A massive Prime Minister cull is in order in Zimbabwe. And should have priority.
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A massive Prime Minister cull is in order in Zimbabwe. And should have priority.
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dragon(ele)nerd
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yeah terrible as well, cholera claiming over 600 people,
Aw that is so sad.
Why are they allowed to sell the ivory to Japan and China, surely that just fuels the ivory trade and encourages illegal poaching?
Why not just use the contraception, I'm sure that's successfully been used before, as opposed to shooting whole elephant herds.
And, I love how they are allowing people to PAY to go out and kill them, and yet when one elephant gets killed by poachers, there's hell to pay! How anyone could pay to do such a terrible thing is totally beyond me. When they're extinct in 50 years we'll wonder why
And before I get a lecture on why this is right (for being a so called "bunny hugger", according to the bloke in the link), I'm just saying there are other ways, and I'm upset by this so I had to get something off my chest
What was that about humans dying of cholera though? Is that anything to do with the elephants?
Why are they allowed to sell the ivory to Japan and China, surely that just fuels the ivory trade and encourages illegal poaching?
Why not just use the contraception, I'm sure that's successfully been used before, as opposed to shooting whole elephant herds.
And, I love how they are allowing people to PAY to go out and kill them, and yet when one elephant gets killed by poachers, there's hell to pay! How anyone could pay to do such a terrible thing is totally beyond me. When they're extinct in 50 years we'll wonder why
And before I get a lecture on why this is right (for being a so called "bunny hugger", according to the bloke in the link), I'm just saying there are other ways, and I'm upset by this so I had to get something off my chest
What was that about humans dying of cholera though? Is that anything to do with the elephants?
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dragon(ele)nerd
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I'm no med expert but I'm gonna go with that the cholera hasn't got much to do with elephants. The bacteria is usually passed from comsuption of things, bad food and water etc. Perhpas their water system has been all of a sudden interuppted from the usual flow?
It has nothing to do with the elephants.
The current political regime has run the country into the ground, people are starving and many have no safe drinking water. As a result, cholera has broken out - a highly contagious and fatal disease. Many people attribute this directly to the dictatorial mismanagement of Mugabe.
Check out this link. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/17/2468238.htm?section=justin
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The current political regime has run the country into the ground, people are starving and many have no safe drinking water. As a result, cholera has broken out - a highly contagious and fatal disease. Many people attribute this directly to the dictatorial mismanagement of Mugabe.
Check out this link. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/17/2468238.htm?section=justin
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Sun Wukong
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Even more than in humans, contraception isn't foolproof in animals-and getting it into the elephants is work-intensive, expensive and not as easy as some might assume...Therefore not really an option for a country like Zimbabwe.
Plain and simple, Zimbabwe is broke; they can use the elephant meat to feed the soldiers and sell the ivory to the Asian market-among others, in exchange for weapons. This way or another, Mugabe ensures he stays in power.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200901090723.html
Epidemic Cholera outbreaks are usually closely asscociated with bad (water) hygiene conditions in crowded areas and thus not elephant-related. In the case of Zimbabwe, the lack of apt medical care aggravates the problem.
If elephants went extinct in 50 years (which I kinda doubt...), nobody would hestitate to wonder, just like in the case of already extinct (or wiped out) elephant species before; most people would just go on living.
And wouldn't "elephant hugger" be the more appropriate term...?
Plain and simple, Zimbabwe is broke; they can use the elephant meat to feed the soldiers and sell the ivory to the Asian market-among others, in exchange for weapons. This way or another, Mugabe ensures he stays in power.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200901090723.html
Epidemic Cholera outbreaks are usually closely asscociated with bad (water) hygiene conditions in crowded areas and thus not elephant-related. In the case of Zimbabwe, the lack of apt medical care aggravates the problem.
If elephants went extinct in 50 years (which I kinda doubt...), nobody would hestitate to wonder, just like in the case of already extinct (or wiped out) elephant species before; most people would just go on living.
And wouldn't "elephant hugger" be the more appropriate term...?
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dragon(ele)nerd
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I" like to know how would they use contraceptive?
Go out and administer it to a large number of females? or bait it like favourite feeding spots of elephants?
It's interesting I've never heard of this before.
Go out and administer it to a large number of females? or bait it like favourite feeding spots of elephants?
It's interesting I've never heard of this before.
dragon(ele)nerd
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So much kinder than shooting
Definately, although females are loosing the right to have more calves, at least the calves won't loose their mothers, etc.