Toronto Zoo Toronto Zoo Births, Deaths and Transfers 2022

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Ok, verbatim from a keeper's mouth from October 23rd's facebook live (5:00):

"Tilly is one of the reasons that we make sure now that we do not breed our camels over the winter time. Tilly was born March 1st in a snowstorm - she was a little bit of an unexpected baby. What happened is she was actually frozen to the ground and when her mom tried to kind of get her to stand up, her jaw stayed frozen to the ground and it broke."

This led to Tilly being hand-raised, and because the part of her jaw that broke has no teeth in it, her tongue 'falls' out of her mouth. Tilly is currently our oldest camel and she has never had any problems eating.
 
@Kalvin, yeah with 2 having broken jaws its hard to keep them straight. I think mom was to blame both times. I mean if the baby was frozen to the ice you would think keepers would rush to get hot water to free her not rip her from the ground. But a mother camel wouldnt know that keepers could have helped.

I knew I heard that story somewhere. Lol could it be I watched that live? Yep. Do you think I remember thats where I heard it? Nope. I have heard the story many times though for both Tilly and man I wish I remember her name... Alice? I feel like it was Alice.
 
@ProjectGames, Tilly is just fine. Other than her jaw damage and the tongue hanging out is all thats wrong with her. Shes turning 13 this winter and has done just fine in life. Keepers keep an eye on her tongue and if needed treat it if it gets too dry or they worry any about its condition. She doesnt know she's any different then the others. Has no problem eating or drinking either.
 
White cheeked turacos, Bruce Lee and Linda are in breeding season right now and the zoo is really trying to encourage chicks to help rebuild the flock. Unfortunately most of the eggs laid thus far have been broken due to a flimsy nest. The zoo is working on ways to ensure the eggs safety and produce healthy chicks which right now means testing different artificial nests. They are super old though with Bruce being 20 and Linda being 13 when in the wild they would be max 10-12.

The African spoonbills are sitting on 3 eggs right now and they are hoping for chicks in the next couple of weeks. Great we get to miss out on more spoonbill chicks yet again thanks to lockdown. I'll just be happy if they give it a funny name like big sister Reese Witherspoonbill and not like boring sister Rita.

Currently nothing is happening on the sacred ibis breeding front just yet but they are sitting on a nest. Hopefully eggs will be laid soon.

The zoo is down to just one African shelduck Dexter or at least just one living with the ibis and spoonbills.
 
I remember one time I was walking in the African Rainforest Pavilion, and I happened to go by the gorilla bachelors (Nassir and Sadiki). I saw Nassir taking a walk past me, and I decided to take a little walk with him. After a while he seemed annoyed with me, and he threw a fist at the glass lol.
 
Welcome @ProjectGames So nice to have another fellow Toronto Zoo goer and supporter. I had a very similar interaction with Johari she even came to sit by the glass viewing window. But I absolutely love that story about the boys, they are a really fun troop to watch and a very high energy one as well. Love it when they are having standoffs and testing each other's patience.

Also love the Molek profile photo, really miss him, but have you seen Budi lately? Truly an impressive male now over the span of the past 2 years and he's a soon to be father in a few months!
 
Hi @Akula! I'd like to share another interaction I had before with the gorillas. One time, I was in the Pavilion, and I saw Ngozi carrying her adorable baby! Ngozi brought her baby close to the window, and Charlie crawled her way toward me. For the next few minutes, me and Charlie had a "staredown contest", and it one of my favorite interactions I had with an animal!

I'd also tried to make myself look funny by adding a Molek pfp, and I actually tried to change my nick to "Daddy Molek" lol. It's sad that I never got to see Molek at the zoo. I've seen past images of Budi when he was a baby, and its hard to believe that hes all grown up now ready to be a father!
 
Welcome to the group @ProjectGames! Love the Molek pfp, always happy to see a throwback

Big news over at the cheetahs, the zoo confirmed today that Emarah is pregnant! Clark is the father. X-rays indicate she is pregnant with four cubs and her due window is between January 22 and 31.
 
This is great news! let's hope that the cubs are females I guess as Emarahs mother, Laini, is not getting any younger and having a few breeding females would definitely be nice. But 4 cubs is quite nice to hear. I sure hope that Laini is pregnant but if not I'm still happy with the Emarah news!

Also a pretty nice due date as the Zoo will likely be closed. So no distractions for the keepers and higher ups as they can really focus on the birth of the cubs.
 
Really great news that 4 cubs are going to come.

I've asked this before, but does anyone here have any picture of the orangutan Kartiko? I'm really curious to find out what he looked like before.
 
@ProjectGames Unless you strike gold and stumble upon an old family trip video that somehow made its way to YouTube and happens to feature Kartiko I think you're out of luck looking for an image of him. Finding images or video of specific TZ animals that lived and died before the age of digital cameras and online uploads can be mind-bendingly difficult, especially for an animal like Kartiko that unfortunately didn't even last a decade. I know @TZFan came up empty-handed when looking for anything featuring him and when TZFan can't get it done that means it's basically impossible lol.

If you're willing to do some detective work this thread isn't a bad place to start, there's lots of fun nostalgia to be had in there.
 
Unfortunately, no I believe he was quite young when he died so etching around the age of 8 and it was in the late 1990’s so the camera quality was not great maybe the closest thing might be a YouTube video of the orangutan habitat that might have a clip of him in it.
 
The closest I believe I saw Kartiko was when I came across an old 1995 video on the Toronto Zoo, and I'm wasn't sure if its Puppe and Kartiko hanging out or its just a young Ramai playing with baby Sekali.
 
If you can find the video and the quality isn't too poor, someone might be able to tell you who is in the video, the orangs have pretty distinct faces to those familiar with them.
 
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Here's an image I saved from the 1995 video. Both are probably not Kartiko because I guess he wasn't that small or big at 4/5 years old.
 

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@Kalvin thank you for saying if I couldn't find it its impossible. You give me too much credit though. I think finding a photo of him is possible, I just wont pay news papers for archived articles. I bet if someone was interested they could find a Toronto Star article about his death and a photo would be there. I didnt try that route because I didn't want to pay for anything. Cheapness won out over curiosity. But that would be my suggestion. Check out the Star or Sun or Global and Mail or National Post for archived articles about his passing if you are truly interested.

The cheetah cubs are pretty well timed for the zoo. Usually they are extra cautious with cheetah cubs and wont put them on display for 10-12 weeks instead of 8 like other felines. So depending on the cold they might debut in early April. Great for an Easter weekend and huge to draw people in for the spring... Covid willing.
 
@ProjectGames looking at this still, I think we're looking at Ramai and Sekali. Orang faces darken over time and in 1995 we would be looking at a 10-year old Ramai vs. a 28 (ish) year old Puppe. To this day Ramai's face remains considerably lighter than Puppe's. A little more subjective but I think I see Ramai's facial structure in this photo moreso than Puppe. Great find though! I definitely think we need to dig up more old photos from the zoo.
 
Thanks @TZFan and @Kalvin for the help. If he lasted a decade or more, I'm certain that there would be pictures of Kartiko posted around the community. I have some images of past orangs in some family trip videos that you guys may be interested in.
 
Just thought I’d share this Incas edit does result in a pregnancy this past week or few days Budi and Ramai have been together behind the scenes, as well Sekali has been gaining weight with her baby.

Hopefully it’s this week that Budi and Ramai do breed as it would make a late 2022 baby or early 2023 baby.
 
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