species people here on this forum wish they could see in us zoos

marbled cat
black snub nosed monkey
tonkin snub nosed monkey
hirola
wild bactrain camel
javan rhino
west african manatee
asian giant river ray
swinhoe's softshell turtle
helmeted hornbill
volcano rabbit
indri
water chevrotain
black wildebeest
giant flying squirrels
delacour's langur
white headed langur

I know. Most of them are just wishful thinking. But it is fun anyway.
 
Most of your "hopes" may be long shots, Yangz, but (as was mentioned on a thread about "extinct" animals in North American zoos) black wildebeest are still out there in North America, including at the open-to-the-public Six Flags Great Adventure & Wild Safari in New Jersey - Wild Safari: Six Flags Great Adventure.
 
Yes, Yangz, marbled cat absolutely! There is one (if it's still alive) at a zoo in Thailand and ISIS now lists one or two at a breeding center in the United Arab Emirates. Iberian (or Spanish) lynx as other people have said, and any other rare small cat. Fortunately, I started photographing wild cats just before they began phasing several out, so I have 27 distinct species photographed in the U.S. (many of which are now gone). But getting up to the full 36 species of wild cats would be nearly impossible. I will add rusty-spotted cat (species 28) when I go to France and England this October, since I missed the one they used to have at Cincinnati (died before I got there) and the pair they had at New Orleans' private research center also died. However, a personal email from the director (Betsy Dresser) told me she hopes to get more, so maybe they will come to the U.S. (but in an off-exhibit facility:().
 
Arizona Docent said:
Yes, Yangz, marbled cat absolutely! There is one (if it's still alive) at a zoo in Thailand and ISIS now lists one or two at a breeding center in the United Arab Emirates. Iberian (or Spanish) lynx as other people have said, and any other rare small cat. Fortunately, I started photographing wild cats just before they began phasing several out, so I have 27 distinct species photographed in the U.S. (many of which are now gone). But getting up to the full 36 species of wild cats would be nearly impossible. I will add rusty-spotted cat (species 28) when I go to France and England this October, since I missed the one they used to have at Cincinnati (died before I got there) and the pair they had at New Orleans' private research center also died. However, a personal email from the director (Betsy Dresser) told me she hopes to get more, so maybe they will come to the U.S. (but in an off-exhibit facility:().
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Do you think you can post the photos of the 27 species?
 
which is the zoo in Thailand with the marbled cat, because I will be over there briefly later this year?
 
mstickmanp said:
Do you think you can post the photos of the 27 species?
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Maybe, but since they're from different zoos you would have to hunt and peck to find them all in the gallery. Perhaps rarest in U.S. terms was oncilla (also known as tigrina); there was only one displayed for a brief period at Santa Ana Zoo. (There used to be a private breeder, SOS Care with them, but she has retired and when she was active she would not let anyone in - I wrote to her for photo access and she flatly refused me).
 
Chlidonias said:
which is the zoo in Thailand with the marbled cat, because I will be over there briefly later this year?
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Khao Kheow Open Zoo in Chonburi. They also recently acquired flat-headed cats - a huge bonus! I would love to get there some day (before they all die).
 
mstickmanp said:
Do you think you can post the photos of the 27 species?
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I would particularly be interested in seeing some of the ones that are no longer around or are harder to find. Things like the oncilla, jaguarundi, perhaps Geoffroy's cat if you've got it etc...
 
Ungulate said:
Most of your "hopes" may be long shots, Yangz, but (as was mentioned on a thread about "extinct" animals in North American zoos) black wildebeest are still out there in North America, including at the open-to-the-public Six Flags Great Adventure & Wild Safari in New Jersey - Wild Safari: Six Flags Great Adventure.
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Thank you Ungulate. I will check them out. Do you know if it is like a drive thru safari type park?
 
Ituri said:
I would particularly be interested in seeing some of the ones that are no longer around or are harder to find. Things like the oncilla, jaguarundi, perhaps Geoffroy's cat if you've got it etc...
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I lived by the Cincinnati Zoo for a few years. They used to have jaguarundi, margay, asiatic golden cat, sand cat, siberian lynx, pampas cat, caracal, bobcat, pallas's cat, ocelot, fishing cat and rusty spotted cat. It is almost like the capital of small cats. Later when I moved to a different city, I thought it would be nice to get pictures of small cats in that zoo. After I accumulated enough time and money, and equipped with a nice camera, they phased out most of their collections. Very sad. However, I think they still display the geoffroy's cat.
 
yangz said:
I lived by the Cincinnati Zoo for a few years. They used to have jaguarundi, margay, asiatic golden cat, sand cat, siberian lynx, pampas cat, caracal, bobcat, pallas's cat, ocelot, fishing cat and rusty spotted cat. It is almost like the capital of small cats. Later when I moved to a different city, I thought it would be nice to get pictures of small cats in that zoo. After I accumulated enough time and money, and equipped with a nice camera, they phased out most of their collections. Very sad. However, I think they still display the geoffroy's cat.
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When I was at cincy in summer '08 they still had a geofferys cat, a pampas cat and the margay. The rusty spot, jaguarundi and golden cat were not on display when i was there, if they even had them. They also had tayras and 3 lynx species on display which was cool to see.
 
loxodonta said:
When I was at cincy in summer '08 they still had a geofferys cat, a pampas cat and the margay. The rusty spot, jaguarundi and golden cat were not on display when i was there, if they even had them. They also had tayras and 3 lynx species on display which was cool to see.
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Last time I visited that zoo was may of 2008 and they have siberian lynx and bobcat. Can you tell me what the other lynx species is? The exhibit where margay displayed is occupied by the fishing cat when I was there. Cincinnati used to have the most diverse collection of small cats I know of. Not anymore.

Does anyone know any zoo that would have wild asiatic water buffalos?
 
The pair in Sedgwick are domestics. Not sure about the ones in San Diego though. Domestics have much shorter horns as compare to the awsome sweeping horns of the wild ones.
 
SDWAP's if they even still have them aren't on display and as far as I know they are domestic buffaloes.
 
Well I guess there aren't any wild Asian buffalo in zoos anymore. Europe might have a few. It's shame almost every bovid has been domesticated in zoos.
 
yangz said:
Last time I visited that zoo was may of 2008 and they have siberian lynx and bobcat. Can you tell me what the other lynx species is? The exhibit where margay displayed is occupied by the fishing cat when I was there. Cincinnati used to have the most diverse collection of small cats I know of. Not anymore.

Does anyone know any zoo that would have wild asiatic water buffalos?
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Lynx: They had Canadian, Eurasian and Siberian. Eurasians and Siberians resided in the outside enclosures while the Canadian was inside. The margay was next to the pampas cat. I was at the zoo in July 2008. I would still consider Cincy to have one of the more diverse small cat collections with 15 species.

Wild Water Buffalo: Port Lympne in the the U.K. has six of them according to their website.
 
According to wikipedia, there are four species in the genus of lynx, eurasian, canada, iberian and bobcat. I thought the eurasian is the same as siberian.

Wow, U.K. would be nice to visit. I have not been to that part of the world yet. But U.K. and Germany are definitely on my list. A lot zoos there and a lot of species U.S. doesn't have.
 
yangz said:
According to wikipedia, there are four species in the genus of lynx, eurasian, canada, iberian and bobcat. I thought the eurasian is the same as siberian.

Wow, U.K. would be nice to visit. I have not been to that part of the world yet. But U.K. and Germany are definitely on my list. A lot zoos there and a lot of species U.S. doesn't have.
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I believe you are correct and siberian is a subspecies of eurasian. I forgot that cincy also has bobcats on display. I also would love to do europe zoo trip in the furture.
 
I'd love to see these:

Indri
Proboscis Monkey
Hoolock Gibbon
Eastern Crested Gibbon
Capuchinbird
New Zealand Bellbird
Banded Langur
Bare-throated Bellbird
Black-collared Barbet
Black-faced Lion Tamarin
(any of the newly described marmosets, mouse lemurs, etc)
Rondo Bushbaby

I'm sure that I'll never see most of these, but I know a few are in some zoos.
 
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