Did they always just have the two? Or were there originally more? I remember there being 2.2 at some point if I'm not wrong!!Apparently they have 1.1 at the moment.
Did they always just have the two? Or were there originally more? I remember there being 2.2 at some point if I'm not wrong!!Apparently they have 1.1 at the moment.
It is intriguing to read the rankings of Dutch zoos from various individuals on this forum and just to add something to the mix...here are Anthony Sheridan's personal rankings from his 2016 book Zooming in on Europe's Zoos. Since he produced a publication that is almost 500 pages of European zoo analysis then I'll post a small segment of that information here:
Category "A" zoos (1 million or more annual visitors):
Rotterdam - tied 9th best zoo in Europe
Arnhem - 13th best zoo
Amsterdam - 16th best zoo
Category "B" zoos ((500,000+ visitors)
Ouwehands - 10th best zoo (although surely attendance will skyrocket with giant pandas)
Emmen - 14th best zoo (old site)
Amersfoort - 31st best zoo
Beekse Bergen - 34th best zoo
Category "C" zoos (250,000+ visitors)
Kerkrade - tied 11th best zoo
Specialist zoo:
Apenheul
It seems that the list of Rotterdam, Arnhem, Amsterdam, Ouwehands, Emmen (the old zoo), Amersfoort, Beekse Bergen, Kerkrade and Apenheul gives a fairly accurate group of 9 top-notch Dutch zoos that are pretty much in line with the thoughts of ZooChatters. Harderwijk is another zoo that is highly rated, along with Avifauna, but the new Emmen zoo received a fairy poor review in the latest Zoo Grapevine/International Zoo News publication.
I am looking forward to reading that book when I go back to Europe in the summer. I will enjoy muttering angrily about some of the rankings almost as much as I will just reading the vast amount of interesting information.
About the notion of ranking zoos at all, or about Sheridan's approach to it and results?
I've never quite understood the opposition to attempts at (personal) rankings.
I don't think anyone (rational) could oppose any attempts at personal rankings; rather, the antipathy towards Mr Sheridan's approach is that he attempts to instil his own rankings with some sort of quasi-scientific rationale, suggesting that there is something "factual", something subjective about them, when, of course, they are simply a reflection of his own feelings, prejudices and preferences.
About the notion of ranking zoos at all, or about Sheridan's approach to it and results?
I've never quite understood the opposition to attempts at (personal) rankings.
Well as well as finishing the itinerary of notable Dutch zoos, or coming closer to it, I hope to see at least Duisberg in Germany and the best of Belgium (Antwerp, Planckandael and Para Daiza). How far to travel from wherever is a matter of public transport timing: overnight travel is uncomfortable but cuts down hotel costs.I don't really object to anything about it. I disagree with him at times, but then I imagine I would disagree with everyone on this site if they made a similar attempt. The ensuing discussion is the fun bit!
If I were to throw some criticism Sheridan's way, I would say that first of all, having so many parameters 'beneath the surface' that the reader never has explained is very frustrating, and secondly I think such a numeric approach will always produce some real stinkers of results. His ranking system is capable of putting bad zoos with large collections above excellent zoos with small collections, which I disagree with fundamentally.
On a separate note, I'd also like to see sealpup's itinerary, which I'm sure they are capable of producing themselves. The suggestion is often made of establishing a base in Utrecht, because of its central location.
Well as well as finishing the itinerary of notable Dutch zoos, or coming closer to it, I hope to see at least Duisberg in Germany and the best of Belgium (Antwerp, Planckandael and Para Daiza). How far to travel from wherever is a matter of public transport timing: overnight travel is uncomfortable but cuts down hotel costs.
Just a question about the ranking, is Ouwehands 10th overall or 10th within the category 'B' zoos?
I am looking forward to reading that book when I go back to Europe in the summer. I will enjoy muttering angrily about some of the rankings almost as much as I will just reading the vast amount of interesting information.
...with the difference being that none of those nerds would have the chutzpah, or the hubristic arrogance, to suggest that the lists they provided were anything other than a personal choice based on their prejudices, backgrounds, preferences and idiosyncrasies (well, this nerd would not want his lists to be viewed as anything other than this sort of parlour game, anyway). Anyway, back to the Netherlands....Ouwehands is ranked 10th in the category 'B' zoos. Interestingly, Sheridan's rankings of German zoos or Dutch zoos or any nation's zoos usually falls in line with the opinions of most ZooChatters. Some folks grumble about his lists but in actuality Sheridan comes extremely close to many other people with his choices. His overall "top European zoos" list is almost identical to the lists of zoo nerds that I'm friends with.
New article about the Top 10 of Dutch zoos :
Dierentuinen: 10 best zoos in the Netherlands
I found it a little strange that 3 zoos are mentioned which hardly any ZooChatter would consider a Top 10 Zoo ( Sea Life Scheveningen, Pieterburen Seal Sanctuary and Ecomare Texel ) and a few others which surely belong to the Top 10 are not listed like Avifauna, Ouwehand and Amersfoort...
Hi all - it's been several years since this thread had a bump, and 10 years since I visited the big three myself (Artis, Rotterdam, Arnhem). Just curious if anyone has an updated top 10, which zoos have made more recent strides?
I'll likely have a few days of flexibility, and I'm mulling re-visiting Rotterdam or Arnhem vs checking out new. (I'll visit Artis, for sure)
Thanks much.