Sumatran Rhino news thread

Ned said:
I wonder if people would value a species more if it was lost and then brought back? Having experienced the loss of a species would they work hard so as not to lose it again? As they say, you don't know what you've got' til it's gone.
Also I think we should start looking at ecosystems as if they are organisms. If we can return a species it strengthens the ecosystem and helps to save other species.
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Think thylacine now and how the "theorists" maintain in earnest after nearly 75 years the species still "exists" without any documented trustworthy visual observations. What most of us as yet seem to forget we already live in our future past with the extinction threats a reality for a majority of wild animal and plant life and we require a change of our mind set from lamenting it, talking about it to changed behaviour in terms of us living on this Planet amongst so many other species and in so varied habitats and environments. Not Knowledge, but Action and Passion make that change. Just ask yourselves what can I bring to the table, that is doable, comes naturally to me and is part of that change and I can sustain that till the problem is fixed.
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
Think thylacine now and how the "theorists" maintain in earnest after nearly 75 years the species still "exists" without any documented trustworthy visual observations. What most of us as yet seem to forget we already live in our future past with the extinction threats a reality for a majority of wild animal and plant life and we require a change of our mind set from lamenting it, talking about it to changed behaviour in terms of us living on this Planet amongst so many other species and in so varied habitats and environments. Not Knowledge, but Action and Passion make that change. Just ask yourselves what can I bring to the table, that is doable, comes naturally to me and is part of that change and I can sustain that till the problem is fixed.
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Well said ! We do collectively need a paradigm shift from words to deeds.
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
I think you've touched on something very pertinent with this comment and unfortunately I think it is a very common phenomena in conservation interventions all over the world. Sometimes intracountry efforts to save a species can be just as difficult (if not more) and prone to failure than intercountry interventions.

This is especially the case when there are strong and entrenched regional divides / cultural differences and / or competing institutions which get in the way of collaboration. These factors ultimately all have strong potential to delay progress in or even derail projects.
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I'm thinking about China, Vietnam, and the Yangtze Giant Softshell Turtle.

~Thylo
 
ThylacineAlive said:
I'm thinking about China, Vietnam, and the Yangtze Giant Softshell Turtle.

~Thylo
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Yes, that is another good example of this problem but unfortunately this phenomena isn't limited to South-East Asia and there are numerous other examples of this occurring in Africa and Latin America too.

I think it really underscores the need for the inclusion of social science into conservation interventions to improve efficacy and (if this is even possible) to avoid these problems from emerging in the first place.
 
Has there been any updates on that plan to bring wild rhinos into a protected area?
 
seeing reports on social media of a sumatran rhino birth at Way Kambas.

It’s a girl: Super rare Sumatran rhino born in captive-breeding center

"The female rhino was born March 24 at the Sumatran Rhino Sanctuary in Way Kambas National Park in Sumatra’s Lampung province, according to a statement from Indonesia’s environment ministry. The calf is the offspring of Andatu, a male born at the sanctuary in 2012, and Rosa, a female captured from the wild in 2005. The ministry has yet to announce the name of the newborn." Source Above
 
Skukuza said:
seeing reports on social media of a sumatran rhino birth at Way Kambas.

It’s a girl: Super rare Sumatran rhino born in captive-breeding center

"The female rhino was born March 24 at the Sumatran Rhino Sanctuary in Way Kambas National Park in Sumatra’s Lampung province, according to a statement from Indonesia’s environment ministry. The calf is the offspring of Andatu, a male born at the sanctuary in 2012, and Rosa, a female captured from the wild in 2005. The ministry has yet to announce the name of the newborn." Source Above
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This is excellent news, both that Rosa has finally carried a calf fullterm and given birth, and that the calf is female. (Another male would just add to the close relatedness of all the males they already have). I wonder if her pregnancies have been conceived naturally or by A.I. though...

They do now desperately really need an unrelated male to breed with 'Delilah', born in 2016, so she is already eight years old now, and for this new baby when she is mature in a few years time. And why has her mother Ratu not had another calf after two born just four years apart?
 
Skukuza said:
seeing reports on social media of a sumatran rhino birth at Way Kambas.

It’s a girl: Super rare Sumatran rhino born in captive-breeding center

"The female rhino was born March 24 at the Sumatran Rhino Sanctuary in Way Kambas National Park in Sumatra’s Lampung province, according to a statement from Indonesia’s environment ministry. The calf is the offspring of Andatu, a male born at the sanctuary in 2012, and Rosa, a female captured from the wild in 2005. The ministry has yet to announce the name of the newborn." Source Above
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Good news, really good news in fact!

It just shows if we keep trying we can sometimes succeed and those involved will have learnt much from this for the future already.
 
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