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zoolander said:
I spoke a zookeeper a view days ago
All the big cats will move to make place for new exhibits for the tigers and also the will make one on the side where the fennec foxes are living
First the tigers will return and later the want to find a place for the lions. there are no plans for the snow-leopards who will probable go to Australia Zoo
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Thanks for that info! Such a shame that there are no long-term plans for snow leopards however :(
 
Jabiru96 said:
So it appears that yes, they will be splitting the elephants along matriarchal lines. I do not now, however, if they will integrate the two females from Taronga with the two existing females at Dubbo to re-form a 'herd' (breeding and non-breeding females for companionship) at Dubbo rather than just a breeding pair.
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I read in a news article the other day that they will keep both herds separate (but I think still having visual contact with each other).
 
There is a fairly high chance that Shabani could be the father of Shiba's little Sudi... which would make him both father and brother... err!

Anyone who watches the Taronga chimps regularly knows that Shabani is the one who is always glued to any female with a swelling... he has a one-track mind that boy! The odds of him fathering more than one of the latest babies is pretty high I would think... lol!

I have this gut feeling that he's not Fumo's father though... my guess is Shikamoo... but that's just a guess until the DNA test is done.

T.
 
tdierikx said:
There is a fairly high chance that Shabani could be the father of Shiba's little Sudi... which would make him both father and brother... err!

Anyone who watches the Taronga chimps regularly knows that Shabani is the one who is always glued to any female with a swelling... he has a one-track mind that boy! The odds of him fathering more than one of the latest babies is pretty high I would think... lol!

I have this gut feeling that he's not Fumo's father though... my guess is Shikamoo... but that's just a guess until the DNA test is done.

T.
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The chimp colony is getting a fair bit inbred nowadays haha. Furahi is also a result of incest as well (Lubutu and Kuma are half-siblings).
 
Jabiru96 said:
The chimp colony is getting a fair bit inbred nowadays haha. Furahi is also a result of incest as well (Lubutu and Kuma are half-siblings).
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That would be why he looks so much like Lubutu then... lol! Sometimes it can be hard to tell them apart at a distance...

T.
 
I wonder if new females will be brought in (from Europe?) if further breeding is planned, surely it can't be ideal for so much inbreeding to be taking place.
 
soona said:
I wonder if new females will be brought in (from Europe?) if further breeding is planned, surely it can't be ideal for so much inbreeding to be taking place.
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Yeah there hasn't been many imports from overseas (or even any other regional zoo for that matter), so I also hope that they will import some new females (and eventually export some of the males to prevent further inbreeding).
 
I think the intention is to keep the males within Taronga's community, but with the new baby boys that's going to be a LOT of boys. Maybe vasectomies could be an option? I don't imagine they will be in much demand for breeding elsewhere considering that they are almost all related to Snowy, and so many chimps in the region, and probably hybrids so not in keeping with the current aims of the EEP. Maybe a bachelor group might be started somewhere in the future?

Just musing out loud.
 
soona said:
Maybe a bachelor group might be started somewhere in the future?
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EEP nowadays recommend only breeding from pure West African chimps, though many zoos still breed from their hybrid/mixed race chimps, either deliberately or accidentally from time to time. Its always a difficult decision to stop breeding entirely as babies/young are socially important to a group and a visitor attraction too. The downside is where to place the surplus of course.

I don't know of places that deliberately keep 'bachelor' chimp groups. Males will obviously live together, at least in most instances but I'm not sure many places have tried/set this up deliberately with Chimpanzees.
 
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soona said:
I think the intention is to keep the males within Taronga's community, but with the new baby boys that's going to be a LOT of boys. Maybe vasectomies could be an option? I don't imagine they will be in much demand for breeding elsewhere considering that they are almost all related to Snowy, and so many chimps in the region, and probably hybrids so not in keeping with the current aims of the EEP. Maybe a bachelor group might be started somewhere in the future?

Just musing out loud.
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Maybe when Rockhampton's old-ish male dies send a few up there as well?
 
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