Stardust Circus

Jarkari

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Last friday night I went to Stardust Circus in Bathurst. For me the sole reason for going to the circus was for the animals. I do enjoy a circus but three or four come to town every year.

Now I know some people are dead against circuses with animals but it was circuses that actually got me into animals.

I would firstly like to commend Stardust and the ring master for the information provided on the animals during the show. It was the first time I have been to a circus that told you what type of monkeys they were using and a few facts on the lions.

CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE AGES OF STARDUSTS LIONS?

HOWEVER. and this is my own opionion. Others may have a different view.
The lion act wasn't anywhere near as good as ones I have seen in the past. The lions stationed a few times, lay down together (not very smoothly and a little bit forced) and one jumped through a hoop. The act to me just looked like the trainer was pushing the lions in to position a lot.

One lioness was very grumpy (I actually thought she was a desexed male) and had what appeared to be a growth under her eye. Not sure what this was from but she looked very miserable.

The other two however were quite happy, seemed to enjoy the interaction with the handler (the first was a bit aggressive toward him). And were very impressive my nieces and nephews loved it (except for the youngest who burst into tears when the male started roaring). I had heard something about declawing lions at Stardust and haven't been able to find evidence to prove either way but in the light in the circus tent they didn't seem to have claws and the feet looked a little odd. But otherwise the other two looked fairly healthy

The monkeys didn't do too much in the way of performing. All looked very healthy and seemed happy.

The dogs were misbehaving a bit. but still all very good looking border collies.

Horses and ponies were good, not the best judge of this as they did behaviours with theirs that we do with our own, but good for people that don't train and work horses.

The human acts ranged from good to amazing. The teeter board act was great.

The clowns were great. It's the first time I've laughed at circus clowns in years. They had the right mix of jokes for kids while adding a little subtle adult content.
Plus I've never seen a show where they take kids from the circus and throw them around the ring up in the air. It was great.

Even if you are against animal circuses it really was a good night out. The traditional circuses are the ones that need support. I recently read the federal government provided grants to circus oz equal to around $1.5 million. The traditional circuses recieve NOTHING from any external sources. One of the grants was to fund a tour of regional areas (like bathurst) Stardust and other traditionals travel to these towns and smaller (cowra was the previous stop) and rely solely on ticket sales so I don't understand why other circuses need government funding.

If they come by, it is worth a look.
 
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I went to Stardust a few months ago in Shepparton, and agree with your review. I was going to put up a review but did not get around to it, and yours was more detailed than mine would have been.

I agree totally with your description of pusing the lions into position as I did say to people afterwards that it was more "Lion Pushing" than "Lion Taming". The Lions looked well cared for other than looking overwight. The only time they moved fast was when they opened the gate out of the ring. I actually took my kids to look at the lions the day before the circus and they were relaxing in their transportable pen which is probobly bigger than the perminent ones at some zoos.

My kids said they loved it, other than the tent being about 50 degrees celcious.

There were no dogs preforming at the show we went to and the monkeys did not do much. The horses were good and I dont know how you would teach one to do what they did.

Before the show started they had a few rides which the kids wanted to go on, but mean me only let them go on the blow up slide/jumping castle. The bloke running it was very abrupt with all the children and was constantly telling them to hurry up and I was wondering how he kept the job. Latter at the show I found out he was their star act on the trapeeze and dealing with children is not what he is employed for.
 
I was told there are only two circuses in Australia with big cats, Stardust being one and Lennon Bros the other. I saw the Lennon Bros show when it came to Cairns in June 2007 and took photos which I recently uploaded to Zoochat:

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You saw the show in NSW. When talking about the show to someone who rented the apartment next to me, he told me that in NSW, where he came from, circuses were not allowed to show big cats. But clearly he was wrong!
 
I would have taken photos but they were very definite with no photos. I am suprised Lenon Brothers are not the same. I probobly could have taken photos of the Lions outside in their enclosure, but was a fair way away as the public are not allowed close to where they were.
 
I didn't make the slightest attempt to hide my camera when I entered the show tent in the evening.

As to my photos of the animals off-show during the day; the circus was on a small grass field close to the Cairns CBD and around was a fence that I could easily put my lens through. But I was not satisfied with my photos so I just went and asked if I could go in and take photos of the lions in their enclosure. This was hours before the first evening show, perhaps everyone was resting for the evening. I don't recall seeing any circus staff member apart from the bloke I spoke to. I guess he didn't want to bother the lion trainer or animal staff so he took me there himself, I took the photos I wanted, thanked him and left.

They're so laidback up in the north! ;)
 
Both circuses are owned and operated by members of the Lennon Family.
They were also against photos when I was there.
It is up to local councils to decide wether or not an animal circus can perform there. However even then they can only stop them from performing on council land. If the circus can setup on private property within a council that has banned animal circuses the show can go on.
 
Good discussion, Jarkari

There is so much misinformation about animal circuses from people who don’t bother going along and checking the facts for themselves. As you saw, Stardust’s animals are in great condition.

(In fact, if you go to the homepage of my website – SUPPORTING CIRCUSES WITH ANIMALS - Home – you’ll see a You Tube video of an RSPCA inspector visiting Lennon Bros Circus. The RSPCA opposes animal circuses, yet their own inspector said they were in wonderful condition!).

In terms of the lions’ ages, they usually have a sign at the front of their enclosure showing their names, gender and age. I believe the eldest is about 8-years-old, and the youngest is about 3.

There is a close bond between Stardust’s lion trainer, Matthew, and his lions. Just have a look at some of these pictures:

http://bigtopanimals.webs.com/Lion.jpg
http://bigtopanimals.webs.com/481575.jpg
http://bigtopanimals.webs.com/362850-stardust-circus.jpg

He is also one of the few who can feed them out of the palm of his hand. If there was any cruelty, they clearly wouldn’t let him do that.

As for the border collies, that act was only added to the show a few months ago, so perhaps the dogs haven’t quite mastered the art of good behaviour yet!

I agree wholeheartedly that traditional circuses deserve government support. They have provided wholesome entertainment to Australian families for over a hundred years and we should do everything possible to maintain this tradition.

In 2006, a total of 1.3 million people attended a traditional animal circus in Australia. That was more than Rugby Union (0.9 million) and Opera (0.4 million). This shows that they still hold a special place in our society, and those opposing them are in the vocal minority.

Long live the animal circus.

SUPPORTING CIRCUSES WITH ANIMALS - Home
Big Top Animals (bigtopanimals) on Twitter
 
I'm rather indifferent to circuses (unless there is obvious animal cruelty) so I am not actually entering this discussion, but I do want to point out a glaring piece of illogic:

In 2006, a total of 1.3 million people attended a traditional animal circus in Australia... This shows that they still hold a special place in our society, and those opposing them are in the vocal minority.

A total of 1.3 million (6.5%) people attended a circus in Australia, therefore approximately 18.7 million (93.5%) people did not attend a circus. How you can conclude that those opposing circuses are in the minority is beyond me as there is nothing to suggest how many people actually fall into that category.

I'm not trying to start a debate. I just want to provide Big Top Animals with some constructive critique: When you make a statement along the lines of "This shows that xyz ..." but in fact it does not show that, then you are doing yourself a disservice as it will turn people away from your cause.

:p

Hix

Note: Percentages calculated with the assumption Australia's population was 20 million in 2006, there was no visitation by tourists, and no repeat visits.
 
@Big Top Animals: Your website is informative and interesting, but I feel that the bottom line is that no matter how many people still adore seeing exotic animals performing in circuses the end is near for such organizations. In the past half century there has been a staggering number of closures, petitions, laws and government action in regards to exotic animals in circuses, and animal rights groups have shut down innumerable sideshow acts. There are literally hundreds of cities around the world that have outright banned the use of exotic animals in circuses, and it is at the point where several countries have banned them altogether. How many more years will elapse before there won't be any more exotic animals left in circuses? It is a dying industry, and far different from its heyday more than a century ago.
 
I'm rather indifferent to circuses (unless there is obvious animal cruelty) so I am not actually entering this discussion, but I do want to point out a glaring piece of illogic:



A total of 1.3 million (6.5%) people attended a circus in Australia, therefore approximately 18.7 million (93.5%) people did not attend a circus. How you can conclude that those opposing circuses are in the minority is beyond me as there is nothing to suggest how many people actually fall into that category.

I'm not trying to start a debate. I just want to provide Big Top Animals with some constructive critique: When you make a statement along the lines of "This shows that xyz ..." but in fact it does not show that, then you are doing yourself a disservice as it will turn people away from your cause.

:p

Hix

Note: Percentages calculated with the assumption Australia's population was 20 million in 2006, there was no visitation by tourists, and no repeat visits.


Fair point, Hix.

My statement wasn't referring to those who simply didn't attend a circus in that year. I'm referring to those who actively protest against animal circuses, who are often seen to be representative of community sentiment. My point is that animal circuses are still a popular attraction, and, therefore, there remains significant support for the industry which is often overlooked in today's media representations.

snowleopard, thanks for visiting the website. I agree that the future of the industry is under a cloud, which is why I'm passionate about encouraging people to set the record straight against the misinformation putting animal circuses at risk.
 
Big Top Animals, that is a good web site.
I would not go to a circus without animals.

Keep posting.
 
Big Top Animals, that is a good web site.
I would not go to a circus without animals.

Keep posting.

Thanks Monty.

I still go to some non-animal circuses (Silvers, Sunrise) and enjoy them for what they are, but they really can't provide the true circus experience we remember from our childhood.

Robert Perry said it best in 1999: "Without animals, it's just not a circus, it's street theatre. It's like having a cricket match with no bat or ball."

Yet, Circus Oz received another $3m in yesterday's Victorian state budget. How much do traditional circuses receive? Not a cent.

As Jarkari said in the opening post, they deserve our support.
 
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