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Nandito said:
Concept designs of "Jagat Satwa Nusantara" has been unveiled. It won't really be a single mega-park focused on their animals, but a connected facility under the new brand.

Bird Park
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Komodo Museum (Without "Reptile Park" in their name for some reason)
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Dunia Air Tawar and Serangga (Seemingly merging the two facilities into one building)
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These facilities will launch their soft opening from 11 to 17 of August with limited visit quota (100 max/day) and will be fully opened on August 19.

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New DATS has to be the most interesting in term of design and concept. In the new Komodo Museum, it seems that visitors have to enter a single entrance into the museum and then into the Reptile Park (If they still going to have that). I honestly don't have that much problem with them phasing out their Reptile Park as long as they make their museum interesting with not only just Indonesian reptiles and amphibians, but also native and endemic mammals and birds like before 2014.

Really hoped to see the new Bird Park to be on par with Bird Paradise, collection and exhibit wise. While I also hoped for the Dunia Air Tawar part of DATS to actually focus on interesting species, not a bunch of man-made morphs and deform- I mean "short-bodied and unique" fishes.

I also really want them to have specific zones based on geography similar to River Wonders (I.e Amazon, Congo, Mekong and a new, much larger Indonesian province-based exhibits), they also need a geographicly-themed mixed species tanks rather than singular species exhibits to save up space for new species.

By the look of it, I guess there won't be a "mammals park" for atleast a while. But, I got a feeling that they will still have a mammal since binturong isn't a really a random animal to be put on their logo. I swear to God if it's another Jakarta Aquarium Safari area situation...
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As for DATS, I hope they also acquire subtropical/cold-water faunas like sturgeons, paddlefish, largemouth bass, Chinese giant salamander, wels catfish and northern pike. They did housed some of them except for the salamander, but some didn't fare well and die in a matter of a year or less. As for sawfish, don't even hope of them bringing them back again, since they're now Appendix I, and utmost care is required since there isn't much sawfish left in the world.

But, DATS could go for something else, like housing bull sharks or speartooth sharks if they can acquire them, or create a mini marine exhibit as an extra.
 
Fargusno said:
But, DATS could go for something else, like housing bull sharks or speartooth sharks if they can acquire them, or create a mini marine exhibit as an extra.
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I prefer they went with saltwater touch pool with bamboo sharks and coral catsharks as well as with sea stars, sea cucumbers, and horseshoe crab, kinda like in River Wonders. Since DAT also somewhat include brackish ecosystem, I say they should have that touch pool in a hypothetical brackish-themed exhibit.

Fargusno said:
Probably the mammals will be in the Bird Park's aviaries, as additionals. Bird Paradise did housed some mammals in their aviaries like wallabies and lemurs.
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The difference is that Bird Paradise's mammals are a part of a larger bird exhibit instead of a specific mammal-only zone. Also, their choice of mammal species are still fitting and not out-of-place in their geographicly-themed exhibits, their lemur and wallaby are part of the Nyungwe Forest and Australian Outback respectively.

There's no guarantee that the new Bird Park or others would do that instead of building a mammal-only zone that they later over-advertised and prioritized like in Jakarta Aquarium. Their choice of binturong as one of their mascot, if it actually mean anything, could be really worrying if done wrong.

On a positive note, if they insisted to have mammals early, they should display their mouse-deers, flying fox, and Prevost's squirrels in the walkthrough aviary, since they're quite compatible and still fitting with the Indonesia-themed aviary. I don't know where they should display their muntjacs, but I'd say mix it in a exhibit with rhinoceros or wreathed hornbills. If they have a sun conure or macaw walkthrough aviary, they should get green iguanas in there. Aside from maybe some turtles and tortoises, I honestly couldn't think of other realistic non-avian mixing ideas, but you get my point.
 
Nandito said:
I prefer they went with saltwater touch pool with bamboo sharks and coral catsharks as well as with sea stars, sea cucumbers, and horseshoe crab, kinda like in River Wonders. Since DAT also somewhat include brackish ecosystem, I say they should have that touch pool in a hypothetical brackish-themed exhibit.


The difference is that Bird Paradise's mammals are a part of a larger bird exhibit instead of a specific mammal-only zone. Also, their choice of mammal species are still fitting and not out-of-place in their geographicly-themed exhibits, their lemur and wallaby are part of the Nyungwe Forest and Australian Outback respectively.

There's no guarantee that the new Bird Park or others would do that instead of building a mammal-only zone that they later over-advertised and prioritized like in Jakarta Aquarium. Their choice of binturong as one of their mascot, if it actually mean anything, could be really worrying if done wrong.

On a positive note, if they insisted to have mammals early, they should display their mouse-deers, flying fox, and Prevost's squirrels in the walkthrough aviary, since they're quite compatible and still fitting with the Indonesia-themed aviary. I don't know where they should display their muntjacs, but I'd say mix it in a exhibit with rhinoceros or wreathed hornbills. If they have a sun conure or macaw walkthrough aviary, they should get green iguanas in there. Aside from maybe some turtles and tortoises, I honestly couldn't think of other realistic non-avian mixing ideas, but you get my point.
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Saltwater touch pool works too, probably as a replacement to the godawful freshwater touch pool with carps and red-eared sliders.
 
Nandito said:
I prefer they went with saltwater touch pool with bamboo sharks and coral catsharks as well as with sea stars, sea cucumbers, and horseshoe crab, kinda like in River Wonders. Since DAT also somewhat include brackish ecosystem, I say they should have that touch pool in a hypothetical brackish-themed exhibit.


The difference is that Bird Paradise's mammals are a part of a larger bird exhibit instead of a specific mammal-only zone. Also, their choice of mammal species are still fitting and not out-of-place in their geographicly-themed exhibits, their lemur and wallaby are part of the Nyungwe Forest and Australian Outback respectively.

There's no guarantee that the new Bird Park or others would do that instead of building a mammal-only zone that they later over-advertised and prioritized like in Jakarta Aquarium. Their choice of binturong as one of their mascot, if it actually mean anything, could be really worrying if done wrong.

On a positive note, if they insisted to have mammals early, they should display their mouse-deers, flying fox, and Prevost's squirrels in the walkthrough aviary, since they're quite compatible and still fitting with the Indonesia-themed aviary. I don't know where they should display their muntjacs, but I'd say mix it in a exhibit with rhinoceros or wreathed hornbills. If they have a sun conure or macaw walkthrough aviary, they should get green iguanas in there. Aside from maybe some turtles and tortoises, I honestly couldn't think of other realistic non-avian mixing ideas, but you get my point.
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I just hope the binturong is not a photo prop, probably a part of the Bird Park but kept in a separate exhibit. They're not bird-compatible since they might prey upon smaller birds and even bird eggs.
 
Jagat Satwa Nusantara has officially been opened today. Only the Bird Park seems to be opened, with Komodo Museum and Dunia Air Tawar being persumebly be opened later due to some issues.

Good news, there seems to be somewhat of a planting in the walkthrough aviaries, though not as significant as hoped. Each smaller aviaries also have quite a natural design.

Here's are some interesting stuffs that the new park has to offer.
  • There's a partridge and quail complex called "Plaza Puyuh" (Partridge Plaza) or "Plaza Puyuh Gonggong" (Arborophila Plaza) in the new Bird Park, with inhabitants being the crested partridge, grey-breasted partridge, chestnut-bellied partridge, and king quail morph (Seriously?). There's apparently only one aviary in the Plaza.
  • Another plaza called "Plaza Namdur" (Bowerbird Plaza) has also been built, though sadly not going to display the actual bowerbirds.
  • Bird Park finally have a elevated pathway called Skywalk Omohada, providing much more closer view of their more interesting free-flying birds, which tend to perch up in the canopy. I'm not aware if this is exclusive to one walkthrough aviary or not, which I prefer the latter.
  • Other areas include Maleo Amphitheater for the Park's bird show and Resto Bantimurang, where it is possible for visitors to dine in while also taking a look on the Park's free-roaming water birds.
  • The main walkthrough aviary has officially been named "Greater Sunda", encompassing Sumatra, Kalimantan, Java, and Bali.
  • The eastern Indonesia walkthrough aviary has officially been named "Wallacea and Sahul", encompassing Sulawesi, Lesser Sunda Islands, Maluku Islands, Papua, and persumebly also Australia.
Meanwhile, the Park somewhat also upgraded in term of species.
  • Birds-of-Prey that I'm aware of are Javan hawk-eagle, white-bellied sea eagle, changeable hawk-eagle, and additionaly rhinoceros hornbill and large-billed crow.
  • Silver pheasants, crested partridge, grey-breasted partridge, chestnut-bellied partridge, king quail, great argus, Java peafowl, and Indian peafowls are one of the Park's confirmed galliformes.
  • Australian pelicans, Asian wooly-necked stork, black swans, magpie goose, glossy Ibis, masked lapwing, and pied stilt are one of the Park's confirmed water birds, as well as the Chinese goose.
  • Sulphur-crested cockatoo, Tanimbar corella, chattering lorikeet, and eclectus parrot are the Park's confirmed parrots.
  • Helmeted friarbird, Bali myna, and black-naped oriole are one of the Park's confirmed passerines.
  • The Park's maleo apparently going to have somewhat sandy or beachy aviary design, a fitting one for the species.
Complaints
  • Dissapointly, the silver pheasants and Indian peafowls appears to be remaining in the Wallacea and Sahul aviary. I genuinely wanted this aviary to represent eastern Indonesian birds, with flexibility on displaying Australian birds.
  • The single aviary at Partridge Plaza is just too small to house four partridge and quail species. I don't know what's the problem with having multiple aviaries, each with one species. It honestly not all to different from those chicken or pigeon aviary in of those mini zoos with the way it looks with.
  • Seriously, are engagements with exotic pet YouTubers and influencers that appealing? Why the leucistic or whatever tf morph king quail? I mean really, compare this: A natural coloration (Or as it called in the business, normal morph) sometimes with vibrant marking and interesting color variation, or just plain white, black, yellow, grey, and red. I know that it depend on one's personal taste, but in my opinion, man-made morphs really have no place in a conservation-based institution, which most Indonesian zoos and aquariums claimed to be.

Suggestion
The main problem is space issue. I'm aware that this place being the "Bird Paradise" of Indonesia is unrealistic, but they need to phase out some species or build smaller aviaries for smaller birds to atleast be somewhat better.

Issue one:
  • I propose the idea of a "Pheasant Plaza" or "Pheasant Complex". Indonesia has quite a large pheasant-keeping community with some interesting pheasant species that TMII could get a hand on. While the Indian peafowls might be better to be displayed as a free-roaming species, like in a specific area like some sort of "Peafowl Park".
Issue two:
  • Definitely the most infuriating thing that came from Jagat Satwa Nusantara so far. Like I said, it would've been better to have multiple aviaries for the specific partridge and quail species. Which makes each species much more unique and interesting in their own way, rather than another chicken with the way they display them.
Issue three:
  • Definitely get a normal king quail, the male of the species have interesting coloration that most ordinary visitors might possibly still found appealing. It honestly really just my personal taste, never liked the idea of domestic morph variant being in a official zoo and aquarium as a conservation-based institution, not a themed park.

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One the Bird Park's most interesting species is the Rote myzomela (Myzomela irianawidodoae), a type of honeyeater endemic to the island of Rote. The species are known for being named after the first lady of Indonesia, Iriana Joko Widodo. The Bird Park is currently the only holder of the living specimen in Indonesia and might even be in the world, with them only holding one individual. The species is currently off-display.

 
The Park's northern cassowary is also among the remaining species, likely the same for their southern cassowary. I'm not aware about the fate of the Park's lone ostrich, which I had no speculation.

Some returning species include black hornbills, wreathed hornbills, crested fireback, and also sun conure, which seems to occupy the Wallacea and Sahul aviary.

Another of the many very interesting addition the Bird Park had acquired are the wompoo fruit doves, persumebly free-flying in the Wallacea and Sahul aviary. Definitely one of the few species and decision of JSN that I'm a fan of.

Notably, the Bird Park has another new collection, the Harris's hawk. It's part of the bird show and will remain so for a while. Not really much information is given on the hawk's origin, though it's possible that it might came from the Indonesian falconry group FoF (Fellowship of Falconer), given that the association's head, Fardhan Khan, has a position in the Bird Park's management.

Complaint
I feel like Wallacea and Sahul was planned to house the Park's non-native birds, which I don't support. Honestly, why didn't they use the pigeon walkthrough aviary for the conure? I feel like it would've been a much better idea. Plus, it would definitely be a good spot for visitors to took a picture and vlogs, if you're talking about the visitor's appeal.

Recently, I found it important for each exhibit or zone in zoo and aquaria to have it's distinct identity. For example, this part should exclusively had species from this part of the world or this biome or ecosystem, not mashing very different type of species, geography wise, into one exhibit without explanation. If it's the case, then it would be meaningless to put it as a assigned exhibit or zone, so what would be difference the difference between them and a normal pet collector?

Eastern Indonesian birds, aside from parrots, had minor representation in Bird Parks (Aside from Bali Bird Park) and zoos in Indonesia, which are dominant with cockatoos, several popular species of parrots and hornbills, peafowls, and well-known exotic birds like macaws, conures, and mandarin ducks. Since I really wanted this new eastern Indonesia aviary to show more birds native to that region and have their own special and unique exhibit, let's say that I was very disappointed and I feel like there's no changes from the previous brand, it's just in the name.

Honestly, at this point, if Aviary Park Indonesia didn't cook well, the Indonesian zoo and aquarium brand is just a absolute entertainment-oriented mess.

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Salt Merchant said:
The Park's northern cassowary is also among the remaining species, likely the same for their southern cassowary. I'm not aware about the fate of the Park's lone ostrich, which I had no speculation.

Some returning species include black hornbills, wreathed hornbills, crested fireback, and also sun conure, which seems to occupy the Wallacea and Sahul aviary.

Another of the many very interesting addition the Bird Park had acquired are the wompoo fruit doves, persumebly free-flying in the Wallacea and Sahul aviary. Definitely one of the few species and decision of JSN that I'm a fan of.

Notably, the Bird Park has another new collection, the Harris's hawk. It's part of the bird show and will remain so for a while. Not really much information is given on the hawk's origin, though it's possible that it might came from the Indonesian falconry group FoF (Fellowship of Falconer), given that the association's head, Fardhan Khan, has a position in the Bird Park's management.

Complaint
I feel like Wallacea and Sahul was planned to house the Park's non-native birds, which I don't support. Honestly, why didn't they use the pigeon walkthrough aviary for the conure? I feel like it would've been a much better idea. Plus, it would definitely be a good spot for visitors to took a picture and vlogs, if you're talking about the visitor's appeal.

Recently, I found it important for each exhibit or zone in zoo and aquaria to have it's distinct identity. For example, this part should exclusively had species from this part of the world or this biome or ecosystem, not mashing very different type of species, geography wise, into one exhibit without explanation. If it's the case, then it would be meaningless to put it as a assigned exhibit or zone, so what would be difference the difference between them and a normal pet collector?

Eastern Indonesian birds, aside from parrots, had minor representation in Bird Parks (Aside from Bali Bird Park) and zoos in Indonesia, which are dominant with cockatoos, several popular species of parrots and hornbills, peafowls, and well-known exotic birds like macaws, conures, and mandarin ducks. Since I really wanted this new eastern Indonesia aviary to show more birds native to that region and have their own special and unique exhibit, let's say that I was very disappointed and I feel like there's no changes from the previous brand, it's just in the name.

Honestly, at this point, if Aviary Park Indonesia didn't cook well, the Indonesian zoo and aquarium brand is just a absolute entertainment-oriented mess.

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I still remember when Dunia Air Tawar's head was Rian Dietra, a former SWA staff who had an interest on native fish species, and when I went there back in 2019, many of the collections were improved and most of them are native/endemic fishes that not many people know like Giuris margaritacea and Osteochilus kelabau. There was also a signage for Bearded worm goby AFAIK but they were off-display. As of now, Dunia Air Tawar is no longer in his management and it seems it will be revitalized. Let's see how this and Taman Reptil in the future will do.

And I'd like to visit the new Taman Burung one day and give my review on it, despite some of your disappointments towards it. Speaking of the ostrich, it may have been died or probably still off-display until it gets a better exhibit. And as for the new waterfowl exhibit there, the lake is noticibly shallower and there's no more lesser adjutants. And of course, no more pelican feeding except during certain times, which means no more me getting wedgies from pelicans again like what happened to me back in 2013.
 
Fargusno said:
I still remember when Dunia Air Tawar's head was Rian Dietra, a former SWA staff who had an interest on native fish species, and when I went there back in 2019, many of the collections were improved and most of them are native/endemic fishes that not many people know like Giuris margaritacea and Osteochilus kelabau. There was also a signage for Bearded worm goby AFAIK but they were off-display. As of now, Dunia Air Tawar is no longer in his management and it seems it will be revitalized. Let's see how this and Taman Reptil in the future will do.
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There's might be some re-landscaping and re-modelling into a "modern" park, no idea how they're handling the layout and exhibitions of DATS, if there's any. With how the Bird Park turned out to be, don't expect me having ambitious hopes for DATS and the Komodo Museum.

Fargusno said:
And I'd like to visit the new Taman Burung one day and give my review on it, despite some of your disappointments towards it. Speaking of the ostrich, it may have been died or probably still off-display until it gets a better exhibit. And as for the new waterfowl exhibit there, the lake is noticibly shallower and there's no more lesser adjutants. And of course, no more pelican feeding except during certain times, which means no more me getting wedgies from pelicans again like what happened to me back in 2013.
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You do what you do, but just so you know that I'm firm in my belief and thoughts on Indonesian zoos and aquaria. It doesn't matter for me if there's animals or not, what's important is that they actually try hard to be a actual modern zoo, not as another tourist destination or theme park. Most Indonesian zoo and aquarium think entertainment first, not the collection, exhibit design, and sometimes even welfare and conservation. Most, if not all, zoo managers and aspiring zoo managers think that zoos and aquariums are mostly just a fun family destination trip and a place for people to only get the "interaction" with the wildlife, the wildlife and not only the farm animals at the petting zoos.

Yes there's education and yes there might be conservation projects here and there, but sometimes you need know what impression you're going to give to visitors when they left. With how Indonesian zoos and aquarias presented and branded themselves, also due to YouTubers and e-celebrities influence, it's very often that visitors, especially children, leaving not with the knowledge they got or with awareness of the protection, conservation, and proper care of wildlife, but they leave with their mind thinking "hmm, I like to play with that one", "hmm, I want to feed that one", "hmm, I want to pose with that one for my social media", or "hmm, I like to own one as a pet".

Just take a few minute of your time and read this blogpost, then analyze what happened in this case:
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For the Lake, well to be frank, I did find it enjoyable minus the Chinese gooses. Don't know what will they do with the lesser adjutants, though I'd say have atleast 4-5 around roaming around the park. The ratite exhibit from what I see aren't really significantly different from before, but things might change in a few months.

In conclusion, Jagat Satwa Nusantara is definitely on my list of "I need to see it for myself" type of zoo, like Lembang Park and Zoo before I visit that place. It's honestly came down to space issue in my opinion, they can't possibly get the best of anything if your're only 6 ha. But, still, they could choose to do the greatest thing even with that space, and they didn't.
 
Salt Merchant said:
There's might be some re-landscaping and re-modelling into a "modern" park, no idea how they're handling the layout and exhibitions of DATS, if there's any. With how the Bird Park turned out to be, don't expect me having ambitious hopes for DATS and the Komodo Museum.


You do what you do, but just so you know that I'm firm in my belief and thoughts on Indonesian zoos and aquaria. It doesn't matter for me if there's animals or not, what's important is that they actually try hard to be a actual modern zoo, not as another tourist destination or theme park. Most Indonesian zoo and aquarium think entertainment first, not the collection, exhibit design, and sometimes even welfare and conservation. Most, if not all, zoo managers and aspiring zoo managers think that zoos and aquariums are mostly just a fun family destination trip and a place for people to only get the "interaction" with the wildlife, the wildlife and not only the farm animals at the petting zoos.

Yes there's education and yes there might be conservation projects here and there, but sometimes you need know what impression you're going to give to visitors when they left. With how Indonesian zoos and aquarias presented and branded themselves, also due to YouTubers and e-celebrities influence, it's very often that visitors, especially children, leaving not with the knowledge they got or with awareness of the protection, conservation, and proper care of wildlife, but they leave with their mind thinking "hmm, I like to play with that one", "hmm, I want to feed that one", "hmm, I want to pose with that one for my social media", or "hmm, I like to own one as a pet".

Just take a few minute of your time and read this blogpost, then analyze what happened in this case:
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For the Lake, well to be frank, I did find it enjoyable minus the Chinese gooses. Don't know what will they do with the lesser adjutants, though I'd say have atleast 4-5 around roaming around the park. The ratite exhibit from what I see aren't really significantly different from before, but things might change in a few months.

In conclusion, Jagat Satwa Nusantara is definitely on my list of "I need to see it for myself" type of zoo, like Lembang Park and Zoo before I visit that place. It's honestly came down to space issue in my opinion, they can't possibly get the best of anything if your're only 6 ha. But, still, they could choose to do the greatest thing even with that space, and they didn't.
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I think lesser adjutants are too dangerous to be left roaming since they're pretty much smaller version of marabou storks and one almost pecked my butt back in 2013, but thankfully they were frightened by the pelicans
 
A update that might upset some people, the free-roaming riverine area apparently had some new and returning additions. Several little black cormorants are present in the area, while the lesser adjutants has returned to the Park. This addition definitely make the riverine area much more alive that previously, though with one minus.

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It's worth noting that lesser adjutants can get very rowdy if left unchecked, which would scares off some visitors. I proposed an idea of building a small rock exhibit for the storks, similar to Taman Safari Bogor. It would still be located in the riverine area and I would want it to be a bit bigger than it's Taman Safari counterpart.

If there's no space, then they should build a small island for the storks that is separate from the riverine area, which would have less chance for the storks to come close with visitors if the exhibit works well.

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Salt Merchant said:
A update that might upset some people, the free-roaming riverine area apparently had some new and returning additions. Several little black cormorants are present in the area, while the lesser adjutants has returned to the Park. This addition definitely make the riverine area much more alive that previously, though with one minus.

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It's worth noting that lesser adjutants can get very rowdy if left unchecked, which would scares off some visitors. I proposed an idea of building a small rock exhibit for the storks, similar to Taman Safari Bogor. It would still be located in the riverine area and I would want it to be a bit bigger than it's Taman Safari counterpart.

If there's no space, then they should build a small island for the storks that is separate from the riverine area, which would have less chance for the storks to come close with visitors if the exhibit works well.

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This is just repeating the pre-renovation phase, but glad that there's no more free-feeding for pelicans (goodbye to getting wedgie'd by pelicans)

I hope they can move some of the magpie geese from the Wallace/Sahul Dome here or add some cattle egrets or oriental darter to the mix. If not, maybe some whistling ducks? LPZ has a good mix of waterfowls but the exhibit is too tiny for the lots of them.
 
Fargusno said:
I hope they can move some of the magpie geese from the Wallace/Sahul Dome here or add some cattle egrets or oriental darter to the mix. If not, maybe some whistling ducks? LPZ has a good mix of waterfowls but the exhibit is too tiny for the lots of them.
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When I think about it, I do wonder why they didn't add the magpie goose and whistling ducks to the Riverine. It would be a fitting addition and had been attempted before by Taman Safari Bogor with the goose. Plus, it would finally replace the Chinese goose with a actual wild goose in the park.

I'm not sure if egrets or herons might do well free-roaming outside the dome, as I'm not aware if it had attempted before in Indonesian zoos.

I honestly wished the Bird Park had a more modern and better ideas and plans to use the limited space they have, I agree that some aspects of the new park barely changes (I.e non-Eastern Indonesian birds at the Sahul aviary), while some "upgrade" just seems more like a massive downgrade (I.e Partridge Plaza). I just hoped that they will actually doing something great with Komodo Museum and Dunia Air Tawar, though I'm increasingly getting pessimistic about it.
 
Salt Merchant said:
When I think about it, I do wonder why they didn't add the magpie goose and whistling ducks to the Riverine. It would be a fitting addition and had been attempted before by Taman Safari Bogor with the goose. Plus, it would finally replace the Chinese goose with a actual wild goose in the park.

I'm not sure if egrets or herons might do well free-roaming outside the dome, as I'm not aware if it had attempted before in Indonesian zoos.

I honestly wished the Bird Park had a more modern and better ideas and plans to use the limited space they have, I agree that some aspects of the new park barely changes (I.e non-Eastern Indonesian birds at the Sahul aviary), while some "upgrade" just seems more like a massive downgrade (I.e Partridge Plaza). I just hoped that they will actually doing something great with Komodo Museum and Dunia Air Tawar, though I'm increasingly getting pessimistic about it.
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You can hear the plans on Dunia Air Tawar here. Feel free to give it your two cents on it:

Some of mine:
- The entrance might be cleared off of exhibits and turned into an education center about prehistoric fishes with a Dunkleosteus replica
- I don't like the idea of getting rid of the roof. Why not replace it with glass?
- I really DO hope the new Arapaima exhibit looks superb, but yeah why not turning the back paludarium into a BIGASS biotope based on the Amazon river

As for the reptile park.. I'm both amazed and scared. Amazed that the preserved animals inside the Komodo building are no more and replaced by series of terrariums, but scared of the crocodile exhibit. This is not going to be another underwater view-less exhibit right? RIGHT?!
 
Fargusno said:
You can hear the plans on Dunia Air Tawar here. Feel free to give it your two cents on it:

Some of mine:
- The entrance might be cleared off of exhibits and turned into an education center about prehistoric fishes with a Dunkleosteus replica
- I don't like the idea of getting rid of the roof. Why not replace it with glass?
- I really DO hope the new Arapaima exhibit looks superb, but yeah why not turning the back paludarium into a BIGASS biotope based on the Amazon river

As for the reptile park.. I'm both amazed and scared. Amazed that the preserved animals inside the Komodo building are no more and replaced by series of terrariums, but scared of the crocodile exhibit. This is not going to be another underwater view-less exhibit right? RIGHT?!
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From that upload, here's the very long conclusion that I gather from each planned upgrades and some of my comments.
  • The idea of turning the lobby of DAT (That's what I called it) into some sort of a prehistoric sea diorama is definitely interesting. It could be a good opportunity for them to display a preserved coelacanth, like in SeaWorld Ancol. I also want to see them touching on other less known prehistoric fish and evolution other than just a dunkleosteus or potentially a megalodon replica, like the earlier jawless fish and lungfish. Not sure what they will do to the well-known tunnel tank, which I guess would be demolished to make space for the diorama.
  • The gourami exhibition turning into a "non-pisces" freshwater exhibition sounds great if done right. I'm glad the gouramis can finally moved from their very small tanks after many years. It was mentioned that it's planned to house axolotls, so I can see it becoming a amphibian and maybe small aquatic reptile exhibit, which sounds great. I definitely want to see it displaying salamanders and newts, as well as maybe like the African dwarf frogs.
  • The arowana complex will be turned into, as mentioned, a long 12-metres long tank(s) with dim lighting, housing a "generally known" freshwater fish. That reminded me a bit of Jakarta Aquarium for some reason, but I kind of liked it. Though I'm still not quite sure if it is a collection of tanks or one single large tank, I'm quite worried that it was mentioned to have "general" fish, as it kinda imply it to be some sort of a random mixed freshwater tank similar to the Riverview tank in SeaWorld Ancol prior to the scaping. Again, not sure what they will do to this time to the arapaima pool, but it's best that they demolished them.
  • Visitors then went up through the escalator (So a one-way route into the next exhibition, minor upgrade), which is the first part of the "Riverstream" exhibit (The one that formerly had bagarius catfish and sturgeons). I'm guessing it to be a collection of scaped tanks with smaller fish, replicating a small river or creek ecosystem. Another great exhibit idea if done just right.
  • The main part of the "Riverstream" is the iconic waterfall exhibit. The good thing is that they planned to replace the artificial plants with actual plants, which is quite fantastic. I support their plan to removed the roof above the waterfall (Literally only parts of the roof above it, not the entirety of the roof), which, if raining, would make a great atmosphere especially with the live plants. Though I still understand your worry, some precautions will still be needed. Another interesting note, it's great that they're going to replace the kois with a more "Indonesian species", with mahseer being suggested.
  • Finally, although there's a very small chance they did it intentionally or even aware, they just granted my wish for a much larger Indonesian province-themed tanks in the revitalized DAT. Now that they have larger tanks, there's going to be a lot of possibilities for these exhibit. Still, I grew quite a liking for a large scaped tanks with smaller sized, but numerous species of native fish.
  • The archerfish pool, as almost perfect as it already is, probably won't see much of a drastic changes aside from better air circulation in the room.
  • Not really much information given about what they really planned for the original Nusantara Room. Though it was suggested that each tanks should have stones and gravel from the province it represented and also adding more tanks (Indonesia now has 37 provinces as of 2023), so it somewhat implies that it will remain the same with atleast some upgrades and hopefuly a completed collection.
  • The large pools near the exit are going to be demolished and turned into a "River Monster" tank, which would've house their arapaimas. Though it sounds great at first, I feared that it won't be a South America-themed tank but instead a chaotic mix of various large freshwater fish. I just really hoped that it's not going to be the case, especially due to how popular South American fish has been in the Indonesian aquarium fish trade. We need more geographically-accurate freshwater tank in Indonesian aquaria, which is just so rare compared to the abundant numbers of messy mixed species tanks.

For the updates regarding the revitalization of the Komodo Museum, I do have some conclusions that I could gather and some comments as usual
  • Aside from some repainting, the iconic Komodo dragon building wouldn't have any drastic changes.
  • But, there would be massive changes to the interior of the building, which will turned the museum into a series of terrariums and vivariums. This is a great news, as it would gave TMII the chance of displaying small, native reptiles and amphibians in a beautifully planted terrarium or vivarium that are rarely or ever represented in Indonesian zoos. There's huge potentials for this new exhibit, I just hoped that they're doing it justice. Still happy that they decided to keep the "museum" in the building, with hopefuly better way of displaying the specimens.
  • The Park's Komodo dragons and crocodiles will be moved into new enclosures. Aside from the false gharials being planned to have a three meters deep pool, not much details given regarding this information, though I hoped these new enclosures will be a bit similar to the one at Bali Safari, which have the second best Komodo dragon enclosure and one the best crocodile enclosures in Indonesia.
With this upgrades, I'm predicting that It will be finished and reopened by atleast the end of the year. Though these plans sounds very promising, there's still quite a huge possibility that they will fumbled and make some even worse concept choices, like we see in the Bird Park. So, I'd say don't cling on your high hopes and excitements way to hard.
 
Salt Merchant said:
From that upload, here's the very long conclusion that I gather from each planned upgrades and some of my comments.
  • The idea of turning the lobby of DAT (That's what I called it) into some sort of a prehistoric sea diorama is definitely interesting. It could be a good opportunity for them to display a preserved coelacanth, like in SeaWorld Ancol. I also want to see them touching on other less known prehistoric fish and evolution other than just a dunkleosteus or potentially a megalodon replica, like the earlier jawless fish and lungfish. Not sure what they will do to the well-known tunnel tank, which I guess would be demolished to make space for the diorama.
  • The gourami exhibition turning into a "non-pisces" freshwater exhibition sounds great if done right. I'm glad the gouramis can finally moved from their very small tanks after many years. It was mentioned that it's planned to house axolotls, so I can see it becoming a amphibian and maybe small aquatic reptile exhibit, which sounds great. I definitely want to see it displaying salamanders and newts, as well as maybe like the African dwarf frogs.
  • The arowana complex will be turned into, as mentioned, a long 12-metres long tank(s) with dim lighting, housing a "generally known" freshwater fish. That reminded me a bit of Jakarta Aquarium for some reason, but I kind of liked it. Though I'm still not quite sure if it is a collection of tanks or one single large tank, I'm quite worried that it was mentioned to have "general" fish, as it kinda imply it to be some sort of a random mixed freshwater tank similar to the Riverview tank in SeaWorld Ancol prior to the scaping. Again, not sure what they will do to this time to the arapaima pool, but it's best that they demolished them.
  • Visitors then went up through the escalator (So a one-way route into the next exhibition, minor upgrade), which is the first part of the "Riverstream" exhibit (The one that formerly had bagarius catfish and sturgeons). I'm guessing it to be a collection of scaped tanks with smaller fish, replicating a small river or creek ecosystem. Another great exhibit idea if done just right.
  • The main part of the "Riverstream" is the iconic waterfall exhibit. The good thing is that they planned to replace the artificial plants with actual plants, which is quite fantastic. I support their plan to removed the roof above the waterfall (Literally only parts of the roof above it, not the entirety of the roof), which, if raining, would make a great atmosphere especially with the live plants. Though I still understand your worry, some precautions will still be needed. Another interesting note, it's great that they're going to replace the kois with a more "Indonesian species", with mahseer being suggested.
  • Finally, although there's a very small chance they did it intentionally or even aware, they just granted my wish for a much larger Indonesian province-themed tanks in the revitalized DAT. Now that they have larger tanks, there's going to be a lot of possibilities for these exhibit. Still, I grew quite a liking for a large scaped tanks with smaller sized, but numerous species of native fish.
  • The archerfish pool, as almost perfect as it already is, probably won't see much of a drastic changes aside from better air circulation in the room.
  • Not really much information given about what they really planned for the original Nusantara Room. Though it was suggested that each tanks should have stones and gravel from the province it represented and also adding more tanks (Indonesia now has 37 provinces as of 2023), so it somewhat implies that it will remain the same with atleast some upgrades and hopefuly a completed collection.
  • The large pools near the exit are going to be demolished and turned into a "River Monster" tank, which would've house their arapaimas. Though it sounds great at first, I feared that it won't be a South America-themed tank but instead a chaotic mix of various large freshwater fish. I just really hoped that it's not going to be the case, especially due to how popular South American fish has been in the Indonesian aquarium fish trade. We need more geographically-accurate freshwater tank in Indonesian aquaria, which is just so rare compared to the abundant numbers of messy mixed species tanks.

For the updates regarding the revitalization of the Komodo Museum, I do have some conclusions that I could gather and some comments as usual
  • Aside from some repainting, the iconic Komodo dragon building wouldn't have any drastic changes.
  • But, there would be massive changes to the interior of the building, which will turned the museum into a series of terrariums and vivariums. This is a great news, as it would gave TMII the chance of displaying small, native reptiles and amphibians in a beautifully planted terrarium or vivarium that are rarely or ever represented in Indonesian zoos. There's huge potentials for this new exhibit, I just hoped that they're doing it justice. Still happy that they decided to keep the "museum" in the building, with hopefuly better way of displaying the specimens.
  • The Park's Komodo dragons and crocodiles will be moved into new enclosures. Aside from the false gharials being planned to have a three meters deep pool, not much details given regarding this information, though I hoped these new enclosures will be a bit similar to the one at Bali Safari, which have the second best Komodo dragon enclosure and one the best crocodile enclosures in Indonesia.
With this upgrades, I'm predicting that It will be finished and reopened by atleast the end of the year. Though these plans sounds very promising, there's still quite a huge possibility that they will fumbled and make some even worse concept choices, like we see in the Bird Park. So, I'd say don't cling on your high hopes and excitements way to hard.
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Given the pace of their work, it might be sooner than expected. I heard the reptile park was supposed to reopen early this month (soft opening), but probably delayed due to the ASEAN summit or some additional work.
 
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Given the pace of their work, it might be sooner than expected. I heard the reptile park was supposed to reopen early this month (soft opening), but probably delayed due to the ASEAN summit or some additional work.
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Update: It is opening this month!
Probably Dunia Air Tawar and Serangga might be worked next after this.
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The Park has displayed their northern cassowary in a new enclosure. Interestingly, the cassowary have access to flowing waters. No full footage of the enclosure has been shared.

I still can't really moved on from the Wallacea blunder, what were they thinking? Such a missed potential. So far, the Bird Park is my least favorite of all the wildlife parks in TMII due to the things that I won't parroted again.

On a much positive note, an mother Bali myna has layed her pair of eggs. In the same post, the Park also display an Javan hawk-eagle hatchling, though I'm not sure if it's a new hatchling or the same hatchlings as before (Using old footages for some reason). Another interesting and very much fitting new species at the Park include the superb fruit dove, another wonderful addition to the rather shameful exhibit that is Wallacea.

Sources:
 
A look into newly reopened Komodo Museum, suprisingly looking quite decent.

The park is separated into several zones, like the Testudines Zone, Sauria Zone, and possibly other zones. There hasn't been much information regarding the fate Reptile Cave, though I hope that it's reused as something else, like an amphibian Zone.

Species displayed around the Park that I currently know include, with the possibility of other species:
  • Leopard tortoise
  • African spurred tortoise
  • Quince monitor
  • Cuban rock iguana
  • Crocodile monitor
  • Green iguana
  • Argentine black and white tegu
  • Weber's sailfin lizard
  • Asian forest tortoise
  • Saltwater crocodile (Including an albino)
The main highlight of the park for me is the HerpetoFauna. Despite it's uninspired and awful name, the content is amazing. The indoor section is all filled with beautifully planted terrariums with rainforest and desert themes, while also filled with actual interesting species, with the only minus being an leucistic diamondback rattlesnake.

Aside from that rattlesnake, another inhabitants and enclosures of the zone include:
  • Viper terrariums with trimeresurus insularis and tropidolaemus wagleri.
  • A couple of terrarium housing dart frogs, one mixed blue and dyeing poison dart frogs while the second contain only the green and black poison dart frog. This makes TMII the second zoo in Indonesia to currently display these frogs, while having a much better management of these frogs than Jakarta Aquarium.
  • A paludarium with yellow anaconda, so far the best anaconda exhibit in Indonesian zoos.
  • A mixed terrarium with carpet python and D'Albertis Python.
  • Several small, almost flat paludarium which one of them presumably houses earless monitor.
  • A desert-themed terrarium with a black spiny-tailed iguana
  • A Papua-themed paludarium with known inhabitants include pig-nosed turtles and Boeseman's rainbowfish. Presumably other species of reptiles and also fishes could be present there.
  • A terrarium for young Komodo dragons, couldn't comment much as I don't know about the exact size of the terrarium.
  • A paludariun with matamata. I don't know exactly the full-picture of that specific paludarium, but I'm guessing there's possibly another co-inhabintants or possibly even housed together with the anaconda, though this are still only speculations.
  • Other terrariums and paludariums.
I really hoped that we see smaller reptiles and amphibians being represented through HerpetoZone, similar to the amazing West Javan-biotope in Animalium.

Source:
 
Salt Merchant said:
A look into newly reopened Komodo Museum, suprisingly looking quite decent.

The park is separated into several zones, like the Testudines Zone, Sauria Zone, and possibly other zones. There hasn't been much information regarding the fate Reptile Cave, though I hope that it's reused as something else, like an amphibian Zone.

Species displayed around the Park that I currently know include, with the possibility of other species:
  • Leopard tortoise
  • African spurred tortoise
  • Quince monitor
  • Cuban rock iguana
  • Crocodile monitor
  • Green iguana
  • Argentine black and white tegu
  • Weber's sailfin lizard
  • Asian forest tortoise
  • Saltwater crocodile (Including an albino)
The main highlight of the park for me is the HerpetoFauna. Despite it's uninspired and awful name, the content is amazing. The indoor section is all filled with beautifully planted terrariums with rainforest and desert themes, while also filled with actual interesting species, with the only minus being an leucistic diamondback rattlesnake.

Aside from that rattlesnake, another inhabitants and enclosures of the zone include:
  • Viper terrariums with trimeresurus insularis and tropidolaemus wagleri.
  • A couple of terrarium housing dart frogs, one mixed blue and dyeing poison dart frogs while the second contain only the green and black poison dart frog. This makes TMII the second zoo in Indonesia to currently display these frogs, while having a much better management of these frogs than Jakarta Aquarium.
  • A paludarium with yellow anaconda, so far the best anaconda exhibit in Indonesian zoos.
  • A mixed terrarium with carpet python and D'Albertis Python.
  • Several small, almost flat paludarium which one of them presumably houses earless monitor.
  • A desert-themed terrarium with a black spiny-tailed iguana
  • A Papua-themed paludarium with known inhabitants include pig-nosed turtles and Boeseman's rainbowfish. Presumably other species of reptiles and also fishes could be present there.
  • A terrarium for young Komodo dragons, couldn't comment much as I don't know about the exact size of the terrarium.
  • A paludariun with matamata. I don't know exactly the full-picture of that specific paludarium, but I'm guessing there's possibly another co-inhabintants or possibly even housed together with the anaconda, though this are still only speculations.
  • Other terrariums and paludariums.
I really hoped that we see smaller reptiles and amphibians being represented through HerpetoZone, similar to the amazing West Javan-biotope in Animalium.

Source:
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One of the paludariums housed a Chinese giant salamander according to this vid:
 
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