They're ok :p I'd get one again.

I want to try a fried Mars bar, though!

~Thylo

Oh, right you are. The Wikipedia article didn't lead with calling it "an orange-flavored chocolate treat that is both tastefully and structurally brilliant" and I jumped hastily to wrong conclusions :oops:



Truly horrifying, but I wish you good luck on that endeavor nonetheless.

Deep-fried Mars bars are much nicer than you'd expect. Just think of them as gooey chocolate, caramel and nougat fritters.

The Terry's Chocolate Orange, on the other hand, deserves to be ranked at the very pinnacle of human endeavour. It is a thing of joy and wonder.
 
Deep-fried Mars bars are much nicer than you'd expect. Just think of them as gooey chocolate, caramel and nougat fritters.

The Terry's Chocolate Orange, on the other hand, deserves to be ranked at the very pinnacle of human endeavour. It is a thing of joy and wonder.

It's not often that I disagree with you @Maguari but I think you're wrong on both counts, chocolate orange is just horrible, pales in to comparison when compared to mint chocolate! :)

And as for fried Mars bars, just no. When I were a lad the local chip shop used to batter whatever chocolate bars we gave them and I can honestly say that Snickers are much, much better! :p :D

And I still hate you for Saturday, nothing personal like! ;)
 
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It's not often that I disagree with you @Maguari but I think you're wrong on both counts, chocolate orange is just horrible, pales in to comparison when compared to mint chocolate! :)

And as for fried Mars bars, just no. When I were a lad the local chip shop used to batter whatever chocolate bars we gave them and I van honestly say that Snickers are much, much better! :p :D

And I still hate you for Saturday, nothing personal like! ;)

And I thought we could be friends... :(



;)
 
Deep-fried Mars bars are much nicer than you'd expect. Just think of them as gooey chocolate, caramel and nougat fritters.

I appreciate the effort @Maguari, but to be honest thinking of them as "gooey fritters" makes me even less inclined ;)

Mind you, I live in a country (and hail from a particular region of that country) where you can deep-fry just about anything: Oreos, Twinkies, butter, mac and cheese, pizza, cheesecake, even jelly beans... besides mac and cheese (which is life-changing), I've developed an aversion to this trend to protect my health!

You always make sure you get all the important food groups though - stout, ale and lager :p

Now *that* is a sentiment I can get behind! :D
 
If you haven't had a Terry's Chocolate Orange you haven't lived.
Are you saying there were no life forms before the invention of the Terry's Chocolate Orange? if so, did 'God' invent the Terry's Chocolate Orange? Do other Zoochatters believe in Crowthorne's 'Theory of Evolution'?
 
Are you saying there were no life forms before the invention of the Terry's Chocolate Orange? if so, did 'God' invent the Terry's Chocolate Orange? Do other Zoochatters believe in Crowthorne's 'Theory of Evolution'?

Before the Big Bang, there existed but a single Terry's Chocolate Orange, the event horizon from which all the universe exploded, everyone knows that ;)
 
I will never forget our first meeting at Sandbach railway station car park, Thylo. I was amazed at how close we were in height, there is not much in it, give a yard or two :D
 
August 1: RAIN

Perhaps the rainiest day of the entire trip was when we visited Exmoor Zoological Park and Tropiquaria Zoo. I understand that the UK is quite rainy so I think I got pretty lucky weather-wise on my trip as most days were clear with only a little sprinkling here or there. Today was quite different, however.

The biggest surprise of the day came on the drive to Exmoor, before the rain began, when we ended up driving through Cheddar Gorge, something none of us had anticipated doing. The gorge was very impressive, especially once we started seeing herds of sheep feeding on the steep inclines, and we made sure to stop for a moment to take it all in. The best part was the fact that this was both zoogiraffe and Nisha’s first visit to the natural wonder, which had been sitting on zg’s bucket list of places to visit I believe. For those of you questioning the name, the Cheddar is named after the nearby town of Cheddar, where they invented cheddar. It is also the original home of the Cheddar Man. I will not elaborate further.

Exmoor Zoo is one of those zoos that I feel aren’t on a lot of people’s radar outside of the UK but is home to some wonderful species. It’s definitely one of the smaller more unique collections, with a lot large wire cages dotted all over the place holding highlight species such as Swamp Wallaby, Northern Yellow-Throated Marten, Cambodian Binturong (which are significantly larger than your average zoo-mix Binturong!), Guianan Tayra, Black-Tufted Marmoset, Silvery Marmoset, Red-Handed Tamarin, Little Bittern, Southern Festive Amazon, Pacific Parrotlet, Palm-Nut Vulture, and Crowned Lapwing. The zoo also has a unique collection of ibises more or less exhibited in a row: Puna Ibis, Buff-Necked Ibis, Black-Faced Ibis, Oriental White Ibis, and Straw-Necked Ibis. One important reason for me wanting to visit the zoo was that it held three very nice cat lifers for me: Tibetan Golden Cat, Sri Lankan Rusty-Spotted Cat, and Palawan Leopard Cat. Unfortunately due to the rain, many of the zoo’s animals were sticking to their indoor housing and the cats were no exception. Thankfully for me, most of these have a window into them. This made viewing the golden cat very easy until the animal did decide to step out into its outdoor enclosure for a short while. The problem here, though, is many of the windows are a bit hard to see into for some reason. Additionally the other two cats had enclosures that were completely overgrown with bamboo, something several keepers were working to cut down around the amazon aviaries. This meant that we could see two small, fuzzy blobs sitting inside the indoor housing. We went back and forth trying to figure out which was which until the owner of the site (who was cutting down bamboo) overheard us and informed us that both animals were Rusty-Spotted Cats and the collection was temporarily out of Leopard Cats. Disappointing, but we ended up having a great chat with the owner who discussed with us some collection plans and even the cryptic Exmoor Big Cat!

On the drive between Exmoor Zoo and Tropiquaria I got to see some more lovely natural scenery in the form of the hills of Exmoor. The drive was pretty rainy and very foggy, which gave the landscape a very eerie feel. While it was cool to see the area like this, it meant that wildlife watching was out of the question. However, we did manage to spot a couple Exmoor Ponies which was pretty cool but not exactly what I had in mind. During this drive we also paid the Woody Bay station on the Lynton and Barnstaple Railway a short visit. While I’m not exactly a big train enthusiast, it was interesting to hear the unique history of the line from the ZooChatter who is.

Tropiquaria Zoo is another one of those little known but very unique UK collections. Built on the grounds of an old radio tower station, the zoo has a unique design and feel to it. Personally I commend any zoo that puts odd bird aviaries along the perimeter of a playground. I must say, though, the indoor portion sometimes felt more like a bunker with fishes than a zoo with an aquarium. That said, the place is very well done and is home to some unique species including Raccoon Dog, Grey Mouse Lemur, White-Fronted Lemur, Southern Red-Fronted Lemur, Ducorp’s Corella, Red-Crowned Amazon, Brown-Necked Parrot, Malagasy Turtle-Dove, Madagascar Girdled Lizard, Sal Island Skink (Chioninia spinalis salensis), and Argus Monitor. The mouse lemurs proved to be an interesting case as they were held in a diurnal enclosure at the time and I saw them easily, which marked the one and only time I saw the species throughout my entire UK trip despite it being kept in various other zoos’ nocturnal houses. While the unique mammals, birds, and reptiles are certainly a plus at this collection, by far the highlight is the unique assortment of fishes kept in the lower halls of the main building. The set-up is simple, rows upon rows of tanks mostly on the left wall and it’s possibly one of the most simplistic and underwhelming-looking aquariums in the zoo world. The species list, however, includes a variety of species very rarely held in captivity as well as a huge assortment of some extremely endangered cichlids and killifishes. I would definitely recommend this zoo to any fish enthusiast. This is the zoo where the rain really kicked off, which is fine due to much of it being indoors unlike Exmoor, but it also meant that I missed a couple desired species such as Asian Palm Civet and Central American Agouti (a species that continued to evade me at several zoos until surprisingly showing up on a visit to a WCS collection earlier this year). Aside from this, the visit was very enjoyable and we managed to chat with the owner here as well for a good time as, of course, he is a friend of zg’s. Upon leaving, I suffered a short reversion back to America and attempted to enter the car through what in the UK is the driver’s side instead of the passenger’s. I thankfully did not make that mistake twice.

In the evening we decided to take zg’s friend out to dinner for putting us up. We talked about maybe looking for Tawny Owls or Great Bustards, but figured we’d save more time for dinner and relaxation. In the end it was a fun evening full of laughs and a very nice way to end our last night in the Southwest.

~Thylo
 
August 2: So Much to Do, So Little Time

The final leg of our Southwest tour brought us to Bristol Zoo, Noah’s Ark Zoo Farm, and WWT Slimbridge Wetland Center. It was another rainy day, though not quite as bad as the day before.

Bristol Zoo is a small but fantastic collection home to an excellent nocturnal house, aquarium, and invertebrate house. Highlight species include New Guinea Ground Cuscus, South American Fur Seal, Livingstone’s Flying Fox, Drill, Aye-Aye, Agile Gibbon, Sunda Wrinkled Hornbill, Socorro Dove, Meller’s Duck, Scrub Python, Malayan Box Turtle, Bourret’s Box Turtle, Keeled Box Turtle, Black Marsh Turtle, Cuban Boa, Splendid Leaf Frog, and Giant Ditch Frog. They also notably hold wild-type Budgerigar. The flying foxes are held in an excellent walk-through aviary dedicated solely to them, and it makes for probably the most extensive display for a bat I’ve ever seen, with them even including a large indoor space that can be viewed through a large window in the aviary. The nocturnal house is unique in that the first part of it is a typical nocturnal house with really good enclosures and an above average collection but then the second part is a model of the inside of a residential home and features an extensive network of interconnected enclosures for House Mouse, Brown Rat, and Black Rat. This section is also more diurnal than nocturnal but it’s part of the same building. The nocturnal house is alo unique for housing two Dasyurid species: Eastern Quoll and Kowari. With my having been to the LA Zoo just 1.5 months prior to my UK trip, this meant that I’d seen my first three Dasyurid species all in one summer! The aquarium is clearly very old and is a fantastic mix of old architecture and modern exhibitry. There are a variety of tanks representing fishes from all over the world, including a Mississippi River tank which is always a treat especially when home to the wonderful American Paddlefish. The invertebrate house is smaller and less specious than London Zoo’s, but I found the enclosures themselves to be much better done. The stars here are unexpectedly the Atlas Moth, various Partula snails, Deserta Grande Wolf Spider, and of course the Lord Howe Island Stick Insect.

Noah’s Ark Zoo Farm is a pretty infamous collection from my understanding. For years I’d heard stories about their religious bias, makeshift enclosures, and overall crappy atmosphere, but all that aside I found it to be a pretty decent place. It’s nowhere near the top of my list for best zoos, and there are some very clear problems present, but it looks like a place working hard to better itself. The newly opened (at the time newly opened) Andean Bear enclosure was spacious and looked good, and the African Bush Elephant yards looked very large in size even if one or two of the indoor pens looked a bit off. Having the word farm in the name implied there would be a lot of domestics present, which I’m not a huge fan of, but they had species like Carpathian Red Deer, Reticulated Giraffe, Chapman’s Zebra, Northern Grey Hornbill, Lilford’s Crane, and White-Headed Vulture to keep me satisfied. Also that odd-looking GuanacoXLlama hybrid was interesting to see, even though I also dislike hybrids. I may have already discussed this with Chester’s Baringo Giraffes (more appropriately called Nubian now I think? Not that many of you would call my old name for them appropriate :p) but some people may wonder why a Reticulated Giraffe would interest me when they’re supposed to be the most common giraffe species in zoos. The answers quite simple: there are no pure animals in the US. The giraffe enclosure here was small from memory, and the house wasn’t exactly great either, though I do recall a particular piece of signage differentiating the different giraffe taxa that was designed by a certain @DavidBrown. This zoo also held a particularly nice North American mammal lifer for me in an Alabama Beach Mouse, something zoogiraffe took a lot of pleasure in finding out. The truth is this was not the first North American species I’d see for the first time during this trip (or even the day, the aforementioned paddlefish was) and it would not be the last, nor will this trip be the only time I see a North American mammal for the first time in a European zoo, but I do see the comedy in this fact. During the time of our visit, the zoo was hosting a venomous snake show by venomous snake “expert” Peter Blake. For those unaware of why I put quotations around the word ‘expert’, let me tell you about his show. For one, this show was being held directly next to the zoo’s indoor children’s playground. I mean literally next to it, there’s a single door with a large gap at the bottom only 10 or so feet away from one of the play sets and in that room there’s nine species of dangerous snakes in tanks against the wall directly next to the door. These species include Terciopelo, Western Diamondback Rattlesnake, Common Saw-Scaled Viper, Monocled Cobra, Forest Cobra, Black-Necked Spitting Cobra, King Cobra, Papuan Taipan, and Eastern Brown Snake incorrectly identified by him as King Brown Snake. Also inside the room with Blake and the snake is an untrained teenage boy sitting at a table running the show’s music and graphics. Perhaps you can place the blame for these things more on the zoo than Blake, but his actual performance still speaks for itself. Blake’s chosen method of showing off these fascinating creatures to the mainly child audience is by having them stand along the glass dividing wall and then repeated provoking the animals to the point to where they start violently striking at the children, hitting the glass wall instead. There is also the fact that, while he would be working with one species, he’d leave other animals’ tanks open. These tanks stacked against a wall that is behind him; his back is to various opened tanks housing various venomous species that he was just provoking while he is provoking another snake in front of him. There is also a teenage boy elsewhere in this room with literally nothing but open space between him and these animals. Again, these tanks are also directly next to a door- that has a gap several inches in size at the bottom of it- that directly opens into a playground filled with running screaming children. It is a miracle amongst miracles that none of these animals ever actually escaped and hurt someone.

The WWT Slimbridge Wetland Center is a collection I was very much looking forward to visiting. They have an almost unrivaled collection of waterfowl from all over the world as well as a large collection of European amphibians and is currently the only place I know of where one can view all six species of flamingo- some very important as half of them were lifers. There’s also a very large protected wetland adjacent to the zoo and we planned to do a bit of birding afterwards. While the promise of all six flamingos certainly met expectations, I was a little disappointed to have missed the majority of amphibians and to find that the center does not hold nearly as many species as ZTL lists for them. There are still an insane amount of birds here and I definitely left with a lot of new species, but it is very clear that the zoo’s ZTL page is in need of a major cleanup. The set-up of the zoo is rather simple, several looping trails with multiple ponds filled with aquatic birds that one either looks in on or walks past within the land area of the enclosure. There’s also a walk-in shorebirds aviary, displays for aquatic mammals like Eurasian Beaver, Eurasian Water Vole, and Eurasian Water Shrew (all of whom I missed here), and a small indoor tropical aviary.

Outside of the zoos themselves, not much eventful happened as we wanted to get to each collection as quickly as possible so as to have enough time to properly see them. However, this day did end up being the one where we did fall a bit behind on time. While Bristol and Noah’s were done at a relaxed pace, Slimbridge was a bit more rushed as, after about halfway around the site, the staff began to herd us out well before the set closing time. I do believe we managed to see the entire place, but I still feel as though I didn’t get to see certain parts properly and there was no time for revisits or birding afterwards as the entire grounds closed at 5pm (pretty early if you ask me, especially compared to America’s Audubon Centers which stay open until dusk). Additionally, even without being able to explore the preserve itself, I still saw a few interesting wild birds and the main target was still seen in the form of a wild Eurasian Crane flying over the road on our way to the collection.

~Thylo
 
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