UK mammal first breedings: appeal for help

Tim May said:
John Knowles’ autobiography “My Marwellous Life” (horrible title, but interesting book) confirms that Marwell’s gemsbok were quarantined in Manchester.
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Well spotted (I've just read it myself and have already forgotten a lot of the detail!)
 
Bele said:
Pertinax said:
, it usually took a while to identify her in the Bristol group which is now , unfortunately , in a non-breeding situation .

I have been trying to find any information on the Manchester Lion-tailed Macaques . Number 9 records the birth of a female in 1967 .
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Yes, it seems a shame the Bristol Liontail females are on implants. But the enclosure is not that large and I guess they have been advised any further young aren't required elsewhere.

Belle Vue- 3.2. Liontails would be correct- there was only one female, plus the baby born in 1967- which I remember was seperated from its parents so it may have been handraised. I have no idea where they went after the Zoo closed.

The one date I still don't have is for the birth at Flamingo Park(usually listed as Malton). I wonder if it preceded the '64/65 births of the Chipperfield pair?
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The Lion-tailed Macaques were not listed amongst the species held at the time of Belle Vue's closure in 1977- primates were Chimpanzee , Orang-utan , Lar Gibbon , Mandrill , Mandrill/Drill hybrid , Talapoin and Crab-eating Macaque .

Presumambly they had moved to another collection before this , or died .

Another species on the list was Kirk's Dik-dik . The first pair arrived in Colchester from Hannover in 2002 . I suspect this would be where the first birth occurred , as I think Edinburgh have only held males .
 
The only Lion-tailed Macaque birth listed for Malton in the old IZYB volumes is (1) for 1971 .

I also checked out the old IZYB's for Cherry-crowned Mangabey births in the UK , none listed . If they did not breed in the past then the recent group at Colchester would be the first to record births .
 
Bele said:
The only Lion-tailed Macaque birth listed for Malton in the old IZYB volumes is (1) for 1971 .

I also checked out the old IZYB's for Cherry-crowned Mangabey births in the UK , none listed . If they did not breed in the past then the recent group at Colchester would be the first to record births .
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If it was (1) presumably that one died. There must have been another as the mother/son pair from there went to Chester a few years afterward.

Interesting if Colchester had the first Cherry Crowned Mangabey births, considering this species seemed quite widely kept around the UK previously.
 
robmv said:
Lesser Malay Chevrotain: Martin Bourne 1996
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It is really interesting to learn that Dr. Martin Bourne bred javanicus chevrotains in 1996.

However, it is worth noting that under the heading Tragulus javanicus, Flower (1929) records that four were born in London Zoo between 1870 and 1922.

Although Flower cautions that “The identification of the mouse-deers that have lived in the gardens is doubtful” it could be that the species was bred at London Zoo long before 1996.

Further investigation is needed.
 
Thanks Tim, not sure how we overlooked that one.

Luckily (for me) none of them appear to have survived for 30 days as Flower makes a special mention of one that survived for three weeks. I will add a note to the list though as this is interesting background info.
 
you might also note that the lesser chevrotain (I prefer the name 'lesser mouse deer' myself :)) is Tragulus kanchil. Tragulus javanicus is the Javan chevrotain / mouse deer which is endemic solely to Java (the two species were split a wee while ago)
 
Hi Rob,
I work on the Amur Leopard (Panthera pardus orientalis) programme but is it just the Leopard Cat (Prionailurus bengalensis euptilurus) you are after?
 
Abbie2020 said:
Hi Rob,
I work on the Amur Leopard (Panthera pardus orientalis) programme but is it just the Leopard Cat (Prionailurus bengalensis euptilurus) you are after?
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Thanks for the offer, but we already have an entry for Amur Leopard:

Amur Leopard Panthera pardus orientalis (Schlegel, 1857)
1990 Cricket St. Thomas
Chester bred "Amur" leopards in 1968 but these animals were later re-identified as North China Leopards (P. p. japonensis).​

However, we don't have a reference for the Cricket birth so studbook details (title and page number) would be really helpful.
 
Maguari said:
That is robmv's list! :D
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To be fair, the list that used to be on the website was done by Alan Ashby, not myself. I got involved a couple of years ago and we have been adding further entries and a lot more background information to make the list a more interesting read (hopefully!), rather than just a list of species, locations and dates: the current document is over 60 pages and still growing. We took the original list down as it was out of date but, as I mentioned in an earlier post, we are hoping to publish a printed version via the Bartlett Society at some point.
 
Ah yes - sorry, should have said 'the list that robmv is working on' rather than 'robmv's list'.
 
Shaldon are going to e-mail me the details on the Azaras Agouti when they have checked out but its looking as if they were bred by a private breeder before Shaldon
 
zoogiraffe said:
Shaldon are going to e-mail me the details on the Azaras Agouti when they have checked out but its looking as if they were bred by a private breeder before Shaldon
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Excellent. It's surprising how many mammal species were bred in private hands before they made it into zoos.
 
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