Spix's Macaw news

eduardo_Brazil said:
Alpza in is Conservation Newsletter from july 2010, about conservation projects also shows the spix macaw project and says that Brazil dont is owner of the birds that are abroad (maybe olny a part them?) and that they are aware of some birds not registered in the programm, and they estimate that a total amount of 150 macaws in captivity.

Only spanish:

http://www.alpza.com/docs/NEWSLETTER JULIO 2010 pdf.pdf
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mmmh interesting, do you know the source of that information (mainly the 150 macaws), this as i thought all birds were known by now (except for the claim of the ACTP on the Swiss birds).

By the way Brazil does own the birds at the Loro Parque, no clue which agreements were made about the young female in Berlin (Brazilian owned male x German owned female).
 
AWWP also reported the father of two of their recent chicks is a very old male which hadn't bred previously- he's believed to be the oldest known Spix ever. Presumably he was in the initial batch of birds they received from the Phillipines breeder, De Dios rather than from a different source, though it gives no information on his background.
 
DDcorvus said:
mmmh interesting, do you know the source of that information (mainly the 150 macaws), this as i thought all birds were known by now (except for the claim of the ACTP on the Swiss birds).

By the way Brazil does own the birds at the Loro Parque, no clue which agreements were made about the young female in Berlin (Brazilian owned male x German owned female).
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Well the report was made by Dr. Yara de Melo Barros that is the coordinator of the Pspix Macaw Program, they estimate a total of 150 birds, 50 % (73 birds) are in the project and the other birds they say that are hidden in some countries (not only 1) and they aware of it.

So who knows??? I dont believe that there are 70-75 hidden spix macaws in the world.
 
I have heard similar numbers (around 70 privately "owned" birds) outside of the official breeding program. There are certainly more Spix in Switzerland.
 
eduardo_Brazil said:
Well the report was made by Dr. Yara de Melo Barros that is the coordinator of the Pspix Macaw Program, they estimate a total of 150 birds, 50 % (73 birds) are in the project and the other birds they say that are hidden in some countries (not only 1) and they aware of it.

So who knows??? I dont believe that there are 70-75 hidden spix macaws in the world.
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Thanks Eduardo, I agree with you it's very unlikely that there are so many spix macaws out of the program (we already discussed it before) although it would be a big boost for the population, but we ll see :). Do not forget there are as well rumours that there are still Glaucous Macaws in captivity, maybe these Spix's are in the same collections together with some carolina parrots and cuban macaws.
 
DDcorvus said:
Thanks Eduardo, I agree with you it's very unlikely that there are so many spix macaws out of the program (we already discussed it before) although it would be a big boost for the population, but we ll see :). Do not forget there are as well rumours that there are still Glaucous Macaws in captivity, maybe these Spix's are in the same collections together with some carolina parrots and cuban macaws.
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A litle bit off topic...and there are also serious rumours in Brazil that the Glaucous Macaw is still present in nature, there are some reports from farmers, a project is in development for search this populations.
 
that would be an amazing find, but there have been expeditions before and all proved the gossips to be outdated or false. But if this one would succeed where others failed....
Do you have more details on the project?
 
eduardo_Brazil said:
A litle bit off topic...and there are also serious rumours in Brazil that the Glaucous Macaw is still present in nature, there are some reports from farmers, a project is in development for search this populations.
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That would certainly be an encouraging find. Is this only "a rumour" or is there more concrete evidence. I remain - Nature Is More Resilient Sometimes Than We Fear It To Be -. :) :confused:

On Spix's: I do think there are more Spix's in captivity. There have been rumours re. Switzerland ..., however 75+ seems a bit much ... :(
 
Hi,

Well the project is still in plann and not much informations are given yet, but asap I have access to more informations I will post it. Loro Parque will be the main sponsor of the project, so I was told.

They want to look at parts of forest that still dont was visited in previous expeditions, since there are several parts with no human disturbance or even never visited by humans before and maybe a small population can still live there. Lets see the results!

And nature give some surprises some times, maybe you all remember the discovery of L. caissara some years ago, in Atlantic Forest, and not talking about Amazon that are several new species discovered in the last years. Our forest are so dense and a species can be hidden in remote parts without be found.
 
I'm in Tenerife next week - does anyone know if any Spix's are on show at the moment?


(not that it makes a great amount of difference as I'll be doing Loro Parque very thoroughly either way!)
 
Well Maguari, if you don't see the macaws, there is always a killer whale calf and twin sloths, born recently.
A first i believe.
 
kiang said:
Well Maguari, if you don't see the macaws, there is always a killer whale calf and twin sloths, born recently.
A first i believe.
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I'm not going to be short of parrot-y entertainment, don't worry! :D

Non-parrot-wise, I'm very much looking forward to the Killer Whales (a species I've not seen in 12 years) but also my first Chinstrap Penguins, all being well.
 
Maguari said:
I'm in Tenerife next week - does anyone know if any Spix's are on show at the moment?


(not that it makes a great amount of difference as I'll be doing Loro Parque very thoroughly either way!)
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I really enjoyed my visit some years ago , very commercial place but some amazing animals and beautiful tropical gardens . Might not be your thing , but the Sea Lion show was the best I have seen , in terms of the seeming enjoyment and enthusiasm of both animals and presenters .

Look forward to your photos .
 
If you can find out exactly what Spix LP currenly hold ( by age, sexes, pairs etc) it would be very interesting.
 
the established breeding couple in the Fundacion is breeding on a fertile egg. So good news again.
 
yes I meant brooding. And it seems there are good hopes that I second couple will start soon as well.
 
DDcorvus said:
yes I meant brooding. And it seems there are good hopes that I second couple will start soon as well.
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That would be a real coup! :cool:

I cannot figure out why Brazil's own zoos would not now take up the gauntlet and start making up pairs big time ... in order to have a greater portion of the Spix's be bred locally.
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
I cannot figure out why Brazil's own zoos would not now take up the gauntlet and start making up pairs big time ... in order to have a greater portion of the Spix's be bred locally.
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Apathy?;)

For many years the birds at Sao Paulo Zoo were not even sexed...:rolleyes:
 
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