The Nonsense Thread

[jbnbsn99]

I don't believe that Aliens contributed to our way of life or anything, I just believe that they are real and some have probably visited the Earth at some pointf. Weither it be for scientific research or to obtain resources for back home.
I'm a little curious as to how you think ancient civilizations built things like the Great Pyramid at Giza (which is perfectly aligned with at the point where longitude and latitude meat or so they say) as we cannot recreate such a structure using the tools they had available, today? I'm not saying Aliens had anything to do with it I just want to know.

If you research legit scholars, then it's pretty easy to figure out. Believe it or not, the Egyptians left instructions on how they did it. Just because you can't explain something doesn't mean there isn't an answer. At that time, they also calculated the circumference of the Earth to within a few percentage points of accuracy using only a stick.

 

[ThylacineAlive]

If you research legit scholars, then it's pretty easy to figure out. Believe it or not, the Egyptians left instructions on how they did it. Just because you can't explain something doesn't mean there isn't an answer. At that time, they also calculated the circumference of the Earth to within a few percentage points of accuracy using only a stick.

The ancient Egyptians were an amazing civilization. I believe the most widely excepted theory is that they made a series of large and long wooden incline planes (ramps) that they then had their Jewish Slaves (just the beginning of the the Jewish people's bad luck I'm afraid) pull the huge blocks of stone upward to where they were adding it on. Anyone who knows anything about simple machines should know that by using incline planes, their work was severly reduced. I knew this (I forgot to put it in my previous message, though) but I just wanted to see your side of it. I didn't know that they had left instructions and maped out the circumference of the world, however. So I guess the Egyptians were the first people to truely know that the Earth wasn't flat?

 

[jbnbsn99]

The ancient Egyptians were an amazing civilization. I believe the most widely excepted theory is that they made a series of large and long wooden incline planes (ramps) that they then had their Jewish Slaves (just the beginning of the the Jewish people's bad luck I'm afraid) pull the huge blocks of stone upward to where they were adding it on. Anyone who knows anything about simple machines should know that by using incline planes, their work was severly reduced. I knew this (I forgot to put it in my previous message, though) but I just wanted to see your side of it. I didn't know that they had left instructions and maped out the circumference of the world, however. So I guess the Egyptians were the first people to truely know that the Earth wasn't flat?

1. Slaves probably never built the pyramids. This was made clear about a decade ago when the graves of the pyramid workers were discovered in the shadow of the great pyramids at Giza. The Pharaoh would never allow a slave to be buried in his shadow. The builders were most likely citizens of the kingdom working during the dry season when they were not harvesting crops.

2. There were never Hebrews in Egypt. The Egyptians kept immaculate records of their conquests and victories. Nowhere does it say that they conquered Israel (or Canaan).

3. We have known the Earth was round for a LONG time.

 

[ThylacineAlive]

1. Slaves probably never built the pyramids. This was made clear about a decade ago when the graves of the pyramid workers were discovered in the shadow of the great pyramids at Giza. The Pharaoh would never allow a slave to be buried in his shadow. The builders were most likely citizens of the kingdom working during the dry season when they were not harvesting crops.

2. There were never Hebrews in Egypt. The Egyptians kept immaculate records of their conquests and victories. Nowhere does it say that they conquered Israel (or Canaan).

3. We have known the Earth was round for a LONG time.

Wait, I thought we believed the Earth was flat for a LONG time? Was this just the Europeans who believed the Earth was flat and who thought they were better than pretty much everyone even though many of the others knew the Earth was really round?

No offense to the people of Europe. Your zoos/aquariums rule.

 

[jbnbsn99]

Wait, I thought we believed the Earth was flat for a LONG time? Was this just the Europeans who believed the Earth was flat and who thought they were better than pretty much everyone even though many of the others knew the Earth was really round?

No offense to the people of Europe. Your zoos/aquariums rule.

That the Earth was believed to be flat, is a modern myth. Anyone who sailed on the ocean knew that the Earth was round, even in ancient days. It is possible that during the Middle Ages some knowledge of this passed out of the common sphere, but I can assure you that for the few scholars left, it was known.

 

[ThylacineAlive]

That the Earth was believed to be flat, is a modern myth. Anyone who sailed on the ocean knew that the Earth was round, even in ancient days. It is possible that during the Middle Ages some knowledge of this passed out of the common sphere, but I can assure you that for the few scholars left, it was known.

Interesting. They never tought us that in History class.

 

[jbnbsn99]

Interesting. They never tought us that in History class.

World history in American schools gets such a glancing blow. Here in Texas from 7th grade on it is:
7 - Texas History
8 - American History 1
9 - American History 2
10 - World History
11 - World Geography
12 - Government and Economics

To cover the whole world and all its history in a mere 182 days is a complete impossibility.

 

[Chlidonias]

World history in American schools gets such a glancing blow. Here in Texas from 7th grade on it is:
7 - Texas History
8 - American History 1
9 - American History 2
10 - World History
11 - World Geography
12 - Government and Economics

To cover the whole world and all its history in a mere 182 days is a complete impossibility.

like this?

 

[zooboy28]

I thought, if you melted all the ice, Antarctica was just a bunch of islands. If Antarctica is a continent, then so should places like New Guinea, Madgascar, and Greenland as they are all bigger if you disregard the ice which isn't real land anyway.

Antarctica is not a series of islands conncted by ice, it is a continent covered by ice. If you melted all the ice there would be a continent, not sea and islands. The continent is roughly twice the size of Australia. The continent was part of Gondwana, and only became ice-covered as it neared the South Pole and seperated completely from South America, becoming completely surrounded by the Southern Ocean around 30 mya.

 

[jbnbsn99]

like this?

Sadly, I was the only person in my high school to take world geography. Granted it was required of everyone to take (mandated by the state in fact), but my HS was so stupid that they forgot to make sure the students took that class. Technically, it also means I was the only person to graduate legally from my high school that year.

 

[ThylacineAlive]

like this?

That's exactly how they do it here!!
I don't know about 12th grade but in my school we do it like this;
9th grade- World History 1 (pretty much ancient civilizations, middle ages, and a little about Colombus, Napoleon, the French Revolution, and the American Revolution)
10th grade- World History 2 (all we've done so far is Eruope in the 17 and 1800's, we are starting to learn about Europe in Africa, the Southbury (my town) Historical Society has had the high shool (go panthers!!) spend one day (yesterday) teaching us about how Southbury was deemed the name "The First Place in the World to Defeat the Third Reich", and today we started watching a move about Gandhi)
11th grade- U.S. history (should be interesting and probably will be something like the map Chlidonias kindly shared with us.)

zooboy28- Thanks for clearing that up. I wonder why some people got the idea that it's a group of islands? (retorical question) How do we know what's under there anyway?

Did you guys here that Puerto Rico voted away their territorial status and is requesting to be the 51st state of the United States of America. I know this comes up every few years and never ends up happening but, being half Puerto Rican, I'd like to see it become fully part of us. At the same time, being a commonwealth, it currently gets all the privlages of a state but few of the responsabilities or restrictions and it doesn't have to support itself as lots of money comes from our country. I'm almost 100% certain that the zoo down there (only zoo in Puerto Rico) doesn't have to follow the same standards as the ones up here. I saw a video on the zoo and the Chimpanzee exhibit was really shameful but the rest didn't look all to bad except it didn't seem like they were labeling too well. At least in a ZooChattian's eyes.

 

[ThylacineAlive]

Sadly, I was the only person in my high school to take world geography. Granted it was required of everyone to take (mandated by the state in fact), but my HS was so stupid that they forgot to make sure the students took that class. Technically, it also means I was the only person to graduate legally from my high school that year.

Are you serious!!
Does that mean you were the only one in the class?

I don't know how long ago it was since you were in high school but did you Biology department have class pets? In my school, the old Biology teacher (he still subs every once in a while) had a Green Iguana, a Burmese Python, a cockatoo that mimiced people, and a Striped Skunk that just ran freely around the room (Chlidonias' dream). There were other pets, too, but I don't remeber them. My school has a Marine Biology class that is home to some fish species (and maybe some other animals as well) but I haven't taken it yet so I don't know what they are. There's also a fish tank in the resource center (basically a hang out for the teachers that takes up about half of the upstairs portion of the school) but I don't know the species either. They're making a new bio lab that's suppose to have some kind of animal in it but I'm not sure. Thankfully, my school does not hold a black panther which is our mascot.

 

[jbnbsn99]

Are you serious!!
Does that mean you were the only one in the class?

I don't know how long ago it was since you were in high school but did you Biology department have class pets? In my school, the old Biology teacher (he still subs every once in a while) had a Green Iguana, a Burmese Python, a cockatoo that mimiced people, and a Striped Skunk that just ran freely around the room (Chlidonias' dream). There were other pets, too, but I don't remeber them. My school has a Marine Biology class that is home to some fish species (and maybe some other animals as well) but I haven't taken it yet so I don't know what they are. There's also a fish tank in the resource center (basically a hang out for the teachers that takes up about half of the upstairs portion of the school) but I don't know the species either. They're making a new bio lab that's suppose to have some kind of animal in it but I'm not sure. Thankfully, my school does not hold a black panther which is our mascot.

No, there were about 150 in my class. They rest were just let go.

My biology class was taught by a frail old lady who wouldn't touch evolution with a 40 foot pole. There were no animals (other than those in formaldehyde).

 

[Chlidonias]

There were no animals (other than those in formaldehyde).

just like God intended

 

[jbnbsn99]

just like God intended

The smell is the reason that, to this day, I've never eaten crawfish.

 

[Chlidonias]

zooboy28- Thanks for clearing that up. I wonder why some people got the idea that it's a group of islands? (retorical question) How do we know what's under there anyway?

have a look at this site: Spatial Analysis of Raster data - An Antarctic Example; from UT Austin Geosciences

To save you not bothering to read it, scroll down to figure 11 which shows Antarctica without it's ice cover. Note that it looks like a bunch of islands because of the weight of the ice pushing large areas of the continent below current sea level.

Then scroll down to figures 13 and 14. These show how it would look if the ice was gone and the land mass "rebounded" (i.e. it rises to its "normal" level without the weight of the ice pushing it down). There are a couple of large islands off the coast but otherwise it is a single continent (almost half as large again as Europe: it is the fifth largest continent on Earth).

 

[ThylacineAlive]

have a look at this site: Spatial Analysis of Raster data - An Antarctic Example; from UT Austin Geosciences

To save you not bothering to read it, scroll down to figure 11 which shows Antarctica without it's ice cover. Note that it looks like a bunch of islands because of the weight of the ice pushing large areas of the continent below current sea level.

Then scroll down to figures 13 and 14. These show how it would look if the ice was gone and the land mass "rebounded" (i.e. it rises to its "normal" level without the weight of the ice pushing it down). There are a couple of large islands off the coast but otherwise it is a single continent (almost half as large again as Europe: it is the fifth largest continent on Earth).

Very interesting. I wonder what kind of strange and unusual creatures we'd find buried in the ground death beneath the ice and sea? Still, I rather it stay frozen unless it melts of natural causes, not because we "need" applehead dolls and pickup trucks.

 

[zoogiraffe]

Araf !!!!!!

 

[JBZvolunteer]

In Michigan at my schools(dual enrollment) we do for social studies:
6th grade: world geography western hemisphere, economics
7th grade: world geography eastern hemisphere, world history part 1
8th grade: american history
9th grade: world studies 2
10th grade: american studies 2
11th grade: government or civics (the other one you do your senior year)

Class pets in science lab over the years: maggots, 20+ gerbils, 4 goldfish, 1 painted turtle, 2 iguanas, 2 cichlids, 3 oscars, 2 chinchillas, 1 kenyan sand boa, 1 savannah monitor, and 2 degus. Our marching band also has a collective band dog named jokingly 'Merica

 

[ThylacineAlive]

In Michigan at my schools(dual enrollment) we do for social studies:
6th grade: world geography western hemisphere, economics
7th grade: world geography eastern hemisphere, world history part 1
8th grade: american history
9th grade: world studies 2
10th grade: american studies 2
11th grade: government or civics (the other one you do your senior year)

Class pets in science lab over the years: maggots, 20+ gerbils, 4 goldfish, 1 painted turtle, 2 iguanas, 2 cichlids, 3 oscars, 2 chinchillas, 1 kenyan sand boa, 1 savannah monitor, and 2 degus. Our marching band also has a collective band dog named jokingly 'Merica

In middle school we just learn:
6th grade: World History 1
7th grade: World History 2 (I remember learning a lot about colonial and early America)
8th grade: U.S. History (learned a lot about wars)

It's the same classes in the same order that we take them in grades 9-11 in high school except we go into further detail and learn about some slightly different things (e.g. In 6th grade we spent well over a month learning about Greek Mythology but in 9th we spent maybe a day or two learning about GM and spent most of our time learning about the actual ancient civilization).