Toronto Zoo Toronto Zoo Developments 2024

The Toronto Zoo also has some old members still remaining like Puppe, Charles, Jonah, Toka, and Thika, Monty maybe idk if he is still alive, Sekali, Shintay. I am kinda disappointed that we won't be able to celebrate out 50th anniversary with our elephants but we should still post something about them. Does anyone know if monty is still alive or not? and is the toronto zoo bringing back the monorail?
 
It looks like they are reconfiguring the komodo exhibit. Perhaps prepping for something new to inhabit the space.
 
The zoo has announced that the Canadian Domain will be re-opening for the season early thanks to the warmer temperatures. First day back is March 9, this Saturday. Guests are being asked to keep the noise down near the grizzly bear exhibit as Shintay has just woken up from her winter torpor and is still adjusting to being back in the real world.

Friendly reminder that there's a very real chance this is the Canadian Domain's final year before it closes for good due to a lack of accessibility accommodations, so for anyone that wants to do one last visit to see Weston Pond or the old-school exhibits before they go away for good, this is the year to do it.
 
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why would the zoo close Canadian Domain everyone loves it they should just bring back the monorail so it can be more accessible. I don't know what our zoo is doing were closing down old vintage area's of the zoo because we can't accommodate it if we can't accommodate it because of animals then get more animals and put them their. I don't know our zoo seems to be focusing on building buildings than the actual animals. I didn't know I went to a zoo just to see buildings.
 
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The Domain is closing because it is no longer up to code for disability requirements. It has nothing to do with the animals, it's literally the law. It's because people with wheelchairs and ECV scooters cannot get down the hill, it's genuinely dangerous. This is the same reason why last year they updated the Africa to Americas boardwalk and this year they're doing the same to the Indo to Africa boardwalk. The zoo has a choice here: either fix the hill, which would be supremely expensive, rebuild the monorail, which they have considered but is a drastic solution when something simpler has presented itself, or close the area and eventually move the animals to the largely unused Old Eurasia/Zoomobile drive-thru section, which is what they're going to do. Moving them makes more sense, especially when the majority of day guests and passholders alike are not fond of the Domain for a number of very fair and understandable reasons:

Firstly, it is extremely remote. Most of the zoo "lands" flow into each other seamlessly: Indo to Africa, Africa to Americas, Tundra and Australasia to Eurasia, etc. The Domain is very much off the beaten path unless you take the Zoomobile to get there, which is not something an average day guest has access to without an upcharge.

Secondly, the exhibits are old and extraordinarily uninspired. Comparing the brand new outdoor orangutan exhibit or even Gorilla Rainforest from 20+ years ago to the ancient grizzly bear, moose and bald eagle exhibits is like night and day. Plus there are a lot of abandoned and unused exhibits and features down there that are embarrassing to look at, such as the overgrown raccoon exhibit left behind after they made the move across the street to the old lynx exhibit, or the Weston Pond viewing platform in various states of decay.

Thirdly and most importantly, there's the infamous hill, which speaks for itself. It's so steep that it's uncomfortable to go down, and it can be downright painful to climb back up. Which of course is another problem: it's a one-way. The only way into the Domain is to dive down into the pit, and the only way back is a slow and frustrating trek upwards on an incline that I swear gets steeper every year (or maybe I'm just old). I myself only do the Domain once a year for this specific reason, and according to the Master Plan the majority of guests agree, as the Domain was labelled as the least popular area in the zoo when visitors and staff were polled on the subject. And of course, there's the key problem that the hill makes the Domain inaccessible to disabled guests. I have a disabled member of my family who'd love to go see the grizzlies, but she can't because her body can't make the journey and it'd be dangerous going down there with a wheelchair or scooter, because if the brakes fail or something like that then that could be catastrophic.

Of course the Domain was built with the monorail in mind, but the monorail has not operated in nearly 30 years and there is no movement on any planned replacements. It's time for a change, it's time to put the premier Canadian zoo's Canadian animals in a place of honour rather than awkwardly shoving them into a hole, and it's time to redevelop the zoo so it can be traversed in full by all guests, including those with disabilities.

Judging by your comment you seem to imply you'd rather keep the zoo the same way it's been since the 70s while still adding new species, rather than take the smaller-than-we'd-like budget the zoo has to work with and use it to improve the lives of the animals currently in our care. The current game plan is to do the latter, and it's one I and many others on the Toronto forums wholly support because we love the animals at the zoo and we want to see them live their best lives. Would we like wild dogs and walruses and koalas and an endless list of other species? Sure. But I'd turn down every single new species in a heartbeat if it meant giving the orangutans the home they've always deserved or adding new indoor viewing for the red pandas and Savanna animals to help guests see them year-round or improving the lives of our tigers by extending their exhibits. That's where the zoo is coming from, and I think it might help you understand if you realize it's coming from a place of love and care rather than a place of laziness and an unwillingness to acquire new species. If everything changes then I'm going to miss my childhood zoo for sure, but if losing that means bettering the lives of the animals as well as the guest experience, then I think we all should be for it.
 
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Secondly, the exhibits are old and extraordinarily uninspired. Comparing the brand new outdoor orangutan exhibit or even Gorilla Rainforest from 20+ years ago to the ancient grizzly bear, moose and bald eagle exhibits is like night and day.
I completely understand why Toronto is eliminating the Domain, however I would have to disagree with this idea that the exhibits are "extraordinarily uninspired". I visited Toronto Zoo in October, and found the wood bison exhibit to be the single best exhibit in the entire zoo. The gorilla exhibit I found to be mediocre at best, and I'd call the Domain a superior exhibit to the disaster that's the African Rainforest any day of the week.
 
Adding to the Canadian Domain news, moose sisters Lilly and Trilly will finally once again be viewable following two years of renovations when the area re-opens tomorrow. As with the grizzly bears, guests are being asked to keep the noise down around the moose exhibit as the girls get re-accustomed to being around guests.
 
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@kingtank_101
The Domain is closing because it is no longer up to code for disability requirements. It has nothing to do with the animals, it's literally the law. It's because people with wheelchairs and ECV scooters cannot get down the hill, it's genuinely dangerous. This is the same reason why last year they updated the Africa to Americas boardwalk and this year they're doing the same to the Indo to Africa boardwalk. The zoo has a choice here: either fix the hill, which would be supremely expensive, rebuild the monorail, which they have considered but is a drastic solution when something simpler has presented itself, or close the area and eventually move the animals to the largely unused Old Eurasia/Zoomobile drive-thru section, which is what they're going to do. Moving them makes more sense, especially when the majority of day guests and passholders alike are not fond of the Domain for a number of very fair and understandable reasons:

Firstly, it is extremely remote. Most of the zoo "lands" flow into each other seamlessly: Indo to Africa, Africa to Americas, Tundra and Australasia to Eurasia, etc. The Domain is very much off the beaten path unless you take the Zoomobile to get there, which is not something an average day guest has access to without an upcharge.

Secondly, the exhibits are old and extraordinarily uninspired. Comparing the brand new outdoor orangutan exhibit or even Gorilla Rainforest from 20+ years ago to the ancient grizzly bear, moose and bald eagle exhibits is like night and day. Plus there are a lot of abandoned and unused exhibits and features down there that are embarrassing to look at, such as the overgrown raccoon exhibit left behind after they made the move across the street to the old lynx exhibit, or the Weston Pond viewing platform in various states of decay.

Thirdly and most importantly, there's the infamous hill, which speaks for itself. It's so steep that it's uncomfortable to go down, and it can be downright painful to climb back up. Which of course is another problem: it's a one-way. The only way into the Domain is to dive down into the pit, and the only way back is a slow and frustrating trek upwards on an incline that I swear gets steeper every year (or maybe I'm just old). I myself only do the Domain once a year for this specific reason, and according to the Master Plan the majority of guests agree, as the Domain was labelled as the least popular area in the zoo when visitors and staff were polled on the subject. And of course, there's the key problem that the hill makes the Domain inaccessible to disabled guests. I have a disabled member of my family who'd love to go see the grizzlies, but she can't because her body can't make the journey and it'd be dangerous going down there with a wheelchair or scooter, because if the brakes fail or something like that then that could be catastrophic.

Of course the Domain was built with the monorail in mind, but the monorail has not operated in nearly 30 years and there is no movement on any planned replacements. It's time for a change, it's time to put the premier Canadian zoo's Canadian animals in a place of honour rather than awkwardly shoving them into a hole, and it's time to redevelop the zoo so it can be traversed in full by all guests, including those with disabilities.

Judging by your comment you seem to imply you'd rather keep the zoo the same way it's been since the 70s while still adding new species, rather than take the smaller-than-we'd-like budget the zoo has to work with and use it to improve the lives of the animals currently in our care. The current game plan is to do the latter, and it's one I and many others on the Toronto forums wholly support because we love the animals at the zoo and we want to see them live their best lives. Would we like wild dogs and walruses and koalas and an endless list of other species? Sure. But I'd turn down every single new species in a heartbeat if it meant giving the orangutans the home they've always deserved or adding new indoor viewing for the red pandas and Savanna animals to help guests see them year-round or improving the lives of our tigers by extending their exhibits. That's where the zoo is coming from, and I think it might help you understand if you realize it's coming from a place of love and care rather than a place of laziness and an unwillingness to acquire new species. If everything changes then I'm going to miss my childhood zoo for sure, but if losing that means bettering the lives of the animals as well as the guest experience, then I think we all should be for it.
Just so I can get a clear picture, as I've never been to the Toronto Zoo, how is this hill in comparison to the ones at San Diego?
 
@toastrgophr It's a little hard to describe and I've never been to San Diego unfortunately so I can't compare them, but it's a very steep, very tall, and very rough hill. As you go down it the gravity causes you to speed up because the incline is so steep to the point that I often break into a run without intending to on the way down it, and going back up is so exhausting that it has on several occasions ended a visit early for me. These days if I'm gonna do it I almost always do it first while I have all my energy. Disabled guests are straight up told to skip the area (this is why it's closing, it doesn't align with Canadian disability laws anymore) and for everyone else there are several signs posted around the entrance that say stuff like "This hill is crazy, it's one way in and out so you have to commit to it, are you super sure you want to do this?". You can sort of get a feel for what it's like on Google Maps but I assure you it falls short of the real thing.

It was originally built to be used in tandem with a monorail ride that would take guests down the hill, drop them off so they could explore the area at the bottom, and then pick them up again to take them back, but the monorail closed in 1994 after an accident and there's been no replacement, so for the past 30 years it's just been an awkward spot that most guests find frustrating.
 
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@hyena142 I fully agree with the hill being really steep but if the hill is to steep just don't go in that area u don't need to complain about it and ruin the area for other people that like it. This is also why I suggested to the zoo bring back the monorail so people who are unable to walk can use the monorail to get down their and get back up simple.
 
@kingtank_101 Please understand, this is not a matter of "oh I just don't like the area of the zoo and I want it to go away". The zoo legally cannot keep the Domain open, this is a fact and there is nothing they or anyone can do about it. And the return of the monorail would not help either, because the Domain is not just one bad hill at the entrance, it is a series of them throughout the area.

But I'll entertain this idea of fixing the monorail and using it as a way for people to access the Domain for a sec. Here's why it wouldn't work. Let's assume a disabled person is visiting the zoo. We'll call him Joe. Joe is a day guest, so first he's purchased a ticket to enter the zoo and paid for parking. Joe also requires the use of a wheelchair or an ECV scooter to travel long distances such as a zoo trip, and he will be renting a scooter for the day to make traversal easier. This is his first bonus expense. Joe is a big fan of bison, and he really wants to see the wood bison exhibit. To do that he'll have to get to the Domain, which is now only accessible by monorail as per disability laws. Being a day guest, Joe has to purchase a ticket to board the monorail. This is his second bonus expense of the day after renting the scooter. The zoo has rebuilt the monorail as it was back in the old days, so it disembarks at the old station next to Weston Pond. Joe would be able to make it to the moose exhibit to his left, and then the grizzly bear exhibit to his right. However, this is the end of his Domain trip, as the path to the bison, eagles and everything else is up a hill that his scooter legally cannot pass. If the zoo wants to keep the Domain open, they'd have to enforce this. There is nothing more Joe can do but turn around and board the monorail back to the mainland. Joe cannot see his favourite animal because the zoo was not built for people like him back in the 70's, and instead of taking the easy solution of building the Domain animals new, state-of-the-art exhibits in the unused Old Eurasia area that everyone can traverse, the modern zoo reopened the monorail instead, keeping the Domain in a remote location with outdated exhibits and solving absolutely nothing to do with the disability access problem.

So that's why. Not only would it be completely unfair to charge day guests extra to visit the outdated and underwhelming Canadian Domain, especially when far superior areas like the Savanna or the new orang exhibit are free with admission, it still does not solve the key problem: the Domain, in large, cannot be traversed by disabled guests without it being unsafe. This is why the zoo wants to replace it. Not me, not the people on this forum, the zoo themselves. Go to the Master Plan or even just the accessibility page on the zoo's website, there they discuss in detail how they are working to bring the zoo up to modern accessibility standards, and they specifically note the Domain as a problem area that needs to close.
 
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first of all how is joe even driving if he is in the wheelchair and second how did people who were in wheelchairs back in the 70s 80s and 90s even the 2000s get down to Canadian Domain with complaints. The zoo should just build a side ramp on the pathway so that disabled people can go down the domain and I for one like the domain the way it is I like the walk its good exercise.
 
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