The football thread

Just doing a quick literature search, it appears that rugby injuries are fewer and much less severe than those of American football. It probably has to do with several factors such as tackling methods, surface played on, and duration of play for the players involved.
 
Just doing a quick literature search, it appears that rugby injuries are fewer and much less severe than those of American football. It probably has to do with several factors such as tackling methods, surface played on, and duration of play for the players involved.

And how much of a wuss the players are.

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And how much of a wuss the players are.

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indeed. I think his search didn't take into account that maybe rugby players don't bother seeking medical attention for anything less severe than a broken neck whereas I assume that American footballers run complaining when they stub their toe :D
 
yeah I guess. Sometimes you see them wearing leather helmets. I don't think mouth-guards would count as padding though.

Had I worn a mouth guard when playing cricket, I would still have my original teeth today. :D Let's call it personal protective equipment as they call it in industry (PPE) then if not padding.
 
Just doing a quick literature search, it appears that rugby injuries are fewer and much less severe than those of American football. It probably has to do with several factors such as tackling methods, surface played on, and duration of play for the players involved.

There's no question football is rougher. There's even a rule in rugby [aka rugby football] that the players must wrap their arms around the ball carrier while in football you can try to kill the guy diving head first.
 
There's no question football is rougher. There's even a rule in rugby [aka rugby football] that the players must wrap their arms around the ball carrier while in football you can try to kill the guy diving head first.

I guess one does have to admire a sport that actually has a rule for murdering other players :rolleyes:
 
I never said Rugby players or Gridiron (since I'm mostly talking to aussies here I will use their term to avoid confusion) are "tougher' or are wimps. Both games require a huge degree of toughness to practice much less play competitively.

They are just different games. I for one believe that while the helmets are a great thing in gridiron I also think they are the root cause of the concussion problem by creating a false sense of security hence a lot of leading with the helmet to make a tackle (which should never never be done but it happens)

I tried Rugby when I was at Alabama (a club team there is no organized competitive rugby in my area). It definitely was a different game the players have to be more athletic in a general sense where as gridiron is all about specialization.

But this conversation will keep going in circles until you remember one large facet of American life not yet mentioned in this thread and that is liability. We are perhaps the most sue happy people on the planent. Not that its inside the sport, you don't file lawsuits because a guy hit you too hard or you got injured. But the pads are part of preventive liability anyway.

I am interested to see Rugby Union in the 2016 Olympics myself. Gridiron would never be accepted as an Olympic sport (unless it was American High Schoolers or D3 college players) so Rugby Union is the closest thing we will get (maybe in 50 years I could see 7 on 7 flag football).
 
And as a side note, I coach American football (and teach) at the High School level. I could definitely with the injury/liability/concussion issues that the game becomes more and more like Flag Football so the pads would eventually done away with. Ironically that would mean a trend away from specialization (you don't have lineman at all in flag) and back toward the general athletes of Rugby or Soccer. History cycles in a lot of ways.
 
so, champions league time.... what are the predictions then? I've already posted my guesses so now it's your turn, you can be more vague or just go for one match.
Come on Man utd!!!!
 
euro qualifiers tonight

results from friday: san marino 0-8 england scotland 1-2 wales

so..... will england be able to overcome montenegro? can scotland not loose that badly against serbia?
 
so what do we think about the race for the prem title?
I don't think man city will be able to get gain the 16 points required against man utd.
 
I find all sport boring to watch so in an attempt to introduce some zoology into this dull thread (:D), why do Watford Football Club have a moose on their badge?
 
I find all sport boring to watch so in an attempt to introduce some zoology into this dull thread (:D), why do Watford Football Club have a moose on their badge?

found this:

WHY DO WATFORD HAVE A MOOSE ON THEIR BADGE?

Why, if their nickname is The Hornets, do Watford have a moose on their club badge? asked Martyn Amos.

"The moose is actually a hart - a male deer - which represents the hart part of Hertfordshire," says Tim Beesley, from Berkhamsted, Herts.

"I've no idea why the spelling is different, lost in the mists of time no doubt," he continues. "But I do know it is on the badge to represent the fact that for a very long time Watford were the only league club in Hertfordshire. Of course, this is no longer the case as Watford have been joined by Barnet.

"This is a relatively recent badge, as I think I'm right in saying the Watford badges of the 60's and 70's had a hornet on them," he adds.

And the reason why Watford are called the Hornets? As Alan Brydon points out, that's because of their distinctive yellow and black kit
 
found this:

WHY DO WATFORD HAVE A MOOSE ON THEIR BADGE?

Why, if their nickname is The Hornets, do Watford have a moose on their club badge? asked Martyn Amos.

"The moose is actually a hart - a male deer - which represents the hart part of Hertfordshire," says Tim Beesley, from Berkhamsted, Herts.

"I've no idea why the spelling is different, lost in the mists of time no doubt," he continues. "But I do know it is on the badge to represent the fact that for a very long time Watford were the only league club in Hertfordshire. Of course, this is no longer the case as Watford have been joined by Barnet.

"This is a relatively recent badge, as I think I'm right in saying the Watford badges of the 60's and 70's had a hornet on them," he adds.

And the reason why Watford are called the Hornets? As Alan Brydon points out, that's because of their distinctive yellow and black kit

You clearly enjoy Chlidonias yelling at you for not including your source (ie for not posting the link you got the info about the moose from).
 
Thanks for that explanation, it makes sense but I think the badge’s designer should have familiarised himself with cervidae a little more.
 
Thanks for that explanation, it makes sense but I think the badge’s designer should have familiarised himself with cervidae a little more.

yes the picture is quite clearly a moose, whatever the intentions of the designer!
 
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