Condescending? Moi? Jeremy - I'm sure you feel better knowing that Sun has given you permission...
The eating of meat - The Vegetarian discussion
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Condescending? Moi? Jeremy - I'm sure you feel better knowing that Sun has given you permission...
NZ Jeremy
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Maybe its mental, maybe its the fact I've changed to almost exclusively filtered water (been more aware of health as a whole) I don't know... But I do feel better and would recommend you at least try the same before judgement...
@Pygathrix... I do feel better... Much better..!
Yay.. I realised I reached 300 posts... Good for me... Good for zoobeat... Good for everyone..!
Humans are designed to eat meat... simply as that. we do not have four "stomachs" like cows our teeth are designed for both meet and not so meaty things. you don't see cows with fangs. It is alot easier to draw blood from a human bite than that of a cow or horse and I've been bitten many times by all three. ashley-h you say it is the meat eatrers who usually don't respect the vegetarians choice... didn't you also say that eating meat is "sick" in a way that is not repscting meat eaters choice. What are your Iron levels like . . . the fact is without all the modern day crap we put into ourselves vegetarians would not be able to function as healthily as they do. Simple. . . And another thing whoe the hell was the first person to look at a cow and say "hey, I might squeeze those dangly things down there and drink what comes out" something to ponder!!!
NZ Jeremy
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ah. . . nieces, nephews and ahh. . . . durnken evening fight with friends in the past often resulted in biting as a last resort to get out of any holds... that or a quick punch or kick to the boys. . . nothin suss... Not into the whips and chains Jeremy although . . (jokes)
Lol. . . good show must be a thing that makes people bite coppers, my sisters been bitten four times in three years. and before you say we've gone off topic... people are meat and can be eaten (Hostel 2) or that french fella. . . that guy might be the only "sick" meat eater I know of
my opinon is, putting aside the ethics of animal welfare, that the planet and human health would be much better off if we all ate less meat.
if Western society reduced the proportion of meat it consumes the ammount of net energy used in producing it, as well as the methane produced and a myriad of other ecological impacts would be lessened.
the world could actually support, viably, a much larger human population if agriculture shifted more to vegetarian production. i respect vegetarians choices as much as that of vegans, and to an extent agree with their stance, particularly when they adopt an ecological perspective. on the other hand, if meat consumers chose to eat less meat and perhaps chose organic meat, free range eggs and fish from sustainably managed sources then obviously their impact is lessened.
if Western society reduced the proportion of meat it consumes the ammount of net energy used in producing it, as well as the methane produced and a myriad of other ecological impacts would be lessened.
the world could actually support, viably, a much larger human population if agriculture shifted more to vegetarian production. i respect vegetarians choices as much as that of vegans, and to an extent agree with their stance, particularly when they adopt an ecological perspective. on the other hand, if meat consumers chose to eat less meat and perhaps chose organic meat, free range eggs and fish from sustainably managed sources then obviously their impact is lessened.
I do agree Glyn that Australian do eat too much meat, I said earlier we were designed to eat meat, but not everyday. We were also designed to eat vegetables and fruits. it's a matter of balance. Western Society does eat too much meat. I love meat, steack, sausages, everything (except for organs) I also have family that are vegetarians, my cousin and I used to give blood together and she was always being knocked back for having iron levels too low. I think we need to find a happy medium. And for you vegetarians, what would you eat if you were stuck out in the bush and didn't know what was poisonous or not, would you rather starve then shoot a roo?
jarkari. that example above is a bit stupid. could we possible replace the gun with a guide to indigenous plant foods? lol. i know i know, silly of me. just about every time ive been stuck in the bush Ive always had a gun but forgetten my guide. its for this reason I choose to eat meat, because when ever that happens I hate the ethical debate i have to have between shooting a roo and a wattle seed damper. does this post make any sense? no. exactly. jokes jokes jokes
Hmmm. yes I have also confused myself. . . long day, but well I always carry a knife, personally I think if you don't take a knife at the very least then your stupid. I never go camping without a tomahawk, machete knife and rifle, granted many bushwalkers have no need for a rifle but hey. gotta think ahead, what if you come accross a murderer. . . How many people do you think would know how to make that damper, I'd be ctahcing fish and killin bunnies before questioning the blue berry or the red one. especially if I didn't know what I was doing. Luckily for me I don't have this problem but it's a matter of cenvenience and more importantly, in the modern world - health!
Jarkari, I actually said that I find the idea of eating any meat sick, not that I think everyone should stop doing it. You proved my point about meat eaters with the thing about "humans are designed to eat meat" etc. I don't care if someone wants to eat it, I just won't do it myself as I find the idea of it pretty disusting.
Of course this is just my personal opinion, I grew up on a farm and used to help dad slaughter the sheep which we'd eat (it was often the most affordabel option for us at the time and I used to love playing with the eyeballs) So, as I expect some will have a go at me for it, my opinion is my opinion adn it's that waybecause that's how I was raised, killing something to eat it was never a big issue and often would be the only way we'd have been able to eat. So now, I am still a proud meat eater and my kids will probably have the same experiences as me. . I have a photo in my phone of my nephew holding a sheeps head up to drain the blood shortly after we slit it's throat, somthing most would find sick, is the norm for us. I don't know how people can afford to be vegans or vegetarians anyway.