Depends if they have the off display enclosures within the complex like Melbourne as well.
Taronga Zoo Taronga Zoo News 2024
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Elephants leaving in late 2025:
It was mentioned in this update by Auckland Zoo that Pak Boon and Tang Mo are scheduled to transfer to Monarto late 2025 (after the pair from Perth arrive in May):
Burma’s new home progressing at pace | Auckland Zoo News
Burma will be the first of five Asian elephants to arrive at Zoos South Australia’s (ZSA) Monarto Safari Park - with two elephants (female Permai and male Putra Mas) from Perth Zoo expected mid-2025, then two females (Pak Boon and Tang Mo) from Taronga Zoo - to arrive later in 2025.
It was mentioned in this update by Auckland Zoo that Pak Boon and Tang Mo are scheduled to transfer to Monarto late 2025 (after the pair from Perth arrive in May):
Burma’s new home progressing at pace | Auckland Zoo News
Burma will be the first of five Asian elephants to arrive at Zoos South Australia’s (ZSA) Monarto Safari Park - with two elephants (female Permai and male Putra Mas) from Perth Zoo expected mid-2025, then two females (Pak Boon and Tang Mo) from Taronga Zoo - to arrive later in 2025.
A walk through video of the new ARC
A very good insight into this new ARC (Amphibian and Reptile Conservation Centre).
Interestingly its noted that there are currently two seperate enclosures for lace monitors one of which is a rainforest style enclosure my best guess is this is destined for either the green tree monitor or veiled chameleons the bigger outdoor enclosure I could only guess may wind up being home to the juvenile komodo dragon from The ARP (Australian Reptile Park) if it ever goes ahead.
A very good insight into this new ARC (Amphibian and Reptile Conservation Centre).
Interestingly its noted that there are currently two seperate enclosures for lace monitors one of which is a rainforest style enclosure my best guess is this is destined for either the green tree monitor or veiled chameleons the bigger outdoor enclosure I could only guess may wind up being home to the juvenile komodo dragon from The ARP (Australian Reptile Park) if it ever goes ahead.
Wow, that was great to watch. Thanks for posting.
I agree that seems likely, with the Komodo dragon eventually occupying that exhibit. It would be really great if the juvenile originally designated for Taronga still comes given it was from the first clutch in Australia (fitting considering Taronga were the first holder in Australia).
Hhoops31
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Based on the map of the building at the entrance I believe that the tropical lace monitor habitat will be for the green tree monitor and the chameleon will be cohabited with the basilisks
Hhoops31
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Arc update:
Had a shift at the taronga today and got to chat with one of the reptile keepers about the future of arc here are main things to note:
1. Star tortoises and coastal taipans are now present in arc. The star tortoises are in the old elongated tortoise exhibit and the elongated tortoises are now cohabed with the boa. The coastal taipans are being held in the tropical lace monitor enclosure
2. The veiled chameleon will arrive on Tuesday I don’t know what enclosure it will be in though.
3. The green tree monitors are currently backstage whilst the grow large enough to move into their habitat (no eta on when this will be)
4. In approx a month fish will start to be added to the enclosures as well as more turtles to the merten water monitor enclosure. The only named species here was archer fish.
Had a shift at the taronga today and got to chat with one of the reptile keepers about the future of arc here are main things to note:
1. Star tortoises and coastal taipans are now present in arc. The star tortoises are in the old elongated tortoise exhibit and the elongated tortoises are now cohabed with the boa. The coastal taipans are being held in the tropical lace monitor enclosure
2. The veiled chameleon will arrive on Tuesday I don’t know what enclosure it will be in though.
3. The green tree monitors are currently backstage whilst the grow large enough to move into their habitat (no eta on when this will be)
4. In approx a month fish will start to be added to the enclosures as well as more turtles to the merten water monitor enclosure. The only named species here was archer fish.
loganjmuir
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Update 9/7
@Hhoops31 is pretty much on the money here. The veiled chameleon hasn't arrived yet, and there are no empty exhibits, but it is probable that the chameleon is on site. There is still only 1 Murray River Turtle and 1 Bellinger River Turtle, but more on the way.
Backyard to Bush
. The wombat joey was up and active today, running around and keeping mum busy
. I can confirm at least 1 more Australian White sheep is pregnant, possible 2.
Other than this, All 4 tigers currently at Taronga were on display. Mum and Dad in the waterfall exhibit with the cub, and Uncle in the Fig Tree exhibit. Several animals were off display, including Kambiri and Lololi, but I assume this was due to the rain. The Ostriches were given free roam of the main savanna paddock today with the Guineafowl. From my viewpoint, I could see 5 species of bird:
Ostrich
Guineafowl
Peafowl
Moorhen
Ibis
It was a very quiet day at the zoo, and the rain persisted long enough for me to get a good look around. The ARC is looking incredible, all that is missing is a headliner species in my opinion.
@Hhoops31 is pretty much on the money here. The veiled chameleon hasn't arrived yet, and there are no empty exhibits, but it is probable that the chameleon is on site. There is still only 1 Murray River Turtle and 1 Bellinger River Turtle, but more on the way.
Backyard to Bush
. The wombat joey was up and active today, running around and keeping mum busy
. I can confirm at least 1 more Australian White sheep is pregnant, possible 2.
Other than this, All 4 tigers currently at Taronga were on display. Mum and Dad in the waterfall exhibit with the cub, and Uncle in the Fig Tree exhibit. Several animals were off display, including Kambiri and Lololi, but I assume this was due to the rain. The Ostriches were given free roam of the main savanna paddock today with the Guineafowl. From my viewpoint, I could see 5 species of bird:
Ostrich
Guineafowl
Peafowl
Moorhen
Ibis
It was a very quiet day at the zoo, and the rain persisted long enough for me to get a good look around. The ARC is looking incredible, all that is missing is a headliner species in my opinion.
When you say Taronga currently has these four tigers:
1.0 Kembali (20/08/2011) Satu x Jumilah
0.1 Kartika (20/08/2011) Satu x Jumilah
1.0 Clarence (22/08/2013) Ramalon x Kaitlyn
0.1 Tengah Malam (17/01/2019) Clarence x Kartika
Do you mean Penmamah and Mawar have left for the US now? Or just that they were off display on your visit?
1.0 Pemanah (17/01/2019) Clarence x Kartika
0.1 Mawar (17/01/2019) Clarence x Kartika
loganjmuir
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They were off display, but I thought someone had said they left for the US a few weeks ago.
@Abbey also noted a few weeks ago that those two were not on display, so it’s a possibility; but remains unconfirmed at this point in time. Taronga will hopefully announce it shortly.
The triplets are five years old, so well and truly past the age of dispersal. It’s preferable not to have females on contraception if intended for future breeding, so it’s possible they’ve been separated from their brother for this reason (and in anticipation of them breeding soon themselves). Mawar is headed to the US to breed; and Tengah will soon be the only reproductive descendant of Assiqua in the region, so will presumably be paired with a male. Since Ramah and Zayana have no surviving male offspring, it would never surprise me to see Ramah paired with Tengah after he sires a second surviving litter at Auckland Zoo; but Taronga could also import from outside the region (since matches in the region are otherwise scarce for Tengah).
Hopefully with a bit of luck we may see taronga import. With use sending two over to the states it would be great if they had a young tiger that was a good match for Tengah that could be imported. Taronga isnt a stranger from sourcing tigers from outside the region and they built up there complex to be a breeding hub. So with a bit of luck we will see them breeding again in the not to distant future.
We did receive Ramah and Zayana from the US in 2022, prior to the export/upcoming export of Penmanah and Mawar. I do hope though that there will be future exchanges of tigers between our region as there’s a limited number of founders and many of the European lines are well represented in Australasian from the early imports of Nico, Meta, Frank and Poetry. The North American population was mostly founded by European imports, but had a handful of founders such as Kerinci (National Zoo), was born in the wild in 1984.
Taronga have five exhibits and are near capacity considering Tengah would be living seperately from her mother to breed/rear cubs and her mate would be the fifth grouping. With Dubbo’s tigers ageing, they may retire 2-3 Taronga tigers to their facility before we see breeding resume.
That gila monster at 9:10 is a mood.
I love the flooring, it looks cool. Narrow corridors again are a bit of a surprise, they're never fun on school holidays or weekends, but I guess they had to save space.
Ironically wasn't one of the reasons for ARC to be built was that serpantaria had narrow corridors. Hopefully they are wider then they look.
Don't they have at least the 3 on display exhibits then the 3 or 4 back of house ones. But yes I wouldn't be surprised if kartika and Clarence retire out to Dubbo, especially if they have them cohabitating again.
With so many ageing sumatrans in private zoos and spots beginning to open up. It will be interesting to see how they proceed with breeding. Will they have another litter using Clarence and kartika, or will they focus on Tengah. If the sumatran program doesn't provide tigers to private zoos that are looking to acquire them. We will likely see a resurgence of generic/bengal tigers filling valuable sumatran spaces.
Taronga have three on display tiger exhibits and two off display tiger exhibits. Retiring Clarence and Kartika to Dubbo makes a lot of sense, but with a number of other zoos in Australia housing elderly tigers, spaces may also open up there.
I would expect any future breeding from Kartika’s line to revolve around Tengah and an unrelated male.
Private zoos taking on generics instead of continuing with Sumatrans was apparently due to a lack of availability. At this point in time, it’s difficult to imagine this will be an issue in the future given we have a total of 1.4 young tigers from the respective pairings of two full siblings with two full siblings at Hamilton/Adelaide; but like I say, there’s a number of zoos with ageing cats, so there’s undoubtedly a plan in place already.
Hhoops31
Member
Another arc update:
Chameleon is now on display replacing the shechltopusik. Bit of a shame but a much more appealing species so the replacement makes sense.
they were also trialing the archer fish with the mertens water monitor and mary river turtle and the interactions seemed positive from what I saw.
FelixFS
Member
What are they doing with the shechltopusik if it won't be on display?