Toronto Zoo Toronto Zoo Future Developments 2014

March 26 there was an info meeting for members, about the Wild For Life fundraising projects. It was excellent with close to an hour of Dr Crawshaw talking about past activities and successes and the future of the Health Centre, followed by questions, then he and the fundraisers mingled for another twenty minutes or so answering questions.

Some of the info (some may have appeared above):

Health Centre funds are still needed but with the city's commitment of fifteen million they are going ahead starting in October. Fully completing their plan depends on raising the funds, otherwise some aspects just won't be done. Artist drawings were on display. The most interesting feature was the Atrium for public viewing. It overlooks examining and surgical areas. This will be for private tours, members' tours, vet. students, etc. The Health Centre space will nearly double.

Orang expansion is not scheduled yet - fundraising first. Their plan will more than double the Orang living space and improve enrichment elements.

Other purposes of the fifty million fundraising: expanding the hippo exhibit, a Centre for Species Reproduction, Canadian Wilderness Region including a Boreal Forest biome, Mixed Woodland biome, and large interpretive centre.

Eurasia re-opening is probably July.

Panda cubs unlikely for a while - Er Shun is not cycling yet.

Other info I have picked up or seen myself lately:

Work has been going on inside the elephant house for about three weeks

A pair of Clouded Leopards are still scheduled to arrive sometime soon, according to a couple of volunteers.

Both Bettongs are still in the Health Centre and are being introduced there.

The Kookaburrra M acquisition fell through and the keeper I asked about it did not know what is happening with that now. The younger F is the one in the enclosed area because she was expected to breed with the new male.

The kangaroo exhibit tree damage has not been cleaned up yet because the area is still too soft to bring in the equipment.

The Macacques' roof is finally finished and they are back. They have been in the outdoor area of Malayan Woods on nice days but impossible to see.

Tree damage is being cleaned up seriously now - cut logs in several areas and machinery running all day.

Three adult Polar Bears in the pool today. Humphrey, now 5 months, was dipping his feet and nose in his pool and walking around it, then rolling in the grass - looking pretty scruffy.
 
Oh Mr. Wrinkly you are one lucky person. To get to hear Dr. Crawshaw discuss everything for an hour must have been a real treat. I loved watching him on zoo diaries.

Question about the public viewing area for the health centre. Is it open for everyone to come in and view or can you only view it on a private tour ect?

The orangs not being started right away is disappointing. They why the website had it worded I thought they were breaking ground this year not starting the fundraising.

July is so disappointing for the Eurasian Wilds opening. I was so looking forward to seeing a Sea Eagle this spring. Oh well something to look forward to in 2015 I guess.

When you say Er Shun isnt cycling yet do you mean definitely no 2014 cub or shes just not come into season yet this year?

Fantastic to hear that the clouded leopards are due to return sometime soon.

It's probably a good idea to give the bettongs privacy and close monitoring to introduce them since it went poorly last time.

Thanks for clarifying the kookaburra situation for us. Considering the SSP wants the younger female breeding hopefully they will find another possible choice soon.

Thank you for all your detailed updates.
 
Dr Crawshaw - this was one of the better member events - ironically one of my other favourites was a tour of the Health Centre when Dr Mehren participated.

Tours - I doubt there will be general access, given the location and the nature of the work. Maybe booked paid tours.

Er Shun - my understanding was she hasn't yet cycled at all, but that may be wrong. A lot of info was tossed out - hard to absorb.

Clouded Leopards - I have heard that since Merri. died in October, and asked two volunteers last week if they have had an update. Both assured me that was up to date info. Today another member said he heard it is this month. I have some confidence in the info but not 100%.
 
Thanks for the clarifications first of all.

If I lived close enough to enjoy a membership and a talk with Dr. Crawshaw was offered I would most likely go. He seems like a pretty interesting guy who is deeply committed to the zoo and its animals. I think it will be a sad day for the zoo when he decides to retire.

I really hope Er Shun and Da Mao get to breed this year. We arent like the American zoos who get 10 or more shots at it. We were offered 5 tries but lost our first possible attempt beceause they arrive too late to try last year. To lose this year because Er Shun just isnt ready would be horrible. We would only get three tries and we all know how notoriously difficult it can be to breed pandas. Stupid 5 year plan. Let's just keep Da Mao and Er Shun for the full ten and tough luck to Calgary... Let them get their own pandas. Lol.

I too have heard from a volunteer that the clouded leopards are returning. I desperately hoped a new SSP for them would come out before my AZA membership ran out but no such luck. I hope we get a young pair, either still pretty much cubs or just entering breeding years. The young cubs would provide a ton of life to an exhibit that has been rather boring for a long time with an elderly cat who preferred sleeping in the shadows and was at times almost impossible to spot. Their arrival sometime this month makes a lot of sense, 30 days quarantine would see them out on display in late May, early June just in time to delight the school groups and early summer guests.

Poor Maki will have to go back to the red panda exhibit, not that its a bad exhibit. Just from everyones photos of her in there she really seems to enjoy it.
 
Panda extension - no thanks - not @ one million dollars a year off the top.

Red Panda - I disagree. Maki lived outdoors in a tree, spending most of her days high in the tree. For months she has been in a very much smaller space with a comparatively low roof. She needs cool temperatures but Malayan Woods is warm and the keepers have had difficulty keeping her quarters cool enough. The condensation has been very bad. The first time I saw her was a couple of days after she was moved - we watched her for about half an hour both AM and PM. She was agitated and pacing all over the exhibit all of that time. She sleeps at the highest perch and never goes in the stump "nest". In my opinion she should be moved back ASAP to what I think is a very good exhibit for this species. I will put up two pics, from Red Panda day in October when she was far over our heads and one day in January.
 
I agree with Mr Wrinkly about the red panda. I think the old clouded leopard exhibit was ok for a short period of time, but the outdoor red panda exhibit is much better for her. Also red pandas don't really fit into an Asian rainforest area.

Also thanks for the clouded leopard news. Since clouded leopards are my favourite cat species, this news is really exciting for me.
 
Oh I figured from everyones photos of her she was enjoying the exhibit. I know its much smaller and its not as good as being outside in the fresh air but never considered the heat and that she might not enjoy it. I withdraw my comment and will change it to say I bet shes happy to be going home.

I did think adding her to an Asain Rainforest exhibit was odd at the time but without a mammal in the biggest physical exhibit in their they had to think quick. Couldn't leave it empty all winter and possibly longer if it took time to find a new inhabitant. It wasnt like they could move a big mammal from any of the other exhibits there and they wouldnt have wanted anything too small. The red pandas seem to be the only Asian species they have they could put in there, except maybe one or two of the lion tailed macaques but why when their exhibit is across the pathway.

Hopefully the new clouded leopards will arrive soon and Maki can go home in time to readjust before the Wilds opens.

I do wonder if the zoo considered other options for the exhibit. Don't get me wrong Im happy clouded leopards are returning because they are the most beautifully coloured of the cats. But it might have been equally interesting to see something new. Binturongs and Pangolins are look cool. Fishing cats would be interesting to watch if we fed them live fish.
 
Wildlife Health Centre

Hi everyone. There seems to be quite a lot of interest in the new Wildlife Health Centre and other capital projects. For those who weren't fortunate enough to attend Dr. Crawshaw's presentation, I am attaching the handout and artist drawing referenced to by Mr. Wrinkly for you. FYI, you are right that the web pages at www.torontozoo.ca/wildforlife are under development. All information is subject to change :)
 

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WILDforLife - One thing I did not wonder about until I got home was the future location of the Centre for Species Reproduction. With indoor and outdoor hodings and including hoofstock it would need a large area.
Thanks.
 
WILDforLife - One thing I did not wonder about until I got home was the future location of the Centre for Species Reproduction. With indoor and outdoor hodings and including hoofstock it would need a large area.
Thanks.

To be determined at a later date. It is a fair way off yet.
 
Thanks WILDforLife for sharing the information about the wildlife health centre. It looks like it will be great.

I love learning about the zoo'a future so anything you share is greatly appreciated.
 
Today's Toronto Star has a 4-page "Toronto Zoo Promotional Feature" with lots of info. I hope it will generate some interest. Maybe it will get more people out on the long weekend.
Unfortunately I didn't find it on the Star site to post a link, maybe because it is paid advertising.
 
If I'm lucky to not be working this long weekend (Friday included), I'm hoping to go to the zoo. Plus, I'd have to hope for good weather.

Seems like the odds are against me.
 
In the video the zookeeper said that Samson is a grizzly bear and Shintay is a brown bear. I have been told by multiple zoo staff members that Samson is a Kodiak/grizzly bear hybrid and Shintay is a grizzly bear. Does anyone know which is correct?
 
I was under the apparently mistaken belief that they were siblings. I don't recall where I got that notion.

From what I know about bears, brown bears are grizzly bears and kodiak bears are simply subspecies of brown bears. Both Samson and Shintay no matter what subspeices they might be, they are both are brown bears.

I wonder why there seems to be confusion as to what the zoo has in terms of subspecies. Perhaps Jeff is mistaken because you said you had asked multiple people, likely their actual keepers where as Jeff is now a Wildlife Care Supervisor for the Domain, Americas, Mayan temple and Tundra Trek. While it says he started as a keeper it doesn't say directly he was ever their keeper. He just might not be as informed about them as their actual keepers. It's got to be hard knowing a little about so many species.
 
I didn't realize that he was a Wildlife Care Supervisor. I guess I should read more carefully.

I know that grizzly and Kodiak bears are both subspecies of brown bears. What bothered me is that he called Shintay a brown bear and Samson a grizzly bear. I don't understand why he wouldn't just call them both brown bears.
 
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