The moat is far less of a problem than the house itself. They could easily retain it and build a fresh exhibit around it. Does it still hold water or is it 'dry' nowadays?
Dudley Zoological Gardens Update on Dudley Zoo
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The moat is far less of a problem than the house itself. They could easily retain it and build a fresh exhibit around it. Does it still hold water or is it 'dry' nowadays?
You can say that again!!
I've almost given up hope the Orangutans will ever move from that house... but not quite.
EvilKittie
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hmm that might be an idea, they would either have to move the orangs off the site or into a temporary enclosure
What I meant was, if they ever manage to build/renovate a better enclosure for the Orangutans, then they could knock down the old house(about thirty years overdue) and build a new exhibit for something that would incorporate the Listed moat, though in my opinion giving it listed status does seem odd ...
Another useless exhibit for Dudley to be stuck with.
Another useless exhibit for Dudley to be stuck with.
taun
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What I meant was, if they ever manage to build/renovate a better enclosure for the Orangutans, then they could knock down the old house(about thirty years overdue) and build a new exhibit for something that would incorporate the Listed moat, though in my opinion giving it listed status does seem odd ...
Not really, the whole moat issue is pretty common with how listed buildings get their status. Some are how they are built, so technical the design is listed not the structure but it doesn't work that way.
The area could be given over tapir's or pgymy hippos, utilizing the old moat (okay not the best solution but better than the current exhibit).
bigcat speciali
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Glasgow Zoo did have a male Asiatic bear, by the name of Bongo. Recued from Italian Zoo, and the bears were not 25 but well over 30+.
Glasgow Zoo did have a male Asiatic bear, by the name of Bongo. Recued from Italian Zoo, and the bears were not 25 but well over 30+.
I don't think EK is saying that Glasgow didn't have a male Asiatic Black Bear, rather he is saying that Dudley haven't had a male bear while they have had the cats
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EvilKittie
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sorry for the clarity, f im correct arent they around 32?
Pertinax, don't know if you got an answer to this, but yes the moat does still have water in it, a dirty grey/ green colour.
And I agree with your idea to have the orang house turned into a house for something else, while the orangs are moved to a more suitable area.
If the moat still holds water then it would be easier to incorporate it into some new exhibit. What about sealions or seals?
bigcat speciali
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I wish!! There was a huge debate when we had the bears at Glasgow regarding their age, even when Dudley came to take the two bears away, the ages and who owned them was surrounded by cloudy doubt. When they left Glasgow, the bears were put on the vet and transport sheet at 36 (that was back in 2003) and Dudley were keen that they were the original owners however, in January 2004, a document was shown and Dudley acknowledged that the bears were Glasgow's. - But as I say, this is in debate. Bongo, the male Asiatic, his age was reparted to be 30 when we rescued him and then when the bear arrived at Gatwick, the paperwork said 3 ??; however, when the bear was undergoing surgery for testicular cancer, we and the vet, including Anna Merideth said that the bear was 37-40 years of age. The ARKS sheet that I still have for the bears state: Age Unknown; Donation Unknown; Birth Type Unknown; Birth Date Unknown; Studbook Number Unknown; Accession Number M2907; Invetory Number 10Y. 3M. 19D; Reception 21 Nov 1989.
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The sealions already have a large pool, so this narrow moat would be no benefit for them, seals it maybe could work with, or even something like pelicans.
EvilKittie
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I wish!! There was a huge debate when we had the bears at Glasgow regarding their age, even when Dudley came to take the two bears away, the ages and who owned them was surrounded by cloudy doubt. When they left Glasgow, the bears were put on the vet and transport sheet at 36 (that was back in 2003) and Dudley were keen that they were the original owners however, in January 2004, a document was shown and Dudley acknowledged that the bears were Glasgow's. - But as I say, this is in debate. Bongo, the male Asiatic, his age was reparted to be 30 when we rescued him and then when the bear arrived at Gatwick, the paperwork said 3 ??; however, when the bear was undergoing surgery for testicular cancer, we and the vet, including Anna Merideth said that the bear was 37-40 years of age. The ARKS sheet that I still have for the bears state: Age Unknown; Donation Unknown; Birth Type Unknown; Birth Date Unknown; Studbook Number Unknown; Accession Number M2907; Invetory Number 10Y. 3M. 19D; Reception 21 Nov 1989.
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cant they run a test?
The chimp house doesn't have seperate indoor sections if that's what you mean.
Yeah thats what I meant. It was in response to Johnstoni's idea of swapping the orangutans and chimps. While i have no doubt the orangs would probably make a lot more use of the outside than the chimps do unfortunately there would be no way of seperating Ben and Jorong
EvilKittie
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it does have a back area. :O which i assume they can separate off since there is two chimp sized doors
I'll have to have a closer look next time i go, is it just a small storage area at the back at the moment then?