupervised. South Lakes with its past Australian connection, has no doubt copied the concept by choosing these species, though being a UK Zoo/park they probably have staff monitoring the area all the time.

Putting aside BCS's personal agenda, I think its fair to say there is some small element of danger in any Kangaroo/Emu set-up, particularly for very small children. Sometimes these issues just aren't realised until an accident, however minor, actually happens. We have even had 'accidents' (e.g. a scratched face) with Lemurs too. For Joe Public, even a scratch on a child is a big deal.
 
Aside from any "agenda" that I have regarding Dave Gill and his Zoo/Park, which I may add, there are many others who have greater negative opinions and views than myself of this person and place. Having visited other collections including some within Australia, the practices and methods used, health and safety etc differ to each collection and area. However, South Lakes/Dave Gill has as we all know, a very vocal and physical ego which he stresses upon others. His zoo/park is not unique, even though he portrays himself as some God who has survived greater than his "nine lives" and has a knowledge of everything. In reality, such exhibits can and do function well as long as procedures, rules and compliance of common sense is approached. I do agree with Pertinax, albeit without any "personal agenda":
I've been in a few walkthoughs in Australia and Tasmania in the past- as you are no doubt aware, they are mainly just open paddocks you can enter and wander around unsupervised. South Lakes with its past Australian connection, has no doubt copied the concept by choosing these species, though being a UK Zoo/park they probably have staff monitoring the area all the time.

Putting aside BCS's personal agenda, I think its fair to say there is some small element of danger in any Kangaroo/Emu set-up, particularly for very small children. Sometimes these issues just aren't realised until an accident, however minor, actually happens. We have even had 'accidents' (e.g. a scratched face) with Lemurs too. For Joe Public, even a scratch on a child is a big deal.
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bigcat speciali said:
Aside from any "agenda" that I have regarding Dave Gill and his Zoo/Park, which I may add, there are many others who have greater negative opinions and views than myself of this person and place. Having visited other collections including some within Australia, the practices and methods used, health and safety etc differ to each collection and area. However, South Lakes/Dave Gill has as well all know a very vocal and physical ego which he stresses upon others. His zoo/park is not unique, even though he portrays himself as some God who has survived greater than his "nine lives" and has a knowledge of everything. In reality, such exhibits can and do function well as long as procedures, rules and compliance of common sense is approached. I do agree with Pertinax, albeit without any "personal agenda":
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now this is a well-structured post which I am happy to agree with you on. As I have said before, it is not your negative opinion of the zoo or David Gill himself which I have an issue with (it is one I and many others share), it is the way you portray it. If you can keep on making such posts which have been thought through, and refrain from jumping on meaningless public relation fluff just for the sake of it, then I wouldn't be harping all the time. And it would help keep the threads from turning sour.

:)
 
Chlidonias said:
now this is a well-structured post which I am happy to agree with you on.

:)
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Well structured, I don't think so, just a load of silly and unsubstantiated tosh. It is not a good idea for a respected and sensible contributer to give these anti zoo flat earth views any encouragement.
My view on all of the nonsense being written about this Zoo is that there is an embittered clique lining up to support each other at all costs, even when the criticisms are as ridiculous as some of this latest batch. Dangerous wallabys, emus and lemurs indeed lol. The expression, "grow a pair" comes to mind.
These S.L. threads are as funny as the comedy show, "little Britain", its the sheer pomposity and silliness. How could anyone, other than a fringe group take it seriously, please can someone tell me if "its all a big wind up."
I hope this post is not deleted as there is a strong need for some sanity and balance here, and also if I am mobbed by the FE men,it assures me of my stance and I am well pleased.
 
dublinlion said:
I hope this post is not deleted as there is a strong need for some sanity and balance here, and also if I am mobbed by the FE men,it assures me of my stance and I am well pleased.
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Yes, yes there is...





By the way, saying that if anyone posts in disagreement to you, it just proves you point, does not prove your point:p

~Thylo:cool:
 
@tylo, Are you back to prove my point then, or are you looking for brownie points lol.?

The funny thing here is, it was your own highly charged attacks on this establishment for the amusement of the "playground critics" which initially drew me to my current stance.
I would add that I think that your posts on other threads always appear to be well informed and humorous, so I am surprised that you have such bigoted views on S.L.s. which can only be based on 2nd. hand information from a very entrenched group.
 
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