Toronto Zoo Toronto Zoo- Births, Deaths, Arrivals and Departures 2013

We had a female chimp from March 26 1976 -Jul 14 1977. Her name was Sudi. She was transferred to a zoo in Spain. Where was she kept? Why did we have just one wild caught chimp? Why for just 1 year?

Never knew it but Holly (gibbon) has had a no breed recommendation since no one knows exactly where shes from. She came to Bowmanville Zoo but before that is a mystery at least to the AZA. Lenny is the top ranked male but hes given a no breed designation and not due to age. I guess it could be that hes not bred before or shown any interest and hes happy with Holly so why bother moving an older animal. Holly is 41 this year and Lenny is 38.
 
I never knew that the zoo had a chimp! Now I'm starting to wonder about the zoo's other apes. If the gibbons are too old to breed, the gorillas are almost all related and Charles is getting old, and I haven't heard anything about the orangutans breeding, does the zoo have any plans to bring in new apes that can breed? I would love to see more baby orangutans and gorillas, and gibbon babies look really cute.
 
The December 2012 Gorilla management still suggests Subira as the top consideration as a replacement for Charles should he die before Ngozi become pregnant again. Since I screwed up last time I read an early recommendation Ill post what they wrote.

Under Toronto it says...
If Charles (sb 551) passes, consider transferring GRANBY’s Subira (sb 1368) to TORONTO to breed w/Ngozi (sb 1503).

Under Granby it says...
Consider 1.0 Subira (sb1368) as a breeding replacement for TORONTO silverback Charles (sb551), if he passes. Subira is related to 0.1 Johari (sb1679) but could breed with 0.1 Ngozi (sb1503).

Im guessing he will be the top contender for silverback and additional females will be brought in while Johari and Sadiki leave... possibly Nassir too based on his age when Charles passes. At this time though they are to actively be trying to breed Charles and Ngozi.

As of Feb 1 2013 all the orangs are to stay here. Puppe now has a no breeding recommendation due to her age so Budi should be her last. Jingga wont be allowed to breed until shes 14 according to the notes on her.

Just discovered there is no Arctic fox SSP or studbook. Sorry Quartz.

Hyenas Pinduli and Moja have a no breeding recommendation from summer 2012. It says... 302 Moja and 328 Pinduli are not a priority to breed for genetic reasons (genetically over-represented and related to each other). They both relate to the group the University of Berkley keeps. Its where we origionally got Owl, Rabbit, Tigger and Woozle from. And yet they are letting Moja get the pulp beaten out of him trying to breed.
 
Ok thanks TZFan. I'm a little disappointed that when Charles passes away, the zoo will be acquiring a gorilla that is related to all but one of the female gorillas. I think it would be better to get an unrelated male who could breed with all of the females.

It's too bad we won't be seeing any baby orangs anytime soon. Hopefully Jingga will be able to breed at the zoo when she turns 14.

I don't understand why the zoo would allow the hyenas to breed and get injured when trying to breed if they are related and there is no breeding recommendation for them. Why doesn't the zoo just separate the hyenas? :confused:
 
I dont know why when they asked for a hyena pair they didnt ask for a pair that could breed and contribute instead of a pair that we will have trouble placing in North America. I suppose they might want the cubs to ship overseas in trade for something else. I dont get it either.

Subira is on of the highest ranked males for genetic value so getting him will likely give us an excellent shot at new females. Josephine isnt a consideration as shes post reproductive. And if Charles is healthy Johari will likely be gone before Subira would return. She was supposed to go to last summer but Shalia went in her place so they will look for a new home for her again in awhile. Probably sooner if Josephine passes, maybe a year or two if she does. Sadiki will likely have to go in the near future as he matures. That would just leave Nassir and any full siblings he has.
 
Was at the zoo on Sunday, here are some updates:

--There are a number of Bluegill Rockbass now in the Beaver exhibit pool along with the formely alone Large Mouth Bass.
--The former Butterfly Goodeid and Tetras exhibits in Americas have a unidentified species of fish in them but no sign.
--Cuivers Caiman back on display in the Mata Mata Turtle Exhibit, Mata Mata Turtles are no longer in the exhibit and their sign has been replaced...
--Giant Pacific Octopus back on display. I assumed this is the new one, as it looks much larger then the previous Octopus that had passed away
--Primate Wing closed in Americas. I looked through the crack in the door and all paint and exhibit 'furniture' is gone.
--Fireback Pheasant is now in the former red billed magpie, aka. the former prevost squirrel exhibit
--Jumbo Gourami are now in the Orangutan's moat. Catfish still inhabit the IndoMalaya waterfall pool
--A crate was in the Babirusa exhibit that was holding the former baby Babirusa
--Old Saw-whet owl exhibit, that held a male pheasant, is now empty
--Crested Tinamou had eggs in the Americas Mixed Bird Exhibit
 
Dont expect Hamerkop chicks. We have 2 males.

We used to have greater flamingos until the mid 1990s.

No info is available on our caribean Flamingos.

Our scarlet Ibis's are likely siblings. They came from the Vancouver aquarium. The 2 females are clutch mates but parents are unknown. The male is 3 months younger but his mother is known. I wouldnt expect chicks.

The marabou storks have a recommendation to breed. A strong one. I believe its for George and Gracie if they are both in their 20s. Ethel though wild born is a non breeder due to her participation in the shows. They might change their mind as Artie becomes older since he is the genetically vaulable son of George and Gracie. Zuri has a medical no bred order. Shes also George and Gracie's.

Victoria Crowned Pigeon Crash is deemed genetically valuable but too old to move. Hes 24! Too bad we arent getting a young female for him.

Both our southern ground hornbill adults were wild born. So their chicks will be very vaulable when they can eventually breed.

As of Dec 2012 we only had two female kookaburra. No clue what happened to Rupert and Blubar. However a new male is coming in from Birmingham Zoo to breed with which ever female is 4 (may 2013 recommendation). The 16 year old female is not to breed.
 
While it is great that you've found all of this, and I appreciate it immensely... just remember everyone that a lot of these plans may be fairly tentative and things can always change, so don't get too hung up if stuff doesn't go through as planned.
 
JMANPROJECT88 said:
Was at the zoo on Sunday, here are some updates:

--There are a number of Bluegill Rockbass now in the Beaver exhibit pool along with the formely alone Large Mouth Bass.
--The former Butterfly Goodeid and Tetras exhibits in Americas have a unidentified species of fish in them but no sign.
--Cuivers Caiman back on display in the Mata Mata Turtle Exhibit, Mata Mata Turtles are no longer in the exhibit and their sign has been replaced...
--Giant Pacific Octopus back on display. I assumed this is the new one, as it looks much larger then the previous Octopus that had passed away
--Primate Wing closed in Americas. I looked through the crack in the door and all paint and exhibit 'furniture' is gone.
--Fireback Pheasant is now in the former red billed magpie, aka. the former prevost squirrel exhibit
--Jumbo Gourami are now in the Orangutan's moat. Catfish still inhabit the IndoMalaya waterfall pool
--A crate was in the Babirusa exhibit that was holding the former baby Babirusa
--Old Saw-whet owl exhibit, that held a male pheasant, is now empty
--Crested Tinamou had eggs in the Americas Mixed Bird Exhibit
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To add to this update, the spotted-necked otter was off display. Don't worry though, everything is just fine with Fred- he is being introduced to a new female. Not sure where the female came from.
 
TZFan said:
Hyenas Pinduli and Moja have a no breeding recommendation from summer 2012. It says... 302 Moja and 328 Pinduli are not a priority to breed for genetic reasons (genetically over-represented and related to each other). They both relate to the group the University of Berkley keeps. Its where we origionally got Owl, Rabbit, Tigger and Woozle from. And yet they are letting Moja get the pulp beaten out of him trying to breed.
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I don't think that Moja is getting the "pulp beaten out of him." He has been bitten a few times over the course of 2 years. The zoo put the sign up so that they would stop getting reports from worried visitors.
 
Oh I do know Mojas not being badly beaten. Life as a male hyena isnt necessarily fun if you want to breed. He will live and love again.

Zoogoer you are absolutely right. All the AZA does is make recommendations. If the zoo chooses to do what it wants great. if not well it was only a recommendation. Our zoo has white lions when the AZA says to stop breeding them, and we will breed them when they are old enough and other zoos will likely take them happily. Its only a suggestion.

Out of everything Ive seen so far the only thing thats got my hopes up is Miles arrival. Considering Ginetta's age I dont want Twiga to be left alone should she pass before the new exhibit is ready for new herd mates. I could honestly care less if they breed. I just dont want to risk either of the girls being alone should the other pass. Giraffes need friends. If Miles comes before everything is ready he can get used to the girls before new herd mates arrive and they might feel more secure about the move over to their new home in a bigger established grouping.

Oh I forgot to mention if theres another zoo I can find stuff out about for anyone let me know. Im happy to exploit my membership for you guys too.
 
K I couldnt help myself when I found out Freds got a new friend from checking up on him in the books. Well they were no help all early 2012 or older, before Gingers death. However I know one of the reasons he got a new mate so fast. Hes the highest ranking male. He and Ginger were wild born and didnt arrive in Toronto until Dec 7 2000. No estimate is given on their ages before capture though. Their goal might be to get him breeding before he goes to pass on those wild genes. The other reason is likely that otters are super social animals and he was lonely. No matter what the reason for the new female I bet hes one happy otter just to have a new friend.
 
JMANPROJECT88 said:
Was at the zoo on Sunday, here are some updates:

--There are a number of Bluegill Rockbass now in the Beaver exhibit pool along with the formely alone Large Mouth Bass.
--The former Butterfly Goodeid and Tetras exhibits in Americas have a unidentified species of fish in them but no sign.
--Cuivers Caiman back on display in the Mata Mata Turtle Exhibit, Mata Mata Turtles are no longer in the exhibit and their sign has been replaced...
--Giant Pacific Octopus back on display. I assumed this is the new one, as it looks much larger then the previous Octopus that had passed away
--Primate Wing closed in Americas. I looked through the crack in the door and all paint and exhibit 'furniture' is gone.
--Fireback Pheasant is now in the former red billed magpie, aka. the former prevost squirrel exhibit
--Jumbo Gourami are now in the Orangutan's moat. Catfish still inhabit the IndoMalaya waterfall pool
--A crate was in the Babirusa exhibit that was holding the former baby Babirusa
--Old Saw-whet owl exhibit, that held a male pheasant, is now empty
--Crested Tinamou had eggs in the Americas Mixed Bird Exhibit
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Thanks for these updates! I'm glad that the Americas tanks were finally opened. Was the piranha aquarium still closed?

I'm also happy that the caimans are finally back on exhibit. Even thought I liked the mata matas, I think the caimans are a more exciting exhibit.

The news about the spotted necked otters is also very interesting. The only problem I have is the otter exhibit is barely large enough to hold two otters so how could it be large enough to have two adults and babies. I hope the new female is just at the zoo to keep Fred company until a larger exhibit is built that can accommodate breeding.
 
The grevy's zebra plan draft was posted last month and some interesting things from it. It appears in it that Shaka is still around and we are to hold him. I thought he had already been transfered out. Maybe that will be changed once the zoo gives its report back. As we all know Jake and Shani are to breed as soon as possible. Tori and Shakira are to be sent to Dallas to breed. I dont know if that will change when they report back. Plus there is the difficulty shipping hoofstock to the US. They might not go anywhere which might cancel out what I have to say next. To bring our numbers back up Lori Ann a 12 year old female will be brought in from Calgary to breed with Jake. While we might be forced to keep Tori and Shakira (providing shes alive), we might take Lori Ann on soon given the damage to Calgary Zoo's african section. We'd likely be doing them a favour taking her in.
 
On to the felines.

Apparently we took in Riverview Park and Zoo’s female Bobcat when she was a kitten in 2003, and sent her along to her new home a year later. We housed other bobcats off and on until 2004.

All ten cheetahs we have are recommended to breed. They are between 5-11 so its a possibility. No firm pairings were offered, just a chart showing the possible matches combined with African Lion Safari’s stock.

Our jaguars were not even considered or mentioned in the 2013 draft of the breeding and transfers. Likely because we didn’t apply for non membership participation which has been written on all the others so far. Its likely because in 2010 both were put on the do not breed sheet because of unknown ancestry. That status is unlikely to change so why bother applying to be considered I guess.

Obviously Merriweather is not a breeder for the Clouded Leopards but no new cats are recommended to arrive either. I know nothing surprising there. According to their studbook we also never bred our clouded leopards. Not even one litter. Given that we are not proven breeders I wonder how likely it is that we can replace Merriweather with a breeding pair?

Something concerning from the 2012 final breeding and transfer report on the snow leopards. Kota is not listed as being at the zoo or any other zoo for that matter. Checked his studbook number and name. Nothing. Did he die? I remember someone mentioning recently we had one in their old exhibit and one at the health center. Maybe he’s been replaced in anticipation of the new exhibit and since the 2013 docs aren’t available yet its not showing up.

We had ocelots! A male from 1973-1975. And then a female names Sasha who lived there from 1989 to 1992.

For the cougars the 2012 plans found out about our male too late to make a recommendation. Which is silly we have had him since 2007. No name is listed for him. Felicia is already at least 10, no idea when she was caught.

And obviously Kemala and Hari have a go on breeding once they are ready.

Next up more birds.
 
arcticwolf said:
Thanks for these updates! I'm glad that the Americas tanks were finally opened. Was the piranha aquarium still closed?
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The Piranha and the 'Amazon Fishes' tanks were still closed unfortunately.

Also to add to my updates, the Burrowing Owl that was in with the Prairie Dogs is no longer in the exhibit and it's sign has been taken down.
 
Our jaguar pair is a brother/sister duo, so no breeding there! They were also born at Elmvale Zoo, so probably not huge breeding candidates.

From what I've heard, the zoo's original clouded leopard pair didn't go quite as planned... with the male killing the female.

Felicia the cougar was born in 2002.

Hari and Kemala have had a few full introductions, but as far as I know... no breeding has occured yet. Her estrus cycles are not very strong, so it could just be a matter of time.
 
Heres the results of searches through some birds and lizards.

We have a pair of Palawan Peacock-pheasants. They were born Jan 21 2012... where Im not sure. Only a transfer is mentioned with Toronto beside it. I don’t know if its to or from. There were no others at the zoo so I’m guessing they are new to the collection. The info is from the 2013 studbook. I don’t remember seeing them but I wasn’t looking for them either.

We had Madagascar Button Quails from 2002- 2005 when both the male and female died.

I looked up our former Demoiselle Cranes. Only a couple of those hatched at the zoo are still alive or were in 2010... Most of the population were from Toronto stock.

Our current Grey Crowned Cranes are siblings. However thats about to change. We will be swapping males with Assiniboine Park and Zoo. Both pairings are considered genetically valuable and both zoos are encouraged to breed in 2014 and again in 2016 if possible. Fun fact we held the oldest recorded male grey crowned crane. 179 lived to be 38 years old (they estimated his hatch date). Hes the father of our present cranes.

We held Red Legged Seriema from 1980-2008.

Our Sunbitterns have some shake ups coming. One female is to be sent to Tulsa while our other female is to breed with our young male.

Our adult Grey-Winged Trumpeters are to breed while their son is to go to Washington.

On to lizards for you reptile lovers.

All of the San Esteban Chuckwallas can breed if the zoo wants to. The AZA says Please breed this group if it is your institution's wish to do so.

Wow I didn’t realize we had 25 year old Komodos. Doni and Loka are not to breed. Kilat and Kiki are to breed. Doni is out due to age while Loka has age and paralysis.

We had one Fiji Banded Iguana from 1995-2001.

Next up the marsupials.
 
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