UK Zoo's Help Please

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Zooreviewsuk

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Hi, I was wondering if some people can help.

I am looking to photo the following animals and wondered if anyone could point me in the right place as to any collections in the UK that hold them or if they are not held in the UK and pointless hoping to see one :)

1 - Black Leopard
2 - Puma / Mountain Lion / Cougar
3 - Pygmy Elephant / Borneo Elephant
4 - Snapping Turtle
5 - Green Mamba
6 - Blue Eyed Black Lemur
7 - Wombat (Hairy Nosed) or any other species
8 - Giant Sengi
9 - Roloway Monkey
10 - Saola
11 - Bobcat
12 - Caracal
13 - Sawfish
14 - Snub Nose Monkey
15 - Douc Langur Monkey
16 - Maroon Leaf Monkey
17 - Black Footed Cat
18 - Jungle Cat
19 - Rusty Spotted Cat
20 - Sand Cat
21 - Andean Mountain Cat
22 - African Golden Cat
23 - Baycat
24 - Flat Headed Cat
25 - Orinoco Crocodile
26 - Mugger Crocodile
27 - African Golden Wolf
28 - Jackal (Not including Colchester where they are impossible to see) - pref Black Backed
29 - Bat Eared Fox
30 - Blanford Fox
31 - Corsac Fox
32 - Prairie Wolf
33 - Crab Eating Fox
34 - Short Eared Dog
35 - Sloth Bear
36 - Spirit Bear (pref White)
37 - Kodiak Bear
38 - Grizzly Bear

Any help will be greatly received.
 
There's a lot on there that you don't stand a cat in hell's chance of seeing in Europe (let alone the UK). Some of those species, perhaps a odd rescue centre aside, aren't held anywhere in captivity.

Rather than me going through the list I'd suggest you check out the mighty zootierliste for further clarification.
 
More than half of these aren't kept anywhere in the UK- I suggest checking zootierliste, which despite it's flaws, is still usually fairly accurate.
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I did similar with Threatened Mammals, listing them in an Excel sheet and heading the columns with zoos/parks. Using zootierliste, I was able to identify where I could find most of my missing mammals in fewer trips. But as already said, a LOT of those you list are not in UK
 
One small question about that Zootierliste website, I can't even find a Black Leopard species on there, so any help on that would be appreciated.
 
Zooreviewsuk said:
One small question about that Zootierliste website, I can't even find a Black Leopard species on there, so any help on that would be appreciated.
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If you are going down to the south west at some point, you could pop into Exmoor Zoo and see their pair. Lincolnshire Wildlife Park has one and there might be a couple more elsewhere in the UK.
 
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One small question about that Zootierliste website, I can't even find a Black Leopard species on there, so any help on that would be appreciated.
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That's because the black leopard is just a colour mutation, not a separate subspecies. look for references to 'Schwarze Panther' on the descriptions of each collection.
 
I was also going to suggest Exmoor Zoo - you'll see a number of the species on your list there, and it's a delightful zoo.
 
I’ve had Whipsnade on my list for a couple years now - I spent some time with one of the bear keepers from the zoo when we were both at Phnom Tamao in Cambodia, and up until December just gone I had never actually had the chance to see a sloth bear before.
 
Africa Alive: Blue-eyed black lemur; Bat-eared fox
Amazona: Puma
Ashford Big Cat Sanctuary: Caracal; Jungle cat; Puma; Rusty-spotted cat;
Auchingarrich: Corsac fox
Axe Valley: Rusty-spotted Cat;
Banham: Blue-eyed black lemur
Bassenthwaite: Alligator snapping turtle; Common snapping turtle
Blackpool Sea Life: Alligator snapping turtle; Common snapping turtle
Borth: Common snapping turtle
Bristol: Blue-eyed black lemur
Broxbourne: Corsac fox
Colwyn Bay: Common snapping turtle
Combe Martin: Bat-eared fox; Common snapping turtle
Congresbury: Corsac fox
Crawley Crocodiles: Alligator snapping turtle
Exmoor: Sand cat; Caracal; Rusty-spotted cat; Bat-eared fox
Eynsford: Common snapping turtle
Five Sisters: Corsac fox; Bat-eared fox
Hamerton: Rusty-spotted cat; Corsac fox; Black-backed jackal
Heythrop: Puma
Hoo Farm: Caracal; Alligator snapping turtle
Hull Deep Aquarium: Green sawfish
Lincolnshire: Caracal
Marwell: Bat-eared fox
North Queensferry Deep Sea: Alligator snapping turtle
Oakham: Common snapping turtle
Oban: Alligator snapping turtle
Port Lympne: Rusty-spotted cat
Portsmouth Blue Reef: Common snapping turtle
Rutland: Puma
Shepreth: Common snapping turtle
Stockton: Alligator snapping turtle; Common snapping turtle
Thrigby Hall: Mugger crocodile
West Midland: Alligator snapping turtle
Weymouth Sea Life: Common snapping turtle
Whipsnade: Sloth bear; Alligator snapping turtle
Wingham: Caracal; Puma; Common snapping turtle; Eastern green mamba
Woodside: Caracal
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Not in any British zoo: Wombat, Giant sengi; Pygmy/Borneo Elephant; Roloway monkey; Douc langur; Maroon leaf monkey; Snub-nosed monkey; black-footed cat; Bobcat; African golden cat; Andean mountain cat; Bay cat; Flat-headed cat; Blanford’s fox; Crab-eating fox; Short-eared dog; Prairie wolf; African golden wolf; Grizzly bear; Kodiak bear; Orinoco crocodile;

Colour varieties (not listed separately in Zootierliste): Black leopard; Spirit bear
 
Thanks for the above, but this is where Zootierliste has confused me.

I went to Woodside only 2 months ago and there is no Caracal, and I emailed the parks owner tonight who also confirmed that they have Geofrey's Cat, Lynx and Tiger's but no Caracal.

Also Wingham have no info of a Green Mambo on their website?

Unless offshow Bassenthwaite do not have Snapping Turtles.

This is my worry, above is only 3 instances of Zootierliste stating something is in a collection when it may not be onshow and I don't want to travel 100s of miles to find out if it's offshow, which is why I mainly asked on here.

Thanks for the info you have provided though, I appreciate the time it must have taken.
 
Zootierliste tends to be good, if not perfect, for mammals -less so for birds and herps. Whether this is down to poorer identification/reporting by users for non-mammals, longer lives/less variation in mammals held by collections or something else is up for debate. The more geographically obscure/less visited collections are more likely to contain errors but this is not necessarily true if there's a local user passionate about a collection.

If you're only visiting a collection for one species probably best to cross check with website and zoo themselves first. That said, in my opinion, most zoos are worth a visit (travel distance/costs considered) and there's always the chance a place has got a gem not showing on zootierliste -I visited Newquay Zoo last year and to my delight came across an achouchi not then lisited.
 
I would select a few zoos that you really fancy visiting based upon these species and then email the zoos directly one by one for confirmation before you go - I recently emailed every zoo noted on Zootierliste as having sun bears as well as a couple of others that I suspected may have them to double check before booking any flights and hotels, and I received pretty decent responses from all.
 
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