The Bamboe Jungle at Zoo Veldhoven

vogelcommando

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On August 2 2014 I paid a visit to Zoo Veldhoven. I had been on this place before but then it was still known as NOP Papegaaien Opvang Veldhoven.
Parts of the zoo had changed, others had remained almost the same. Some very good but also several enclosures which doesn't fit in a modern western zoo !
In this review I only want to deal with the Tropical house with has been named "Bamboe Jungle".
Through a small hall-way you enter the building and then comes onto a terras were you can eat and drink if you want. Here at one of the walls also the first enclosure, a small terrarium with some kind of milksnake. The building has 2 levels and on the bottom-level you walk through a well-planted "jungle" with many free-ranging birds. Larger birds are housed in nylon-netted enclosures across the hall. By a stairway you can also go upstairs and here along 3 sides along the walls a large amount of enclosures are home to birds, mammals and reptiles. You walk along these enclosures on a kind of bridge and if you look at the other sides of the enclosures you look from above into the central part of the "jungle". Some of the enclosures on the first floor are quite Oke but many are to small and to dark for the birds kept in them !
On Zootierliste I checked the list of animals kept and sorted the Jungle animals out and made a list of them. Here I discovered that Zootierliste is not that acurate because a lot of the animals I did see are not mentioned on it but also quite a lot of animals which they mention and from which I would expect they would be kept in the 'jungle" I didn't find !
Here is the list: + means I saw it
? means I didn't see it but would have expected it in the "jungle"'
Painted quail ?
Bali mynah +
Golden tegu +
Central bearded dragon +
Bare-throated fruitcrow +
Cumberland slider ( not sure, saw several sliders )
Superb starling +
Meerkat +
Fire-crowned bishop +
Bare-faced curassow ?
Yellow-bellied slider ( same as for Cumberland slider )
Speckled mousebird ?
Blue-tonqued skink +
Gouldian finch ?
Black and White casqued hornbill +
Green woodhoopoe +
Green iguana +
Speckled pigeon +
Blue-winged kookaburra +
Indian mynah +
Koi carp +
Crowned hornbill +
Leopard gecko ?
Masked lapwing ?
Malagasy ground boa +
Tawny Frogmouth ?
Gray's piping guan ?
Ringed teal +
Rainbow lorikeet +
Java sparrow ?
Toco toucan ?
Corn snake ?
Lesser kestrel +
Northern cardinal ?
Nubian carmine bee-eater +
Wrinkled hornbill ?
Pied avocet ?
Red-legged patridge ?
Silvery-cheeked hornbill +
Sunbittern +
Crested dove +
Dumeril's boa +
Timor zebrafinch ?
Trumpeter hornbill +
Great curassow +
White-cheeked turaco +
Western black-capped lory +
Hermann's tortoise +
Maybe the species with an question-mark are kept at other places in the park but there I didn't see them either but maybe some Zoochatter knows if some of them are still kept at Zoo Veldhoven.
In the 'jungle" I also saw a lot of other species not mentioned on Zootierliste and maybe I even missed some. The ones I saw for sure are :
Victoria crowned pigeon
Babbler species unknown ( will upload some pictures in the Gallery )
Oystercatcher
Giant wood rail
Wonga pigeon
Spurred tortoise
Nicobar pigeon
Harlequin quail
Celestral parrotlet
Dusky lory
Red lory
Emerald dove
Leopard tortoise
Unknown dove species ( will upload some pictures in the Gallery ).
As said, I may have missed some species but I hope other Zoochatters visiting Zoo Veldhoven can update this list !
 
Could the babbler species be Sudan brown babbler(Turdoides plebejus)? They have had those in the past? I haven't been there in a few years, but one of my pictures of the bird at Veldhoven is posted on zootierliste.
 
Thanks Cephie, I will have a look at "your" Babbler and also upload some of the pictures I made of it.
 
Yeah, speaking of Zootierliste, I find it to be quite a bit overrated when people are going on about how it's definitely the most accurate source of which European zoos keep which animals.

Don't get me wrong, it is a very good source when it comes to the big zoos that receive lots of visitors (especially German zoos), but when it comes to everything else, it can actually be hopelessly outdated. At least, it was when I went to update the holdings for some Danish zoos. My impression is that if it's accurate with a small (especially non-German) zoo, then it's usually pure luck - either because another user visited the zoo recently, or because a foreign user happens to have it as his home zoo.
 
Hvedekorn, zootierliste is maintained by volunteers going to zoos only. As such it is already surprising that it is better than sources coming from inside the zoo world.

You can help as well as anybody. So please, don't complain but write Zootierliste whenever you visit a small zoo, what is currently there!
 
I agree with Jurek7 on this one! I know the guys behind zootierliste, and they're doing a fantastic job. Yes, some zoos might be a bit outdated but for most zoos it is very accurate. Whenever I visit a zoo, I make notes and take pictures, and I update the information on zootierliste.

Yeah, please contact them if you have information regarding the animal list! But as Jurek7 says, I don't know if you have visited they ISIS website when it was still open, but that still had animal holdings on it that had died for years or transported elsewhere.

But ontopic, nice pictures of the babbler species vogelcommando, good to see they still have Sudan brown babbler! Some nice species still remain!
 
Yeah, speaking of Zootierliste, I find it to be quite a bit overrated when people are going on about how it's definitely the most accurate source of which European zoos keep which animals.
the others already said, why not send them a list if you find those for your local zoos inaccurate, so I'll query this part of your post (above). If Zootierliste isn't the most accurate source for European zoos.... then what is? There isn't really anything else out there to compare it to.
 
I think I made it sound harsher than I meant it (or you read it so). I like Zootierliste a lot, and I know it IS the most accurate animal holding list around, so what I meant is that I think some people consider it MORE accurate than it is.

I always check their lists and update them and/or contact the staff when I've visited a zoo, so I do that for others' benefit and don't expect an accurate list to magically appear - I'm very well aware that somebody needs to make them. It's just that when I haven't actually visited the zoo (or received an official "inventory" list), then I can't know if the info on Zootierliste is actually right.

For example, if I want to visit a tiny zoo in the middle of nowhere that almost no-one ever visits, it will usually not to be up-to-date - until after I've visited it and edited their holdings.

My point is that people often talk about Zootierliste like you can always go check out any zoo and find out exactly what they keep, which is not the case, especially if it's a small zoo with relatively few visitors because then it's not updated so often. That's what I meant with "overrated". That being the best doesn't equal being perfect and constantly reliable.

I hope I got my point across better this time. It's a bit hard phrasing it correctly when English is not my native language.
 
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