Wild Life Sydney sydney wildlife world

Coquinguy

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has anyone here on the forum (interstate) heard the news? wildlife world has opened and in a big story covered by all the major news channels last week the war for customers between taronga and the aquarium/wildlife world is beginning to heat up.
i havent yet been to see it, hopefully ill get down there next week, so im not going to comment on any welfare concerns, etc...but id like to make a few points from the media coverage.
firstly, its only about $3 cheaper than taronga, even though taronga is a whole day experience and the aquarium is at best (and despite being australia's largest) only a few hours. in fact, the new wildlife park has been designed so visitors can 'do' australia's wildlife in less than 2 hours.
this is what annoys me. foreign visitors fine (as long as they dont want to see emus, kangaroos, dingoes or tasmanian devils which taronga has but ww doesnt), but domestic visitors i would like to see treated to a more thoughtful and contemplative wildlife experience. i havent seen the signage yet-i hope its educational. taronga's signage has received a massive overhaul in the last twelve months and i some of the new conservation messages are relatively 'hard-hitting' and focused on delivering meaningful messages-not just the 'how many egs does it lay'? variety.
the wildlife world immerses visitors in 9 'ecosystems'-all under glass. its already promoting its commitment to conservation breeding programs-does this include the single cassowary?
the new zoo, as well as the aquarium and sydney skywalk are all run by the publically listed sydney attractions group, so even though there is a conservation fund set up the zoo has to show a return to shareholders too. if push comes to shove, what will come first? theyve obviously done there market research but considering their construction budget has doubled there will certainly be alot of profits to remake.
critics of the elephant import have questioned the value of zoo conservation but at the end of the day, all of australia's zoos are non-profit, running to the world zoo charter, so you can be sure that their motivations remain alot more genuine and their efforts undoubtably more comprehensive.
my next observation is that the new park has opened, at full price, but its missing most of its animals who are still in quarantine. and finally, its promoted as having 6000 animals, 2000 more than taronga. but that includes ants and invertebrates!
this isnt the first wildlife attraction to threaten taronga of late. the boutique zoo is the latest in a string of wildlife attractions that have tried and then failed, including a lion safari park and australia's wildlife world at wonderland. the aquarium remains taronga's most enduring commercial rival, but they have an interesting relationship, as both cooperate on research projects and are both part of arazpa.
personally, i think taronga will come out on top. its currently preparing an elephantine sized promotional campaign to capture the public's attention on the elephant import, an issue which has a 90% approval rating here in nsw and enjoys widespread support from the major papers. they will be here in time for christmas and will arrive on the back of taronga's 90th birthday celebrations in october.
finally, taronga has a much more comprehensive native fauna collection, but i think the looming threat to the aquarium remains the 2008 opening of the southern oceans exhibit at taronga. with no delays or costly legal battles the new precinct looks set to open on time and when it does will possibly represent the biggest and best display of its kind in the southern hemisphere. with a huge capacity seal theatre, massive walkthrough aviares, underwater viewing stations for seals and penguins, leopard seals and the antarctic studies centre and i presume at least some small marine exhibits, all set against the backdrop of the harbour, i think this could challenge the aquariums niche.
taronga didnt want the wildlife world to open, perceiving it as a major rival. but taronga's director has since declared its time to get on with it. interestingly, the aquariums management have already conceded that taronga is a bigger threat to their organisation. we will all just have to wait and see...
 
i was very annoyed my sciences teacher were invited to opening and didnt tell me, i am fuming lol, any way yea i still want to see that new zoo, it looks quite nice from the pics, but still ill take taronga anyday.
 
hey everyone
had the 'pleasure' of checking out the new wildlife world on saturday and all i will say is that it was extremely disappointing. considering they spent $50 million creating it i guess i was expecting a bit more.
since its opening it has received a rather mixed response; there have been ongoing issues with animals not being on display (the empty 'flight canyon') and persistent welfare concerns.
architecturally the whole thing looks amazing from the outside-the structure, including 200 tonnes of soil, is essentially floating on the wharf and stands over 3 stories high. the mesh roof which was designed in reference to witchetty grubs certainly looks great. but from the moment you enter this boutique zoo the commercial imperatives begin to leap out at you.
for starters, and i think this is clever, its not a linked, one ticket system for both the aquarium and zoo, although this is constantly marketed as a feature. in fact, to get in to both is $37. more than taronga and a price that tends to leave a bad taste in your mouth...
once inside, your first glimpse is of the 2 storey high butterfly sanctuary. this looks amazing, but you dont get to go inside. next come the invertabrates, with identical exhibits at kid and adult height. the insects are also the heavyweights behind the 'biggest collection of native animals in sydney' campaign, as you could almost count the number of vertebrates on the hands of yourself and a few friends too.
the whole thing is interpreted well, but the way of delivering the info is really bad. it uses plasma tv screens instead of you typical signage, which seems like a good idea but yu have to wait about 5 minutes for the short movies to stop playing before you find out whats in the exhibit.
after the invertabrates comes the reptiles, and here i did like the idea of giving the animals alot of spece. all too often i think reptiles are dispayed in too small tanks;they seemed to have used alot of imagination here but all the same are let down by the proliferation of what should be behind-the-scenes keeping parafenalia that you can see...tops of tanks, wire, electrical cables, lighting systems. in the flight canyon-the irrigation system.
i should point out that this place is not an immersion experience. at all times you are on one side of the glass and the animals on the other. the flight canyon was terrible. it had two emerald dobes, a satin bowerbird, a sacred kingfisher and a few lorikeets. this aviary should have been a showcase of our avian fauna, instead its so dull. but the plants are nice.
after flight canyon its another trek up a long, winding ramp to the nocturnal section, where its so dark you cannot see a thing. apparently there were quolls, bilbies and possums. i did see a wombat though, sleeping.
by this stage your up on the roof again, where you get a great view of the service corridors above flight canyon. theres an artificial cave for the display of aboriginal culture, and an outside rockface for rock wallabies, echidnas and bridled nailtailed wallabies. the red dirt and termite mounds looked great, but we couldnt see any animals. after that came the cassowary, two koalas and a 'canopy' view of the butterflies and that was it. the walkway was one kilometre long. its 21 degrees inside. all four of us love animals but there was no way this place could sustain anyones interest for more than an hour. we took and hour and a quarter...
personally i dont know why taronga felt so threatened. had i flown all the way from north america or japan and just paid a small fortune to see some native wildlife and all i got was a rhinoceros cockroach then id be on the first ferry across the harbour. this place is something i think you need to see, but its not an engaging celebration of native wildlife. the aquarium concept of displaying things in tanks is great, but i think most aussies are used to zoos who have a more imaginative approach to showcasing our fauna.
i thought this place shaped up to be pretty disappointing. i wonder if it will last...
 
well if they want finches in there then they have to get rid of the kingfisher, lol
 
what about the rock wallabies, i heard there was much contorvery about the size of that enclousure.

did u get pics?
 
it was crap

the rock wallaby enclosure is on the top floor, beneath the mesh roof. it is one of the largest enclosures and features lots of red dirt, termite mounds, desert plants and boulders. you view it through glass from three different angles. in the corridor behind you is the aboriginal cave for dreamtime story telling, and if you want to fork out $20+ you can get a photo of a snake and a pretty girl!
artificial rock forms the backdrop, but almost ironically given the small space that the entire wildlife world fits into, the rock wallabies were too far away to see properly!!!
whilst were kind of on the subject of artificial rock too, the rock work in the cassowary and butterfly exhibits is horrible.
other things which annoyed me included that the donation box for the conservation agency wildlife world is partnering was jammed, and the absolute abundance of kiosks along the way. i guess just like in the real outback, where you might get thirsty!!!
 
hey zooyouth
there are plenty of zoos that keep kingfishersin aviaries with finches and other small softbills.
at taronga, the asian wetland features kingfishers and java sparrows, the rainforest aviary, wollemi and bush birds all mix them too.
flight canyon at sww could have done with some rails on the ground, perhaps some pygmy geese, a few more fruit doves, etc, just to liven things up a bit.
 
yeah but its not adviasaible they are ok with teh Larger Finches like Java Sparrows.

Yeah i think really they should scrap the Kingfisher they are way to aggressive, Rails eat eggs so maybe they are a no no and they are very secretive. a couple of Pairs of Eccies they need and a flock of Diamond Firetail Finches. And they need Ibis and heaps of other birds to liven it up, we have heaps of birds in our smaller aviaries (with out overcowding)
 
see the post in the nsw forum, i found out info the other day that this place hasnt been attraccting the number of tourists it expected :0
 
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