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I can see Taronga retaining their zebra. A gelding and a mare shouldn’t cause compatability issues with the giraffe and in any case, it’s clear Taronga doesn’t wish to breed giraffe (they haven’t bred since 1992 and hold castrated bulls). Melbourne has an open range sister zoo within 45 minutes; but the distance between Taronga and Dubbo is considerably greater, meaning it’s less desirable to transit calves to and from their sites.

Part of western plains appeal used to be where you would go to see the big breeding herds. It used to be the zoo with larger herds of ungulates which seems to have partially gone by the way side.

Interestingly enough about 30 min from where the new Sydney zoo sits land. That was originally purchased for western plains which would have been the same distance from Taronga as Werribee. But government officials were trying to build up western areas and thought a large zoo would help pull crowds. Personally I think this was a huuuugggeee mistake.

Taronga likely won't breed giraffe or zebra again as its part of there brand to breed them at there sister site.
 
Part of western plains appeal used to be where you would go to see the big breeding herds. It used to be the zoo with larger herds of ungulates which seems to have partially gone by the way side.

Interestingly enough about 30 min from where the new Sydney zoo sits land. That was originally purchased for western plains which would have been the same distance from Taronga as Werribee. But government officials were trying to build up western areas and thought a large zoo would help pull crowds. Personally I think this was a huuuugggeee mistake.

Taronga likely won't breed giraffe or zebra again as its part of there brand to breed them at there sister site.

It’s clear that Dubbo has a localised market that provides sufficient support/visitation but I fully agree it doesn’t draw people to visit. I know many people who’ve visited Taronga Zoo while in Sydney, but very few who’ve made the trip to Dubbo and those that have are dedicated zoo enthusiasts, who sadly comprise a small percentage of visitors.

An open range zoo close to Taronga Zoo would have been amazing. I really feel like Monarto/Adelaide and Werribee/Melbourne benefit from being in close proximity to each other. Had Taronga had an open range sister site within 45 minutes, I can guarantee the elephants would have gone by now though.
 
Part of western plains appeal used to be where you would go to see the big breeding herds. It used to be the zoo with larger herds of ungulates which seems to have partially gone by the way side.

Interestingly enough about 30 min from where the new Sydney zoo sits land. That was originally purchased for western plains which would have been the same distance from Taronga as Werribee. But government officials were trying to build up western areas and thought a large zoo would help pull crowds. Personally I think this was a huuuugggeee mistake.

Taronga likely won't breed giraffe or zebra again as its part of there brand to breed them at there sister site.
From some of the early statements made about why the TWPZ was located at Dubbo was they wanted to place the zoo on a tourist route hub which it is indeed, much of the interstate traffic passes right through Dubbo where many travellers do have an over night stop which is evident by the many motels and hotels there. Also a land area of land became available that was at one time an ex world wars 2 army training camp. I have spoken to many people over the years who have travelled through Dubbo on their interstate journey and have asked them if they had visited the zoo with about 90% of them saying they did and these are people who have little to no real interest on zoos.
 
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Don't think so. @Tiger91 is right on the money.
Whilst @Zoofan15 is correct about the localised market, locals aren’t going to Dubbo nearly as much as for instance Taronga. There can’t really be a comparison made between Taronga and Dubbo in local visitation however, as Sydney has a much greater population and popularity than their sister zoo.
Part of western plains appeal used to be where you would go to see the big breeding herds. It used to be the zoo with larger herds of ungulates which seems to have partially gone by the way side.
This is the sad reality with Australian zoos, we’re losing more and more ungulates, with Melbourne phasing out Zebra and Elephant, and Taronga constantly losing species, recently; Elephant and Bongo, open-range parks will soon be the only places the species are held. While this isn’t a bad thing in the slightest, I feel these institutions aren’t taking advantage of the limited space they do have, besides, not everyone can just give up a weekend and drive 12 hours there and back to Dubbo.
 
From some of the early statements made about why the TWPZ was located at Dubbo was they wanted to place the zoo on a tourist route hub which it is indeed, much of the interstate traffic passes right through Dubbo where many travellers do have an over night stop which is evident by the many motels and hotels there. Also a land area of land became available that was at one time an ex world wars 2 army training camp. I have spoken to many people over the years who have travelled through Dubbo on their interstate journey and have asked them if they had visited the zoo with about 90% of them saying they did and these are people who have little to no real interest on zoos.

Yes that's similar to what I have heard as well. When I was studying animal science/zoology at western Sydney university Hawkesbury campus out at Richmond. We were told that the site was originally purchased as the site for TWPZ. As it was within an hours drive to Taronga . The land area is virtually the same, maybe slightly larger. However they decided to try and draw in tourism to the central west/capitalise on tourists driving through out there. So the zoo was moved and the Sydney site was turned into an agricultural college.

If it had been made into the zoo they could have capitalised on far more tourist numbers at Richmond. Both international and domestic as it would have been within the Sydney metro area but still on, one of the main tourist routes across the mountain range. Which would have helped massively with funding for the zoo. Simply due to a far larger income.
 
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It’s clear that Dubbo has a localised market that provides sufficient support/visitation but I fully agree it doesn’t draw people to visit. I know many people who’ve visited Taronga Zoo while in Sydney, but very few who’ve made the trip to Dubbo and those that have are dedicated zoo enthusiasts, who sadly comprise a small percentage of visitors.

An open range zoo close to Taronga Zoo would have been amazing. I really feel like Monarto/Adelaide and Werribee/Melbourne benefit from being in close proximity to each other. Had Taronga had an open range sister site within 45 minutes, I can guarantee the elephants would have gone by now though.

Dubbo has a very small local visitor base, Dubbo is the largest central town for a good few hours in either direction and its population is only just now pushing 50,000. Compared to Sydneys population of over 4 mil. Dubbo is on a majour tourist route across the west and does attract a decent amount of tourists. But the zoo has a stable visitor rate of about 500,000. Compared to taronga visitor rate which is usually up over the million mark.

The site out at western Sydney is about an hour from Taronga zoo but still very accessible by both driving and the train network. It could have been a huge tourist spot which I think would have shaped the two zoos vastly differently. And we would have seen far more progression pushed towards the open range zoo site like we see at taronga. Simply due to the much larger income it would have had.

ETA: if TWPZ was held at the original Sydney site. We would have seen the elephants automatically go there. And the investment of space and funds set up for them from the get go.
 
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Whilst @Zoofan15 is correct about the localised market, locals aren’t going to Dubbo nearly as much as for instance Taronga. There can’t really be a comparison made between Taronga and Dubbo in local visitation however, as Sydney has a much greater population and popularity than their sister zoo.

This is the sad reality with Australian zoos, we’re losing more and more ungulates, with Melbourne phasing out Zebra and Elephant, and Taronga constantly losing species, recently; Elephant and Bongo, open-range parks will soon be the only places the species are held. While this isn’t a bad thing in the slightest, I feel these institutions aren’t taking advantage of the limited space they do have, besides, not everyone can just give up a weekend and drive 12 hours there and back to Dubbo.

Im not opposed to sending certain species to the open range sites, But the trouble with city zoos is the current rate at which they are creating humanised precincts. There is so much space dedicated to humans, to wasted conservation space. Just look at tiger trek, a new primate species could have been displayed up with the tigers. Instead we got a fake market, a weird plane ride people skip and a conservation shop geared at donations again that people skip. Animals act as the main point of interest, seeing animals engages people to care about and look at conservation messages. All that other stuff does not.
The African precinct is the same, I believe they have built a caffe in there. Why ? its the central part of the zoo with multiple food outlets a short walk away. Yet again instead of capitalising on another smaller species that could be displayed there. They dedicate more space to humans.

We have the ability to import/ have held such a variety of species that fit the current themes and spaces city zoos are constrained by. Yet we continue to see them waste money, time and space on areas that are dedicated to humans or generating income from visitors. Instead of having a high ropes system for gibbons we have a climbing/high ropes course for children to play on at taronga. It's a zoo.
 
Im not opposed to sending certain species to the open range sites, But the trouble with city zoos is the current rate at which they are creating humanised precincts. There is so much space dedicated to humans, to wasted conservation space. Just look at tiger trek, a new primate species could have been displayed up with the tigers. Instead we got a fake market, a weird plane ride people skip and a conservation shop geared at donations again that people skip. Animals act as the main point of interest, seeing animals engages people to care about and look at conservation messages. All that other stuff does not.
The African precinct is the same, I believe they have built a caffe in there. Why ? its the central part of the zoo with multiple food outlets a short walk away. Yet again instead of capitalising on another smaller species that could be displayed there. They dedicate more space to humans.

We have the ability to import/ have held such a variety of species that fit the current themes and spaces city zoos are constrained by. Yet we continue to see them waste money, time and space on areas that are dedicated to humans or generating income from visitors. Instead of having a high ropes system for gibbons we have a climbing/high ropes course for children to play on at taronga. It's a zoo.
Well put and well said!
 
Well put and well said!

A couple of extra things to consider:

While the western Sydney site was certainly the initial site chosen for a satellite zoo [and still the best in my opinion] politics influenced the change to Dubbo. The local, long-time State member for the area was retiring and called in a few political favours to have the zoo developed in his electorate. The new Sydney Zoo will capitalise on that change of decision.

With regard to the downsizing of animal collections in favour of human activities there are a number of factors at play.

Firstly, the considerable influence that marketing people have over some zoo managements.

Thus, we have zoo avian collections minimised because "birds don't sell". If the birds are big and gaudy or can be free flown then they have a chance. But the wonderful plethora of bird species that places like Taronga, Currumbin, Healesville etc used to be noted for have now been considerably reduced - and with them the cohort of skilled keepers that used to sustain them.

Secondly, like so many other providers, zoos have discovered that education is big business. Somewhat less attention is placed on the animal collection and more on creating "institutes" that can charge students many thousands of dollars to graduate into an industry where there are not enough jobs for them all.

And, as some posters have noted, exhibits these seem to have to be "themed" in order to appeal to visitors. Therefore the animal real estate is reduced to make way for ethnic villages, play areas and theme park models. Marketing people and zoo design consultants love them.

Finally, I can understand the need for a variety of food outlets in major zoos. When you consider our diverse population in major urban areas, and the need to feed potentially tens of thousands of people at peak times on busy days, then it makes good commercial sense to have a variety of appropriate food on offer at various locations. If those locations are adjacent to a major animal exhibit - bonus!
 
Sumatran tiger export:

Memphis Zoo in the US has applied for a permit to import two tigers from Taronga Zoo:

1.0 Pemanah (17/01/2019) Clarence x Kartika
0.1 Mawar (17/01/2019) Clarence x Kartika

Mawar will transfer from Memphis Zoo to Point Defiance Zoo in Tacoma, Washington within 30-60 days of her arrival in Memphis.

Reported by @Elena in the Australasian Sumatran tiger population thread.
 
Sumatran tiger export:

Memphis Zoo in the US has applied for a permit to import two tigers from Taronga Zoo:

1.0 Pemanah (17/01/2019) Clarence x Kartika
0.1 Mawar (17/01/2019) Clarence x Kartika

Mawar will transfer from Memphis Zoo to Point Defiance Zoo in Tacoma, Washington within 30-60 days of her arrival in Memphis.

Reported by @Elena in the Australasian Sumatran tiger population thread.

As much as we'll be sorry to see them go, it's good to have confirmation of the tigers heading back to the US, and Pemanah and Mawar will likely have the opportunity to breed and contribute their grandmother Kaitlyn's valuable genetics to the US program. Is this the first export of Sumatran tigers to the US since Kali in the 1980s?

I hope this also means that there are plans to breed from Tengah over the next few years. I would say that one of the males (at least) would need to move on for this to happen, and potentially an import, unless Ramah and Zayana produce a surviving son within the next two years.

This will be the first major change in Taronga's tiger holdings since the birth of the cubs in 2019.
 
As much as we'll be sorry to see them go, it's good to have confirmation of the tigers heading back to the US, and Pemanah and Mawar will likely have the opportunity to breed and contribute their grandmother Kaitlyn's valuable genetics to the US program. Is this the first export of Sumatran tigers to the US since Kali in the 1980s?

I hope this also means that there are plans to breed from Tengah over the next few years. I would say that one of the males (at least) would need to move on for this to happen, and potentially an import, unless Ramah and Zayana produce a surviving son within the next two years.

This will be the first major change in Taronga's tiger holdings since the birth of the cubs in 2019.

It is indeed the region’s first export of Sumatran tigers to the US since the 1980’s. Taronga Zoo sent a total of three females to San Diego:

0.1 Sinta (02/12/1983) Exported November 1986
0.1 Usha (12/03/1985) Exported November 1987
0.1 Kali (06/09/1985) Exported July 1987

It’s a great move as while I struggled to anticipate breeding placements for any more than one tiger from this litter within Australasia, they’ll be invaluable to the North American breeding programme. I look forward to following their progress over the next decade.

It would be ideal for Ramah and Zayana to produce a son. Females typically want their offspring gone by 12-18 months of age (unless contracepted), as they’ve resumed cycling again. Potentially Auckland could breed another litter as soon as mid-2025, but it might be preferable to give their female cub additional time with her mother since she has no siblings to seperate off with. Tegah would be close to 10 years by that time a male born 2025 is mature, so it may be preferable to pair her with Ramah instead (after Ramah and Zayana have produced a second surviving litter).
 
Used to think maybe Bullens having both the Lion Safari at Warragamba and the zoo ('Animal World') at Wallacia in the '70s was what helped the decision to have the open range Taronga out in central Nsw at Dubbo (with the persuasion of the long term politician from there, as mentioned by @Steve Robinson), @snowleopard mentioned in August 2009 (Attendance At Australian Zoos & Aquariums) about Western Plains having a 200,000 visitor annual attendance rate, would imagine its about the same or maybe just over 250,000 now as @Jambo points out. An open-range zoo in western Sydney in the mid '70s would really of been the best (and Dubbo would likely of gotten a cool slightly smaller private zoo eventually by now sometime later if it hadnt gotten to house Western Plains). Sydney-Blacktown Zoo has filled that second zoo quota/niche now (albeit certainly not an open range zoo although exhibit sizes are good, its perk imo is having Rhinos, Orangutans, Hyenas, Cheetahs, Hunting Dogs, Capuchins, Porcupines and a couple of other species to still be (or returned to in most cases) to being in Sydney area.)
 
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New Zealand fur seal pup named:

The female pup has been named Eve.

From socials:

Now 7-weeks-old and weighing in at 7.6kg, little Eve is taking her swimming lessons with leaps and bounds but is yet to jump in the deep end - literally.

Until both Eve and mum Keke are confident with her swimming skills she’ll be behind the scenes, but you’ll still be able to see Eve’s big brother Kobe at our Great Southern Oceans.
 
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