Spanish zoo advice

sooty mangabey

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I'm contemplating a Spanish zoo trip this summer, and would appreciate advice from those who know their way around some of these zoos...

1. Is Madrid Zoo a 'more-than-one-day' zoo, or will a good day be enough to see it all?
2. is Faunia worth going to see?
3. Does anything remain of the 'old' Valencia zoo?
4. Are there any other zoos that can be seen by public transport within a couple of hours of Valencia?
5. Is Valencia Bioparc a zoo that needs two days to see it fully?

I appreciate that some of these questions are pretty subjective, but I'd be grateful for any thoughts...

Thanks

John
 
1. You can see Madrid Zoo in one day.
2. I visited Faunia a lot of years ago, when had other name, so I can say if now its worth or not. It's small and very expensive, but contains some interesting species.
3./4. KEEPER could help you with these questions, but in 3-4h you can reach Barcelona and visit their zoo, that have a good train connection.
5. Bioparc is a small zoo ( ¿8 ha? ) and can be seen in a half day
 
The old zoo in Valencia it´s totally closed (and sadly) abandoned.
Terra Natura (Benidorm) Alicante it´s from 1,5 h. aprox. driving from Valencia. Or in public bus.Mundomar in Benidorm too , it´s mainly a dolphinarium with sea lions and ring tailed lemurs ans some more species like bats in a fake-cave.
 
- One day is enough for Madrid zoo
- If you need 2 days iin bioparc Valencia depends on your interest: the zoo itself is small and one day is enough. If you are however interested in fotography of elephants, apes and monkeys, there is lots to see and you can easily spend two days there. They have 2 herds of elephants, the young group consist of 6 young animals and sometimes the young bull also joins them and then you can spend hours alone on observing and fotografing the elephants. There are also 2 gorilla groups and interesting species of monkeys (drills, guenons).
- In Valencia itself, there is the L'Oceanografic, with marine mammals, birds and an aquarium. The walros and belugas are really rare. The enclosures are very small, but it`s very interesting to see nevertheless.
- Terra Natura (1,5 hours away by bus) is well worth a visit.
- Barcelona is 3 hours from Valencia by train and also worth a visit.
 
If you're a proper zoo nerd (which I am) a you might like to visit the old Valencia zoo site, it's In the Jardines del Real. The entrance in fact, is pretty much how it was the, the sign for the zoo sits over the shuttered entrance. The site is surrounded by a fence which is covered in creepers, you can see through the vegetation at some points. The zoo has been pretty much razed to the ground, you can still see the hippo enclosure though. You will get to see how small the zoo was and in this tiny space you have remember that chimps, brown bear, lions, tiger, giraffe,zebra, hippo and rhino where kept. In fact one of the rhinos is now housed at the Bio-park (it's the one that walks around in circles). Also in this park are many feral parakeets.
 
Madrid zoo aquarium is for one day, but if you go on sunday arrive early.I also like faunia.
Barcelona is well worth a visit,the city is lovely.You can visit the zoo,with the amazing reptile house and also the barcelona aquarium which has interesting species like the ocean sunfish. Again,if you go on sunday arrive early at either location.
 
Barcelona Zoo is crowded on weekends, so try to avoid going on Saturday or Sunday, specially if it's a sunny day. There are a lot of families that go to the zoo the weekends. My advice is to go to the Terrarium before 11:00 because later there are a lot of people in this building and is a little stressful, but this only happends on weekends.

You can also visit the CosmoCaixa museum, that have many living animals (include an underwater vision for capybaras) and the entrance is cheap (now there are an exhibition of dinosaurs with many skeletons of Gobi desert dinosaurs: Two awesome tarbosaurus, protoceratops, gallimimus, anserimimus, etc...)
I think that the sunfish of the Aquarium died...
 
I think that the sunfish of the Aquarium died...

Wow, all of them? They had 4 or 5 or something when i was there in... 2008 I think?

Back then they also had both species of true sea-dragons (leafy and weedy), together with the nautilus the main reasons why I enjoyed this over-priced aquarium nonetheless :)

Edit: According to Zootierliste Barcelona Aquarium still hold Sunfish, but they also sent at least 2 away to an aquarium in Denmark. That would explain some of the demise of numbers...
 
Thank you for the various bits of advice which came in here. in the end, I had a day each in the zoo and aquarium in Valencia, today at Madrid Zoo, tomorrow at Faunia. All very interesting, though none is really my ´thing´. I was surprised by how shabby Madrid zoo looked; maybe this was just in comparison to the perfect pristene presentation of Valencai Bioparc, where not an inch of fake rock, not a blade of manicured grass, is out of place (even if the signs for what´s in each enclosure are not always as accurate as they might be).

The other thing that has surprised me is how expensive each is to enter: €20 or more at each place, which, while for me it is money well spent (I am there all day, of course) means that it is not a cheap day out for a family. This may explain why none of the places - not even the Valencia aquarium - has been exactly packed with visitors.
 
@Sooty: Are you planning on typing up any extensive reviews of the Spanish zoos and aquariums that you visited? Also, isn't the unemployment rate in Spain just under 20%? Perhaps that is why no one was in attendance, as the football season is now over so many folks must have time on their hands.:)
 
Spain it's not a zoo aquarium themed parks fans country, here the people prefer the bars-resturants and the beach or the campings-hotels for to enjoy in holidays much more than visit those 'complex' and in the other hand, the very expensive prices definetely are not a help for to change this.
 
I have to say, both Valencia zoos, which we did on Saturday and Sunday, were busy when myself and robmv visited in May. The others were on weekdays but the Madrid and Barcelona collections were also far from dead - the dolphin shows were always packed and Barcelona Aquarium was incredibly busy, though this was mostly coach tours and school parties.

But yes, not a cheap place for zoo visiting!
 
The cost of getting into the various Spanish zoos is quite extraordinary - I´m just back from Faunia, in Madrid, where there is a rather ambitious headline figure of €25 for an adult entry - and then an additional charge of 60 c for the map (just a leaflet, nothing fancy). This last charge left me feeling rather grumpy actually; it´s a bit like the parking costs at Whipsnade, discussed at length elsewhere. Again, not many people there - or rather, the people who were there tended to be young children in big ´summer club´groups. Not a large number of independent visitors. I was able to sit in the penguin house and listen to half of an Emmylou Harris album on my ipod before anyone came in.

And why was I listening to my ipod? Because, amongst the many good things that characterise Spanish zoos, one very bad thing is the insistence on piping music and background sounds through hidden speakers. At Valencia zoo these are mainly ´wildlife´noises; at both Madrid collections it was awful muzak, punctuated, fairly frequently, by such delights as the theme tune from Jurassic Park, or (and this is what drives a man to country music to block it out) endless replays of Tight Fit´s early 80s hit, "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" ("a wimoweh, a wimoweh" and so on...). I still haven´t quite recovered from having Shakira at ear-splitting volume in the Valencia Aquarium.

Keeper: yes, you are right of course. It´s no coincidence that there are few zoos in southern Europe - and that those that do exist are, perhaps, targetted at tourists as much as locals. I can´t help but feel that if Valencia Zoo were in, say, Brighton, it would be pulling in visitors by the thousand. Mind you, if Madrid Zoo were in the UK, it would have protestors camped outside its gates, angry at the bear and ape housing (and the presence of dolphins too, of course).

Snow Leopard: no, I don´t think I will write a full review of the various zoos I´ve seen for Zoochat, but I will chip in comments (as here). Although I fail miserably to do so, I try not to put too much ópinion´stuff on here, and stick instead to facts. Why? Too many people out for an argument, or, possibly, who seem to be out for an argument because of the (unintentional) tone of what they say - or who see others as being out for an argument because of misreading the tone of what they have said.

But, I´d say as a headline that I found all four Spanish collections fascinating for very different reasons, but that I wouldn´t rush back to see them again - while I would rush back to most good German, Dutch or Czech zoos. There are different zoos for different people, and a Valencia just isn´t for me - very good though it is at doing what it does.
 
If you visit Barcelona Zoo in a working day, you will be alone, and you only will find school groups or foreign people that are spending the holydays at Barcelona. But if you visit it on weekend it's full of people (it's stressful), most of them are families from Barcelona.

The spanish zoos are very expensive. The only major zoo that has a relatively low price is Barcelona (16,5€) compared to Valencia o Faunia that overpases 20€ or Madrid that it cost basically 20€ (19,4€)
 
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