I've got some very old prints of the Proboscis and Red Ukari monkeys and Doria's Tree Kangaroo at Twycross.
Species you've photographed which have since disappeared from UK collections
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I've got some very old prints of the Proboscis and Red Ukari monkeys and Doria's Tree Kangaroo at Twycross.
I forgot about the Tasmanian Devils in Copenhagen - they were absent from Europe for so long. Unfortunately my first visit to London must have been shortly after they were there.
The only species in the list that I have photographs of are douc (in the Gallery for Regents Park) and proboscis monkey - I got quite a nice shot of one born at Twycross, which I will scan one day.
I didn't actually see any of the other species, except for the Baikal seals at Twycross, which I could never photograph - I never saw them do anything except sleep and their enclosure was horrid.
Alan
The only species in the list that I have photographs of are douc (in the Gallery for Regents Park) and proboscis monkey - I got quite a nice shot of one born at Twycross, which I will scan one day.
I didn't actually see any of the other species, except for the Baikal seals at Twycross, which I could never photograph - I never saw them do anything except sleep and their enclosure was horrid.
Alan
I have a photo of a male pampas cat at Chester and a female proboscis monkey at Twycross, as is the case with Gentle Lemur it is finding the time to
a) track them down and
b) upload them.
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I've been trying to find when the T Devils were last at London. I can't find a definite answer, but it appears to be around 1990/91 and cant find when that period of holding them began(late 70s?).
Interestingly ZTL lists London, chester & edinburgh as the only UK holders, but the ZSL website states a pair were sent to Whipsnade by the Australian government in 1957 ![/QUOTE]
I remember seeing them in 1985, but not after that, obviously they were still there I just don;t remember them.
The only Zoo Yearbook figures I have that are relevant to the last specimens kept at London, list the zoo as holding 2.1 in 1983 and 1.1 in 1984.
I've been trying to find when the T Devils were last at London. I can't find a definite answer, but it appears to be around 1990/91 and cant find when that period of holding them began(late 70s?).
Interestingly ZTL lists London, chester & edinburgh as the only UK holders, but the ZSL website states a pair were sent to Whipsnade by the Australian government in 1957 ![/QUOTE]
I remember seeing them in 1985, but not after that, obviously they were still there I just don;t remember them.
The only Zoo Yearbook figures I have that are relevant to the last specimens kept at London, list the zoo as holding 2.1 in 1983 and 1.1 in 1984.
You must have been very unlucky then, I may only have been young but I distinctly remember the seals as always being very active on my visits. It was a shame that the enclosure was extremely lacklustre and was more like a garden pond rather than a purpose built seal enclosure for an amazing animal...
The Borth Leopard is NOT a Persian, the animal is "Rajah" a 17 year old male born at Basildon Zoo , he is said to be "African" or a "Zoo Leopard" - ie; of mixed parentage possibly, but definately not Persian for sure.
I was extremely dubious of the latter two entries but at least now the Rutland entry is accurate as he came from Chessington anyway. Borth is a place I feel is more of a hobbyist collection and never really believed they'd have a Persian. Thanks for clearing it up though.
According to Zootierliste, the following monotremes and marsupials are no longer found in European zoos:
Monotremes: Barton's echidna, platypus.
Opossums: Azara's, brown four-eyed, common, Derby's and western woolly, dusky and white-bellied slender, elegant fat-tailed and Mexican mouse, four-eyed, philander, red-legged short-tailed, thick-tailed, water
Dasyurids: Brush-tailed phascogale, common planigale, fat-tailed dunnart, New Guinea, spotted-tail, western and northern quolls, yellow-footed antechinus
Thylacine
Bandicoots: Common, long-nosed, northern and southern brown, Raffray, rufous spiny, greater bilby
Cuscuses and brush-tailed possums: Coppery brushtail, Sulawesi dwarf, short-tailed spotted and grey cuscuses, short-eared possum
Ring-tail possums: Common and lemuroid ring-tails, greater glider
Gliders: Leadbeater's possum, squirrel and yellow-bellied gliders
Feather-tails: Feather-tail possum
Pygmy possums: Eastern and mountain
Wombats: Southern hairy-nosed
Rat kangaroos: Desert, rufous and musky rat kangaroos, burrowing and eastern bettongs
Kangaroos and wallabies: Antilopine wallaroo, banded, spectacled and eastern hare wallabies, Bennett's, grizzled, highland, Vogelkop and Doria's tree kangaroos, black-striped and pretty-faced wallaby, bridled, northern and crescent nail-tailed wallabies, brush-tailed, short-eared, unadorned and Rothschild's rock wallabies, grey and Macleay's dorcopsis, quokka, red-bellied, red-necked and red-legged pademelons, western brush wallaby
Monotremes: Barton's echidna, platypus.
Opossums: Azara's, brown four-eyed, common, Derby's and western woolly, dusky and white-bellied slender, elegant fat-tailed and Mexican mouse, four-eyed, philander, red-legged short-tailed, thick-tailed, water
Dasyurids: Brush-tailed phascogale, common planigale, fat-tailed dunnart, New Guinea, spotted-tail, western and northern quolls, yellow-footed antechinus
Thylacine
Bandicoots: Common, long-nosed, northern and southern brown, Raffray, rufous spiny, greater bilby
Cuscuses and brush-tailed possums: Coppery brushtail, Sulawesi dwarf, short-tailed spotted and grey cuscuses, short-eared possum
Ring-tail possums: Common and lemuroid ring-tails, greater glider
Gliders: Leadbeater's possum, squirrel and yellow-bellied gliders
Feather-tails: Feather-tail possum
Pygmy possums: Eastern and mountain
Wombats: Southern hairy-nosed
Rat kangaroos: Desert, rufous and musky rat kangaroos, burrowing and eastern bettongs
Kangaroos and wallabies: Antilopine wallaroo, banded, spectacled and eastern hare wallabies, Bennett's, grizzled, highland, Vogelkop and Doria's tree kangaroos, black-striped and pretty-faced wallaby, bridled, northern and crescent nail-tailed wallabies, brush-tailed, short-eared, unadorned and Rothschild's rock wallabies, grey and Macleay's dorcopsis, quokka, red-bellied, red-necked and red-legged pademelons, western brush wallaby
Unless you're very long lived and well travelled I suspect you haven't photographed all of those in the UK!
Yes, I’ve seen that comment on the ZSL website too; it is intriguing me as I cannot find any reference to Whipsnade receiving a pair of Tasmanian devils in the ZSL Annual Report for 1957. I’ll try to find out more about this.
Incidentally, the ZSL Annual Report for 1963 records that Whipsnade received a pair of Tasmanian devils that year as part of “the magnificent collection” presented to the ZSL to mark the Queen’s visit to Australia in February 1963.
there were also devils at London in the 1930s which aren't referenced on Zootierliste. (The last one in that decade was called Dammit and died in 1937).
There was an application to the Tasmanian government for devils for Whipsnade in 1953, which was approved, so perhaps the "1957" is a typo or perhaps the export didn't take place for four years for some reason.
Yes, London had quite a few Tasmanian devils that aren't listed on Zootierliste - although I note that Zootierlist has very recently been updated to include Tasmanian devils at Whipsnade.
It must have been very recent, they weren't on there when i posted my comment on here yesterday! Thanks for the information Tim, it will be interesting to know what else you find out, it could just be another inaccuracy on the part of the ZSL website.
Unless you're very long lived and well travelled I suspect you haven't photographed all of those in the UK!
Hello TeaLoving Dave
No, I haven't photographed all of these, although I've seen a few in Europe.
London: Barton's echidna, four-eyed opossum, rufous spiny bandicoot, s: Leadbeater's possum
Rotterdam: Brush-tailed rock wallaby
IanRRobinson
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A well-thought out facility for Tasmanian devils might work rather well at Whipsnade. After all, Bennett's Wallabies have thrived there for over eighty years with minimal help.
Another species which has ceased to be kept very recently; I took this photo of the Southern Bald Ibis (Geronticus calvus) at Blackbrook when I visited on 24 February 2013 - by the time the collection re-opened fully at the end of April the species was gone. Judging by the severe weather between these two points, it is quite possible that this individual died as a result.
Good news on this account - I have discovered that Exmoor Zoo has gone into this species. Considering the fact I already knew they had recieved a few things from Blackbrook, they may even have the very individual I photographed.
Couple of a Persion Leopard at Chessington - taken 22nd March 2013
Persian Leopard 1 130322 by Daysleeper40, on Flickr
Persian Leopard 3 130322 by Daysleeper40, on Flickr
Persian Leopard 1 130322 by Daysleeper40, on FlickrPersian Leopard 3 130322 by Daysleeper40, on Flickr
On my first visit across the pond in autumn 2009 I got several good shots of Indian wildcat (aka Indian desert cat) at Port Lympne. I believe that subspecies has since died out?
Port Lympne, Oct 28, 2009 | ZooChat
Port Lympne, Oct 28, 2009 | ZooChat