Paul.Haerle
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Interesting to hear that, as I heard from failed mixes in Europe with dead birds and if remember right macaws and toucans are hostile to each other and toucans catch conures in nature.
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Velas
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Toucans will indeed prey on smaller birds and macaw's birds/eggs, but I've not seen a case of it happening in captivity. Maybe the temperament of the animals and the size of enclousure matter in that case, but I've seen it working even on smaller exhibits, so...
MOG2012
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So the different exhibits focus/themes are;
- Holarctic animals for a winter holiday exhibit
- Conservation priority animals
- Rainbow & pride animals
AndyJ08
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I’ll take a shot at the second “theme” as it seems to be the easiest and most realistically possible of the three (unclear what the third theme means. Same-sex animal couples? Species with colorful/rainbow patterning?).
Conservation Nation: Animals that have shown conservation success in captivity that have been saved from extinction by zoological facilities or are otherwise of conservation concern.
Terrariums/aquariums section:
I. Panama golden frog
II. Puerto Rican crested toad
III. Turquoise dwarf gecko
IV. Red-eyed tree frog
V. Butterfly goodeid
VI. White Cloud mountain minnow, reticulated hillstream loach, and Chinese crocodile lizard
VII. Solomon Islands skink
VIII. Fly river turtle, Western rainbowfish
IX. Hellbender, Rainbow shiner
X. Fiji banded iguana
XI. West African dwarf crocodile
Three indoor enclosures (nocturnal):
XII. Aye-aye
XIII. Brush-tailed bettong/Southern hairy-nosed wombat (rotational)
XIV. Black-footed cat
Greenhouse with exhibits (I chose a New Guinea theme):
Free-roaming: Common emerald dove, Hooded pitta, Metallic starling, Ragianna bird-of-paradise, Superb fruit dove, Victoria-crowned pigeon, Wompoo fruit dove
XV. Mastchie’s tree kangaroo
XVI. Boesman’s rainbowfish, Lake Kutubu rainbowfish, Red rainbowfish, Red-bellied short-necked turtle
XVII. Blyth’s hornbill
MOG2012
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It means both. It's the summer seasonal exhibit
Paul.Haerle
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I would like to know how you would change/stock the following aviaries (not big enough for birds like hornbills, peafowl, cockatoos etc) to get some inspiration:
- Borneo: Jampu Fruit Dove, Blue-winged Pitta, White-crowned Shama, Asian Fairy Bluebird
- New Caledonia: Stephan‘s Emerald Dove, Red-bellied Fruit Dove, Blue-crowned Lorikeet, Red-throated Parrotfinch, Chestnut-breasted Mannikin
- Java: Chestnut-bellied Partridge, Ruby-throated Bulbul, Black-winged Myna
- Sulawesi: Sulawesi Red-necked Ground Dove, Superb Fruit Dove, White-bellied Imperial Pigeon, Ornate Lorikeet, Grosbeak Starlibg
- Taiwan: Asian Blue Quail, Black-chinned Fruit Dove, Collared Finchbill, White-rumped Mannikin
- Mindanao: Mindanao Bleeding-heart, White-eared Brown Dove, Black-chinned Fruit Dove, Yellow-breasted Fruit Dove, Mindanao Lorikeet
- Philippine Archipelago: Cotton Pygmy Goose, Black-chinned Fruit Dove, Yellow-breasted Fruit Dove, Pheasant-tailed Jacana, Little Ringed Plover, Curlew Sandpiper
- Papua (1): Green-naped Pheasant Pigeon, Cinnamon Ground Dove, Beautiful Fruit Dove, Double-eyed Fig Parrot, Papuan Red-flanked Lorikeet, Flamed Bowerbird
- Papua (2): Green Pygmy Goose, Pink-spotted and Wompoo Fruit Dove, Collared Imperial Pigeon, Edward‘s Fig Parrot, Goldie‘s Lorikeet
- Sumatra: Northern Bronze-tailed Pheasant, Crested Partridge, Barred Cuckoo Dove, Pink-necked Green Dove, Scaly-breasted Bulbul, Silver-eared Leiothrix, Asian Fairy Bluebird
As you maybe recognised some of the birds don’t live on the based island, only on nearby islands. If you do that too, I’m fine with that too
- Borneo: Jampu Fruit Dove, Blue-winged Pitta, White-crowned Shama, Asian Fairy Bluebird
- New Caledonia: Stephan‘s Emerald Dove, Red-bellied Fruit Dove, Blue-crowned Lorikeet, Red-throated Parrotfinch, Chestnut-breasted Mannikin
- Java: Chestnut-bellied Partridge, Ruby-throated Bulbul, Black-winged Myna
- Sulawesi: Sulawesi Red-necked Ground Dove, Superb Fruit Dove, White-bellied Imperial Pigeon, Ornate Lorikeet, Grosbeak Starlibg
- Taiwan: Asian Blue Quail, Black-chinned Fruit Dove, Collared Finchbill, White-rumped Mannikin
- Mindanao: Mindanao Bleeding-heart, White-eared Brown Dove, Black-chinned Fruit Dove, Yellow-breasted Fruit Dove, Mindanao Lorikeet
- Philippine Archipelago: Cotton Pygmy Goose, Black-chinned Fruit Dove, Yellow-breasted Fruit Dove, Pheasant-tailed Jacana, Little Ringed Plover, Curlew Sandpiper
- Papua (1): Green-naped Pheasant Pigeon, Cinnamon Ground Dove, Beautiful Fruit Dove, Double-eyed Fig Parrot, Papuan Red-flanked Lorikeet, Flamed Bowerbird
- Papua (2): Green Pygmy Goose, Pink-spotted and Wompoo Fruit Dove, Collared Imperial Pigeon, Edward‘s Fig Parrot, Goldie‘s Lorikeet
- Sumatra: Northern Bronze-tailed Pheasant, Crested Partridge, Barred Cuckoo Dove, Pink-necked Green Dove, Scaly-breasted Bulbul, Silver-eared Leiothrix, Asian Fairy Bluebird
As you maybe recognised some of the birds don’t live on the based island, only on nearby islands. If you do that too, I’m fine with that too
MOG2012
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Emerald doves, sunbird (temminck's?), thick-billed green pigeon. Maybe hooded pitta instead of blue-winged
Myzomela, cloven-feathered doves
Pink-necked green pigeon, non-breading javan pond heron, javan banded pitta
Maybe javan/white-vented myna instead of black-winged myna
Silver-tipped imperial pigeon, myzomela
Grey-cheeked vulveeta, taiwan barbet, green pigeons, maybe taiwan blue magpie
Metallic pigeon, blue-crowned parrot
Cotton pygmy goose, pheasant-tailed jacana, little ringed plover, wood sandpiper, yellow breasted fruit dove, philippine cuckoo dove
Hooded pitta, imperial pigeon, cuckooshrike, yellow-billed kingfisher
Orange-fronted parrot, dwarf fruit dove
Large green pigeon, malayan laughingthrush
Paul.Haerle
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Thanks for that ideas, but several of them are impossible to get, because of import restrictions or availability.
I‘d redesign the Java aviary, now focussed on Javan Banded Pittas alongside with Purple Whistling Thrush, Pin-tailed Parrotfinches, Red Avadavats, White-headed Munias and Thick-billed Green Pigeons.
I have also some new aviary concepts:
- Timor: Chestnut-bellied Partridge, Edward‘s Marigold Lorikeet, Timor Iris Lory, Black-winged Myna
- Sumbawa: Barred Buttonquail, Sumbawa Sunset Lorikeet, Chestnut-backed Thrush
- Madagascar (Savanna/1): Namaqua Dove, Kittlitz‘s Plover, Madagascar Mannikin
- Madagascar (Rainforest/2): African Pygmy Goose, Madagascar Blue Pigeon, Allen‘s Gallinule, Broad-billed Roller
- Ceylon: Cotton Pygmy Goose, Common Ringed Plover, Collared Pratincole, Pheasant-tailed Jacana, Eurasian Hoopoe, European Bee-eater, Rosy Starling
- Bioko: Rufous-collared Rock Pratincole, Blue-spotted Wood Dove, Bioko Munia, Green-backed Twinspot
- Congolese Rainforest: Copper Sunbird, Dybowski‘s Twinspot, Western Bluebill
- South African Gallery Forest: African Pygmy Goose, Mourning Collared Dove, Livingstone‘s Turaco, Long-toed Lapwing, White-fronted Bee-eater, Red-winged Starling, White-browed Robin-chat
- West African Savanna: Black-headed Lapwing, Blue-breasted Kingfisher, Grey-headed Bushshrike, Piapiac
And do You have ideas for other aviaries and ideas for birds that could live in outside aviaries with Golden-headed Trogons and Peruvian Cocks-of-the-Rocks and Green-backed Trogons and Guianan Cocks-of-the-Rocks?
MOG2012
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Zebra finch, pink-headed imperial pigeon, jonquil parrot
Madagascar turtle dove, madagascar buttonquail
Madagascar crested ibis
Grey-headed kingfisher, black-necked weaver, tree hyrax, brush-tailed porcupine
Red-fronted parrot, emin's turaco, red river hog, maybe colobus
African green pigeon, southern red bishop, purple-crested turaco, green twinspot, cape porcupine
Red-cheeked cordon-bleu, senegal thick-knee, village weaver, lavender waxbill
Violaceous euphonia, blue grey tanager, silver beaked tanager, palm tanager, purquoise tanager, manakins, grey winged trumpeter, ruddy quail dove, chacalacas
I am looking for invertebrates and tiny herptiles that occur in the Southern African savanna or semi-desert, and they should be suitable for captivity. Does anyone have suggestions?
Some inverts:
Derby’s flower beetle (Dicronorhina derbyana)
Reverse garden chafer (Pachnoda sinuata flaviventris)
Namibian assassin bug (Anthia biguttata)
Ghost Porcelain Roach (Gyna caffrorum)
Splendid red millipede (Centrobolus splendidus)
Golden blue-legged baboon spider (Harpactira pulchripes)
Kalahari burrower (Opistophthalmus wahlbergii)
Mozambique Thicktail Scorpion (Parabuthus mossambicensis)
Are these two species acquirable from the pet market? I couldn't find any from searching through the Zoochat Media
You quote the same species twice but they're available on multiple European invert pet stores
Oh, I quoted the wrong one, another species I initially wanted to quote should be the Namibian assassin bug
Again, any suggestions of small Herptiles (no heavier than African Bullfrog) from the Southern African savannah or semi-desert that are available in captivity
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Velas
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African house snakes (genus Boaedon) are found in some zoos worldwide and are seen somewhat commonly on the pet trade. According to ZTL, the most common of these is the Brown house snake (B. fuliginosus) from West Africa, but it seems like that both it and the less comonly kept Cape house snake (B.capensis) are present on the pet trade.
Paul.Haerle
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Do you have any ideas for the following aviaries:
- Wimmera with Pink Cockatoo, Little Corella, Galah, Gang-gang and Red-tailed Black Cockatoo (biggest with about 1000m²)
- MacDonell with Mallee Ringneck, Northern Rosella and Alexandra‘s Parrot
- Pilbara with Mulga Parrot, Port Lincoln‘s Ringneck and Elegant Parrot
- Channel Country with Yellow-vented Bluebonnet, Pale-headed Rosella and Bourke‘s Parrot
- Murray with Regent Parrot and Red-rumped Parrot
And ideas for other Outback aviaries?
- Wimmera with Pink Cockatoo, Little Corella, Galah, Gang-gang and Red-tailed Black Cockatoo (biggest with about 1000m²)
- MacDonell with Mallee Ringneck, Northern Rosella and Alexandra‘s Parrot
- Pilbara with Mulga Parrot, Port Lincoln‘s Ringneck and Elegant Parrot
- Channel Country with Yellow-vented Bluebonnet, Pale-headed Rosella and Bourke‘s Parrot
- Murray with Regent Parrot and Red-rumped Parrot
And ideas for other Outback aviaries?
Paul.Haerle
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Black Grouse with Orient Turtle Dove, Masked Bullfinch, Grey-backed Thrush, Bohemian Waxwing…
Paul.Haerle
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Do you have ideas for themes for aviaries included in a boat-drive-through?
I already have a combined Hawaii and Lesser Antillean themed aviary.
I already have a combined Hawaii and Lesser Antillean themed aviary.