Edinburgh Zoo Thoughts on Edinburgh Zoo

Shirokuma

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I made a couple of visits to the zoo recently and unfortunately I wasn’t very impressed. This isn’t a comprehensive review, rather my thoughts on what struck me (mostly negatively).

I thought a lot about how to write this and if to write it at all because I don’t want to bash a place for the sake of it, especially a place I am genuinely fond of. I want to be supportive of good zoos and for this to be as constructive as possible. For this reason I decided not to include photos. Although they did not show any animal welfare issues (I didn’t see any) they wouldn’t show the zoo in its best light.

I hadn’t been to the zoo for around ten years. All my recent zoo visits have been in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, the Netherlands and the Nordic countries and Edinburgh does not compare favourably with any of these. I stress it isn’t a bad zoo and I didn’t see anything that raised concerns about welfare. My criticisms regard the overall package and state of the zoo and are rooted in concern and disappointment. Like seeing an old friend who for some reason, just isn’t looking after themselves anymore.

I should stress that I don’t like zoos with excessive theming. My favourite zoos are places like Basel, Dählhölzli, Alpenzoo and Korkeasaari. I like a tidy, serious zoo with a clear sense of what it does and why. My comments aren’t based on complaining that Edinburgh isn’t what it isn’t, so to speak. I don’t expect wooded paddocks to suddenly lose their basic fences for mock rock hot wired moats and waterfalls. This isn’t California and I don’t want it to be California. I want Edinburgh to be Edinburgh. But it’s not even doing a very good job of that.

A zoo in this climate and latitude is not going to look its best mid-winter. But there’s sadly a general air of neglect about the place. Rusty fence posts covered in algae, scruffy looking wire, torn mesh, peeling paint, not to mention empty enclosures and gaps where I know enclosures used to be. I won’t address the shrinking collection in great detail here, rather the site that is left behind. And it feels very much left behind.

Edinburgh zoo has a wonderful location with enormous potential but it is often so untidy in terms of infrastructure. It seems there is little eye for detail and very little sense of polish or finesse about the place.

This isn’t always a question of money. Let’s take the koala viewing corridor as an example. An (interactive?) interpretive sign has been covered - but only partially - with plywood. Presumably because it was broken or was considered a covid transmission risk. Could the right size piece of wood not be found? It could have been completely covered with some simple, basic temporary signage at very little cost. To be fair an A4 notice about the koala’s eye injury has now been pinned on to it. But it still looks abandoned, neglected, scruffy. And unnecessarily so. It could easily be addressed at presumably little cost. But for some reason, it hasn’t.

At every window in the viewing corridor the concrete is chipped and the paint peeling. It looks dreadful. Could this not be fixed? In the main viewing area of the koala house an ad hoc barrier has been formed of plant pots, some kind of rock and a retractable belt barrier that doesn't reach across the full length of the windows. Again, it’s a mess. It looks like some random objects have been left there. Some random objects have been left there. Could a more permanent and less unsightly solution not be found to address the real need to keep people away from the glass?

These are the only koalas in Scotland and only one other zoo in the UK has them but they are presented in a tired, cluttered and frankly shabby building.

Speaking of unique species with disappointing accommodation…

The giant panda panda enclosure has some pros but many cons in my opinion. I find the layout baffling. Firstly it has cross-views. You look across the enclosure and see other zoo visitors looking back at you. In an older part of the zoo this would be understandable but in a purpose built 21st century enclosure this is just sloppy and - crucially - easily avoided.

There’s a lot of walking. You walk along to the indoor dens which is a dead-end so you then go back and up and back in the same direction again to look down towards where you were before. The entire concept, layout and construction seems to be poorly thought out despite it being custom built and recently so. If you are by the indoor viewing and a panda is inside and then goes outside you might have a long walk all the way around to the other side of the paddock to see it. By which time it could be back inside.

There’s no sense of journey, of discovery, of a cohesive experience. And I don’t mean immersion or theming. I don’t mean pretending you’re in China. I just mean one path that takes you along the enclosures without back tracking and seeing more of other visitors than pandas.

The climbing structures are clunky and ugly. Could nothing more naturalistic be sourced within budget? And it’s a shame because the natural environment within the enclosures is quite lovely. The ubiquitous wire deer fencing is no doubt economical but renders decent photography uninterrupted by barriers difficult for the average visitor. It’s also hard to take pictures of the pandas in their inside dens (viewed from outside) as the screens sheltering the small viewing areas are limited and reflections are terrible.

I won’t get into the economics or wisdom of keeping the pandas as I don’t know enough to make an informed comment but they were clearly popular with the visitors who were there. The viewing areas were always busy with excited visitors.

At the top of the enclosure the former savannah lookout walkway has pandas on one side (does a panda ever make it up to this part of the enclosure I wonder. It would be great if they do take advantage of the space) and zebras on the other. I’d like to think there are solid husbandry reasons for keeping the zebras in this rocky paddock and I appreciate that Edinburgh isn’t geographically zoned but to me this windy hilltop seems to be crying out for something like a herd of takin which would nicely complement the pandas. Or Przewalski’s horses. Which are over by the giraffes. From Africa. A swap with the zebras seems an obvious choice but what do I know? It feels like a missed opportunity to present the pandas in the wider context of Asian wildlife or, in the case of the horses, also another narrative of zoos being instrumental in saving a species from extinction.

The lowland nyala are kept in a nearby paddock with a distinctively highland feel - I think takin used to be here. There is a strange sort of cave-like shelter made out of, amongst other things, what looks like old fence panels. The Chinese goral down the hill has something similar but at least that’s been covered in turf. I get that it is economical and sustainable but it looks like something left out for the council to take away or the beginnings of a bonfire. It’s scruffy and shabby.

The giraffe house is broadly well done given the constraints faced by the zoo and very much a positive development but there is a sign by the entrance saying stay on the path. People clearly do not stay on the path because leaving it slightly allows viewing of the giraffes if they are on the hard standing to the side of the house. So why design the path and enclosure like this?

Many buildings are showing their age. The pebble dashed hippo and cassowary house looks like a 1960s municipal park toilet block. I’m being picky here, I admit. I’d be more forgiving if the view of the pygmy hippo paddock as a whole didn’t feature a shed, copious amounts of old metal fencing and no-access chains in bright red and white. The whole thing is an eye-sore. Inside the house the tegu enclosure features a “Little tikes” plastic paddling pool shaped like a turtle. It’s like something from a rundown animal sanctuary. Really inexcusable.

The nearby enclosures for rhino and porcupine are aesthetically messy to say the least. Again, I’m not calling for immersive theming or architectural showcases but so many buildings are just tired and aged and frankly unattractive with lots of heavy visible bars, railings, ramps and walls which are simply ugly and intrusive.

The red panda enclosure is another good example of clunky infrastructure with the keeper access gate fenced off in a large box-like structure taking up a huge amount of space in a very limited viewing area. I know you can’t just change something like this overnight but it’s one of a multitude of small details which together add up to a very messy feel.

Rocks by the path alongside the lion enclosure are roped off with a rope barrier that is, again, ugly and intrusive. If the public must indeed be protected from this dangerous landscape, could it not be done with something more attractive and in-keeping with the surrounding environment?

Far too much of the zoo looks like something you might expect from a privately owned country collection that is only just getting by, perhaps recently taken over by well-intentioned but overstretched plucky amateurs.

Paved footpaths are often uneven and poorly maintained. There’s chicken wire and temporary metal fencing all over the place. Traffic cones pop up here and there. Autumn leaves and pine needles get stuck in wire fences and aren’t removed. I should add I did see at least two staff members going around picking up litter.

Budongo is good in many ways but is already showing signs of wear and tear in the public areas. I’m not a chimp fan so admittedly I didn’t linger. As you leave the building there’s a garden shed to the side. It looks messy and amateurish. No doubt it has a useful and important function but can it be hidden somehow? Not with mock rock or a fake African village but maybe a stand of bamboo or even a wattle fence. It's not the worst thing I saw but again, it's about a holistic approach to the appearance of the site and an attention to detail.

Up by the giraffes a service building and metal shipping container are directly next to the path. The building I could forgive but the container? It also has what looked like a dismantled metal gate propped up against it. Again, it’s a mess. Nearby is still a peeling sign board by the top paddock fence. It looks shabby and abandoned. It is shabby and abandoned. Why isn’t it just removed?

The main sign with a penguin outside the entrance needs a good wash…

Some positives... the zoo’s marketing around Edinburgh is excellent. On buses in particular, many of which are decorated entirely with a single species (with a wide variety included) and related slogan. This is all very impressive and creates a real impression of a zoo at the heart of the city’s life. And it’s something people in the city have commented on.

The staff members and volunteers I met or interacted with were lovely. Friendly, kind and helpful. Really impressive.

There are some nice murals and signage.

Edinburgh is a major city, a significant European capital with an international outlook. It is a cultural and historic destination in its own right and a springboard for tourist experiences and travels in the rest of Scotland. It deserves a zoo which reflects this status. At the moment it doesn’t have that and sadly I don’t have much confidence in it getting it.

I’ll conclude with a quote from David Attenborough posted at the zoo entrance:

Edinburgh Zoo has shown not only what zoos can be, but also what they should be”.


Sigh.
 
This is a very well written post and Edinburgh Zoo, which has been criticized heavily by many zoo nerds during the past decade, does indeed sound shabby and in need of an overhaul. I really appreciated the fact that the writing was not a rant, but instead a point-by-point analysis of a zoo that has perhaps lost its way a little. Thanks for posting @Shirokuma.
 
Some very well-written thoughts which sum up many of the same observations and feelings I have regarding the collection!

Two minor points:

At the top of the enclosure the former savannah lookout walkway has pandas on one side (does a panda ever make it up to this part of the enclosure I wonder. It would be great if they do take advantage of the space)

A lot of the area on that side of the walkway is actually inaccessible to the pandas as I recall, being planted with bamboo to fill the space.

The red panda enclosure is another good example of clunky infrastructure with the keeper access gate fenced off in a large box-like structure taking up a huge amount of space in a very limited viewing area. I know you can’t just change something like this overnight but it’s one of a multitude of small details which together add up to a very messy feel.

It's not even a case of "not changing something...overnight" given the fact the red panda is a recent addition (previously the enclosure held North American Porcupine) and the surrounding fenced-off area to one side of the enclosure and leading behind it *used* to be publically-accessible :p so that's actually a recent choice.
 
Far too much of the zoo looks like something you might expect from a privately owned country collection that is only just getting by, perhaps recently taken over by well-intentioned but overstretched plucky amateurs.

A very perceptive comparison here! And very sad that Edinburgh is currently in this sort of condition too.
 
Some of your points are certainly valid and in some cases unforgivable.
And hopefully somebody from RZSS is following this thread.
Sometimes it takes a fresh pair of eyes.
Regarding the new giant panda enclosures, I would like to say that, there were time constraints involved in the planning and execution of the development.
Therefore, perhaps not the ideal exhibit, but certainly not that bad, from the animals point of view it is fine and if the pandas are moving on in the next couple of years, it would be a waste to theme the entire hillside.
 
Thank you for the comments. I am glad it’s struck a chord and has been taken in the spirit in which it was intended.

A lot of the area on that side of the walkway is actually inaccessible to the pandas as I recall, being planted with bamboo to fill the space.

Yes, as you first walk down the wooden walkway there is an area of bamboo to your right but as you get to the end there is viewing of the top end of the panda enclosure as well as the zebra paddock.

Regarding the new giant panda enclosures, I would like to say that, there were time constraints involved in the planning and execution of the development.
Therefore, perhaps not the ideal exhibit, but certainly not that bad, from the animals point of view it is fine and if the pandas are moving on in the next couple of years, it would be a waste to theme the entire hillside.

Just to clarify, my concerns are first and foremost about the layout and the route of the path, not the lack of theming. On the whole I dislike theming and the lack of it here is actually something I appreciate. As an enclosure for animals it is fine but as a zoo exhibit it fails on a number of points.
 
I largely agree with your point and you pick up on a lot of things I've noticed. However, I believe the side of the red panda enclosure is inaccessible to give the animals more privacy, especially when Ginger has young.
 
I largely agree with your point and you pick up on a lot of things I've noticed. However, I believe the side of the red panda enclosure is inaccessible to give the animals more privacy, especially when Ginger has young.

I don't mean that part being inaccessible. On the other side - the side as you approach from the flamingo side, so to speak, there is a large three sided box-like structure which encloses the keeper access gate.
 
A zoo in this climate and latitude is not going to look its best mid-winter. But there’s sadly a general air of neglect about the place. Rusty fence posts covered in algae, scruffy looking wire, torn mesh, peeling paint, not to mention empty enclosures and gaps where I know enclosures used to be. I won’t address the shrinking collection in great detail here, rather the site that is left behind. And it feels very much left behind.
I went to Edinburgh Zoo back in October, and I know what you mean. There were entire stretches of the zoo where I saw no animals at all. No-shows happen at every zoo, but by the time I saw the twelfth "We're sorry, this animal is currently off-show/enclosure is currently empty/area is closed for Covid" sign, I couldn't help but think the visit wasn't worth the money. I didn't notice the rusty fence posts or peeling paint as much, but the empty enclosures and unused space were pretty noticeable.
It was also a shame that the "Wee Beasties" building (where what remains of the zoo's reptiles and amphibians are kept) is still closed, and I'm surprised in the coming-up-to two years since they closed it they haven't worked out a way to re-open the building, especially when you consider that their blue poison arrow frogs are still prominent in the zoo's marketing, with one of those themed city buses you mentioned focusing on them. I did wonder if anything was even still in there.
Edinburgh has plans for some big redevelopments in the next few years, such as updating the rhino, penguin and sun bear enclosures, as well as a new tropical walkthrough, so perhaps they're scrimping hard on money to make these a reality, and the current level of neglect is a result of that.
At the top of the enclosure the former savannah lookout walkway has pandas on one side (does a panda ever make it up to this part of the enclosure I wonder. It would be great if they do take advantage of the space) and zebras on the other. I’d like to think there are solid husbandry reasons for keeping the zebras in this rocky paddock and I appreciate that Edinburgh isn’t geographically zoned but to me this windy hilltop seems to be crying out for something like a herd of takin which would nicely complement the pandas. Or Przewalski’s horses. Which are over by the giraffes. From Africa. A swap with the zebras seems an obvious choice but what do I know? It feels like a missed opportunity to present the pandas in the wider context of Asian wildlife or, in the case of the horses, also another narrative of zoos being instrumental in saving a species from extinction.
The zebras actually did used to live in the paddock where the Przewalski's horses are now, a couple of years ago, back when the giraffe house was still a pipe-dream. The Przewalski's horses are fairly new to the zoo's line-up, this didn't occur to me while I was there, but it would make more sense to keep the zebras where they originally were, next to the giraffe house.
 
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@Jambi I couldn't agree more with your points. I was also looking forward to seeing the reptiles and amphibians in Wee beasties.

It's a shame the bird aviary closed as they had some very nice species. I am just wondering could they incorporate some of the smaller bird species with the sloths and armadillos? It just seems like an awfully large (ish) building for two sloths and two small armadillo species. However I cannot find any bird and sloth shared enclosures, so maybe its not advisable.
 
It's a shame the bird aviary closed as they had some very nice species. I am just wondering could they incorporate some of the smaller bird species with the sloths and armadillos? It just seems like an awfully large (ish) building for two sloths and two small armadillo species. However I cannot find any bird and sloth shared enclosures, so maybe its not advisable.

I believe London does/did have birds in the Clore rainforest enclosure.
 
@Jambi I couldn't agree more with your points. I was also looking forward to seeing the reptiles and amphibians in Wee beasties.

It's a shame the bird aviary closed as they had some very nice species. I am just wondering could they incorporate some of the smaller bird species with the sloths and armadillos? It just seems like an awfully large (ish) building for two sloths and two small armadillo species. However I cannot find any bird and sloth shared enclosures, so maybe its not advisable.
Drusillas Park has, for a long time now had sloths in with Violet Turacos and they seem to work ok, even if they're not from the same parts of the world in the wild.
 
Some really good points made here which I agree with. I'm an RZSS member so have seen many species sadly leave the collection, to make space for species which do better on social media or cut costs down - My main example of this would be the diverse bird collection being removed to then be replaced with the sloths and armadillos, myself and many others were very sad to see species such as the Socorro doves leave the collection.
 
To give them a bit of credit, I visited back in the summer and I noticed that a lot of work had actually been done regarding repainting and repairing, there was a lot of work being done at the time aswell, I can recall having to move from watching the cassowary as someone was working along the fence with a paintbrush. :p It was looking a lot better than my visit in October 2020 so I’d like to think they are making somewhat of an effort to fix some of the issues you’ve mentioned.
 
One of the Trumpeters - assuming there was more than one - was a very tame bird indeed. I was once leaning on the railing in the Clore when it landed on the balustrade next to me and began amiably pecking me on the chest.
 
I believe London does/did have birds in the Clore rainforest enclosure.

They have Northern helmeted curassows in the Clore.

Various other bird species, including sunbittern and grey-winged trumpeter, have also been kept in the Clore Rainforest exhibit.
So with all of this in mind, it seems at least a few of the birds in what is now the sloth house could have stayed. It is a shame, Brilliant Birds was one of my favourite exhibits too, I remember they used to have fish tanks and a leafcutter ant set-up in there too, so it's not even just the birds. I do hope Edinburgh does an exhibit like this again one day.
 
I went to Edinburgh Zoo back in October, and I know what you mean. There were entire stretches of the zoo where I saw no animals at all. No-shows happen at every zoo, but by the time I saw the twelfth "We're sorry, this animal is currently off-show/enclosure is currently empty/area is closed for Covid" sign, I couldn't help but think the visit wasn't worth the money. I didn't notice the rusty fence posts or peeling paint as much, but the empty enclosures and unused space were pretty noticeable.
It was also a shame that the "Wee Beasties" building (where what remains of the zoo's reptiles and amphibians are kept) is still closed, and I'm surprised in the coming-up-to two years since they closed it they haven't worked out a way to re-open the building, especially when you consider that their blue poison arrow frogs are still prominent in the zoo's marketing, with one of those themed city buses you mentioned focusing on them. I did wonder if anything was even still in there.
Edinburgh has plans for some big redevelopments in the next few years, such as updating the rhino, penguin and sun bear enclosures, as well as a new tropical walkthrough, so perhaps they're scrimping hard on money to make these a reality, and the current level of neglect is a result of that.

The zebras actually did used to live in the paddock where the Przewalski's horses are now, a couple of years ago, back when the giraffe house was still a pipe-dream. The Przewalski's horses are fairly new to the zoo's line-up, this didn't occur to me while I was there, but it would make more sense to keep the zebras where they originally were, next to the giraffe house.
Thing with the wee beasties, it just reopened about 2 weeks ago.
 
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