Things That Irritate You in Life

PossumRoach said:
So I decided to get into drawing after getting a new ipad and installing procreate, but I still feel finicky and never end up liking what I drew. Sometimes the things I draw take longer than what they should, especially considering the fact that the end product is just rookie work. As recent as now, I tried to draw an Arabian oryx using reference pictures but I ended up drawing the proportions off and feel discouraged from drawing. Instead of giving up I decided to trace using the photos I previously used as references, which I was hesitant to before, but now I feel shame.

It blows because part of the reason why I want to get into drawing is that I have come up with the conclusion that among fantasy and other fiction, the type I prefer (basically like the Katurran Odyssey) will never be popular amongst normies, and won’t be made. Which is why I need to take matters into my own hands and start drawing. But creating those worlds and stories will take a hot minute with the rate I am doing things.
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A passion is a good thing to have. Unless you are a Mozart, I think most things take an amount of talent and practice - even some of the finest artists have 'early periods' their work evolved through. Not everything happens instantly and if you like doing it and have a goal to aim for, I wouldn't be discouraged by starting slow. I look at photos I took years ago I am a much better photographer now, through practice and more of it. Perhaps look at some drawing resources or start with something more basic. Lots of things take a long time, often if they are worth doing. It's frustrating not to get something instantly and we live in a world now where it's expected much of the time, but maybe it's more rewarding if you go on a journey and get there in the end.
 
PossumRoach said:
As recent as now, I tried to draw an Arabian oryx using reference pictures but I ended up drawing the proportions off and feel discouraged from drawing. Instead of giving up I decided to trace using the photos I previously used as references, which I was hesitant to before, but now I feel shame
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I get that quite a bit, though I'd say if tracing does help you develop a better understanding of your subject, I'd say do it and perhaps when you're more confident you can "take the training wheels off" so to speak.

I myself use a little bit of both, creating a physical sketch, uploading it to IbisPaint and then use a reference image to warp the sketch into the proper proportions, then drawing over that sketch, that, for me, helps alleviate a lot of the shame as I learn to be a better artist.

PossumRoach said:
Which is why I need to take matters into my own hands and start drawing. But creating those worlds and stories will take a hot minute with the rate I am doing things.
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I also relate quite greatly to this. My reason for starting art again is to create assets for my board game and card game projects, since I'm not financially stable enough to commission artists on a large scale. All the best for your projects.
 
Lafone said:
It's frustrating not to get something instantly and we live in a world now where it's expected much of the time, but maybe it's more rewarding if you go on a journey and get there in the end.
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You just hit the nail on the head.

Mossman Joe said:
I myself use a little bit of both, creating a physical sketch, uploading it to IbisPaint and then use a reference image to warp the sketch into the proper proportions, then drawing over that sketch, that, for me, helps alleviate a lot of the shame as I learn to be a better artist.
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Funnily enough i did the warping (or something similar to it) when I was drawing a mountain goat. I noticed that the abdomen was far too long so I placed a photo of the goat under the outline and color layers before cutting several pieces of the goat and placing them onto the right spot before reconnecting them. I didn’t want to go through the same process with the oryx again which is why I ended up trying to draw without tracing first before giving in.

Mossman Joe said:
I also relate quite greatly to this. My reason for starting art again is to create assets for my board game and card game projects, since I'm not financially stable enough to commission artists on a large scale. All the best for your projects.
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I know the feeling of being unable to commissioning artists.

Thanks, I appreciate it
 
I also get frustrated when I try to create something and it doesn't match my expectations but I am slowly realizing just how wrong it is to focus so much on the result. It's the act of drawing that matters, and actually the people that are bad at something and keep doing it anyways are the brave ones and deserve all our respect.
 
DaLilFishie said:
When people refer to breeds of domestic animals as species or vice versa - eg. "german shepherds are my favourite dog species" or "what breed of frog is this in my garden?". Perhaps pedantic but what am I if not a pedant :p
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In a similar vein, a lot of people seem to misuse the term "subspecies". I think some take it to mean different species of the same "type" of animal rather than genetically distinct groups within a single species. For example, online I've heard black and white rhinos referred to as different rhino subspecies, and spotted and striped hyenas as different subspecies of hyena (despite the fact that with both examples I gave, the species in question aren't even in the same genus).
 
evilmonkey239 said:
In a similar vein, a lot of people seem to misuse the term "subspecies". I think some take it to mean different species of the same "type" of animal rather than genetically distinct groups within a single species. For example, online I've heard black and white rhinos referred to as different rhino subspecies, and spotted and striped hyenas as different subspecies of hyena (despite the fact that with both examples I gave, the species in question aren't even in the same genus).
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Yes, I've heard this too. I recall once reading an article online which referred to the Olive Sea Snake as "a subspecies of sea snake", as if there was only one species of sea snake...
 
Zoos passing cinderblock-walled rooms with glass ceilings, bright red mulch substrates, and a few scattered Dracaenas, Pothos, and tree philodendrons, (still potted in the black plastic nursery pots, of course) and calling it a “Rainforest walkthrough”. Even worse, zoos passing random bird species off as “rainforest” species that would never be found there, such as kookaburras, superb starlings, troupials, and weavers. The worst I’ve seen are roadrunners in one chaotic mix at a zoo in my home state that also included golden pheasants, various native sliders, peacocks, and black swans.
 
AndyJ08 said:
Zoos passing cinderblock-walled rooms with glass ceilings, bright red mulch substrates, and a few scattered Dracaenas, Pothos, and tree philodendrons, (still potted in the black plastic nursery pots, of course) and calling it a “Rainforest walkthrough”. Even worse, zoos passing random bird species off as “rainforest” species that would never be found there, such as kookaburras, superb starlings, troupials, and weavers. The worst I’ve seen are roadrunners in one chaotic mix at a zoo in my home state that also included golden pheasants, various native sliders, peacocks, and black swans.
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Kookaburras aren't the most horrendous thing to include in a rainforest-themed area, I've seen them in rainforest areas in the wild (eg. Mt Hypipamee NP).
 
Zoos posting AI generated stuff and not caring about the impacts! And AI generated educational panels, like what? That's something basically every czech zoo does now and it is driving me crazy. Dvůr is posting AI generated videos to get people to adopt their animals and it makes me really angry, especially their responses to my comments on how bad it is for the environment. They just don't care...
 
merlin said:
Zoos posting AI generated stuff and not caring about the impacts! And AI generated educational panels, like what? That's something basically every czech zoo does now and it is driving me crazy. Dvůr is posting AI generated videos to get people to adopt their animals and it makes me really angry, especially their responses to my comments on how bad it is for the environment. They just don't care...
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A recently-opened zoo in my area has AI-generated signage... shameful.
 
I hate how overly harsh people are when they review zoos and post them on online question forums (Reddit, Tripadvisor, Quora, etc.). The vast majority say "oh that ___ looks so lonely" without knowing the backstory behind it being alone (such as if it is a bull elephant, who literally only ever lives alone in the wild except for breeding, or if an animal is quite elderly or severely injured and should NOT be placed with other animals) or if there are more of those species at that zoo that they just didn't see that day.
 
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