Twycross Zoo Twycross Zoo news 2012 #4

That means the Duskies may have shrunk further since I was last there. I hope they do not now lose them altogether, Twycross have had them from their very earliest days- the first unusual Primate species they kept really

If Appeldoorn could get Proboscis monkeys from Singapore, surely someone, somewhere in the UK could obtain Dusky Langurs from Singapore or one of the several decent zoos in Malaysia?

I do sometimes get the impression that most UK zoo directors don't realise that there are zoos outside Europe or North America.
 
Twycross had 3 francois langurs born in one group 2011/2012. So at least one langur species seems on the way to sucess.
 
If Appeldoorn could get Proboscis monkeys from Singapore, surely someone, somewhere in the UK could obtain Dusky Langurs from Singapore or one of the several decent zoos in Malaysia?

But more to the point, will anyone try? For example, if the Twycross group are dwindling now, will they try to resurrect them or just not bother- maybe they would be happy for yet another species to disappear now?
 
Twycross had 3 francois langurs born in one group 2011/2012. So at least one langur species seems on the way to sucess.

The Francois Langurs at both London and Twycross seem to be doing well. As they haven't been there many years, I suspect the adults are youngish, virile animals. The Twycross Duskies on the other hand are probably descended from their original 1960's group and/or elderly animals.
 
Wonder if I can start a little Yorkshire monkey sanctuary with all these spares being shipped off. Bronte monkeys!


I think the Francois Langurs are a case where Twycross were allocated a number to hold provisionally until some were moved on to other Zoos, leaving them with a breeding unit themselves.

Whereas with their other Primates the only ones to have left recently I believe are a couple of Woolly Monkeys. The previous batch that left (some Javan Langurs, the single Red-tailed Guenon, the remaining Purple-faced Langurs, the last Hamlyn's Monkey(s), others?) was some while ago now though there is talk on here of more and it seems likely this will happen.
 
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I think the Francois Langurs are a case where Twycross were allocated a number to hold provisionally until some were moved on to other Zoos, leaving them with a breeding unit themselves.

Whereas with their other Primates the only ones to have left recently I believe are a couple of Woolly Monkeys. The previous batch that left (some Javan Langurs, the single Red-tailed Guenon, the remaining Purple-faced Langurs, the last Hamlyn's Monkey(s), others?) was some while ago now though there is talk on here of more and it seems likely this will happen.

The last of the Hamlyn's was about this time last year, so not too long ago.
 
This may seem a horrible task or question! But can anyone list the primate species kept in each house (number of groups included) ? :)
 
Gorillas - isn't Ozala's baby due round about now? That would be some good Christmas publicity for them (if it all goes well).
 
This may seem a horrible task or question! But can anyone list the primate species kept in each house (number of groups included) ? :)

There's been an awful lot of moving around in the last few months. I'd be very hard pressed to name even one house complete
 
imho Twycross is an embarresment. Went there in Feb. Thought why this is expensive gift shop and leopard enclosure being built when Chimps are living in hell. The ease of the introduction and creation of the new groups shows they should have done it years ago. Never saw Chimps properly interacting until I went to Monkey World!
 
Twycross Chimps, past, present and future.

Thought why this is expensive gift shop and leopard enclosure being built when Chimps are living in hell. The ease of the introduction and creation of the new groups shows they should have done it years ago. Never saw Chimps properly interacting until I went to Monkey World!

My sentiments too, though remember 'Himalaya' resulted from a different funding source, but IMO its 'modernism' only highlighted the poor Chimpanzee housing even more. I said previously on here that the Chimpanzee moves should have been made thirty years ago, but I don't think they had anyone there who was experienced or particularly wanted to make it happen, they also seemed to think it was difficult/impossible to do, though like many complicated animal introductions, with care it turned out to be perfectly feasible in reality.

They made an earlier attempt at recognising their shortcomings and providing better conditions by creating the small 'colony' of about six animals in the 'Chimpanzee colony' house, but of course that didn't help all the majority still living in the old cages. I appreciate they had no alternative accomodation they could move the rest into at the time, but in those days, when the Zoo's finances were much healthier than they are now, they could have addressed that but didn't, instead building or converting Houses for the other higher profile Ape species e.g. Gorillas & the Bonobos.

Some of those older Chimps earned the money from their appearances in the early T.V. adverts that helped to build the Zoo, yet they continued living in the poorest conditions. And one simple improvement which would have cost nothing would have been to open the dividing doors in the Chimp Row/Green Mile and allow all the seperated individual pairs and trios, who must have been very familiar with each other by sight and sound anyway, from so long living adjacently to each other, to be all together as one socially enriched group, at least in the outdoor areas, but even that did not happen. Why not? Only with the recent emptying of the 2nd Gorilla House of Gorillas(a wise move IMO) was an opportunity created for the first time to actually redistribute all chimps from those old cages into three existing Ape Houses. This has also temporarily bypassed the need to build new housing for them, something which has been talked about for a number of years but which they seemingly can't afford at present. But is the current set-up a 'halfway house' one, or will it be much longer term?

The situation now is definately a big improvement, but the reality is still several (either five or six) 'subgroups' of Chimps living in the split/divided accomodation provided by the three 1960's-style buildings. Whether they now go further with more integrations within these houses remains to be seen(that may well depend on the individuals concerned) as does whether the plan of exhibiting them as a single large Chimp group in a purpose-built and modern environment goes ahead or not.
 
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New Gorilla Baby?

I think there may be a recent Gorilla birth to the female 'Ozala'- someone on their facebook pages says (16 hours go) 'we were lucky enough to see the baby Gorilla' but I can't read the rest of it.

Can anyone confirm this?
 
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