They might be more common now but one day soon we'll be lamenting the loss of coatis due to the Invasive Species Act that will cause them to disappear...
Species Becoming More Common in Zoos
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Red pandas have definitely become much more commonly kept in zoos in the past decade. Seeing that they are one of the few smaller, charismatic species that attract guests, it really shouldn't come as a surprise that zoos want them, even if they can be a bit boring to some zoochatters. Being suitable for cold climates is definitely also a plus for a lot of zoos.
I know dholes are having a slight comeback in the USA, I know Bronx, Minnesota, and the wilds have all contained them in the last decade.
And Egyptian Geese, Raccoon Dogs, Sacred Ibis, North American Ruddy Ducks and eventually The various Trachemys scripta subspecies.They might be more common now but one day soon we'll be lamenting the loss of coatis due to the Invasive Species Act that will cause them to disappear...
The fact that the invasive European populations of Raccoon Dog, American Mink and Northern Raccoon are due to escapes from fur farms, not zoos or private collections, yet fur farms have an exemption from the ban on keeping these species rather proves how ridiculous the ban actually is
Andrew Swales
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They might be more common now but one day soon we'll be lamenting the loss of coatis due to the Invasive Species Act that will cause them to disappear...
Bizarrely only in the UK. The rest of Europe is still allowed to keep White-nosed, which are gradually replacing Ring-tails. We will be in the stupid situation where the only country in Europe where all Coatis are banned under European Union legislation, is the only one which is not actually in the European Union.
Thank God for the EU...! - and all the politicians we all pay the wages of...
Remember that there are 10,000 species on the EU's intended 'banned' list. This is being introduced as creeping legislation so that it receives no real objections - with support seemingly from BIAZA and EAZA.
Plus thousands of others. The only species seemingly missed off which is the most threatening and in immediate danger of creating imminent extinction, is the domestic cat.
The fact that the invasive European populations of Raccoon Dog, American Mink and Northern Raccoon are due to escapes from fur farms, not zoos or private collections, yet fur farms have an exemption from the ban on keeping these species rather proves how ridiculous the ban actually is
It is all down to economic lobbying. Presumably fur farms as an off-shoot of Agriculture, have considerable such clout. We have seen how effective zoo lobbying has been (hic!) over the last few months.
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Andrew Swales
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Does this list show those spp becoming common or becoming rare?
It seems to have both...
Does this list show those spp becoming common or becoming rare?
It seems to have both...
Northern, certainly. Not so sure you are correct about Southern.
How about Mandarin duck? Not really any different to Egyptian goose as far as its colonisation of UK is concerned. Will all the Egyptian geese be shot? And what about all those Ring-necked Parakeets in London & the Home Counties?
If there are any motions to cull the Mandarin Duck population there may well be a certain level of opposition - not only does the species fill an otherwise empty niche, but the UK population is regarded as internationally significant, representing something like 40% of the world population; outside Japan, the species is in serious decline in the native range.
Oh, they're a lot more widespread than that now
got a healthy population only a mile or so from here!
Egyptian Geese would I hope be difficult to eradicate, and any attempt to reduce Mandarin or Parrakeet populations might run into a lot of opposition.
Yes, I can imagine all that too- there would be a huge wave of opposition. Hopefully for Egyptian geese too as I think they are great...(even if non-native)
Yes, UK certainly has a significant % of the world population in the case of Mandarin duck, but the rationale behind any proposed culls of other species might be difficult to justify if other non-natives such as Mandarins weren't included. I hope they wouldn't be anyway. I think in the case of any cull of an invasive species nowadays, then public opinion would have to be reckoned with anyway.
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Another taxon whose population seems to be increasing in North American zoological facilities is the Javan banteng (Bos javanicus javanicus). Being that they are endangered, I am glad to see this happening.