Werribee Open Range Zoo Werribee Open Range Zoo expansion.

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I thought it might be wise to start a new thread, seperate from the news thread, where we can dissect the the trickle of blueprints and statements on Werribee's expansion and discuss the progress as it happens over the next couple of years.

To get things going, I found the plans linked below, which might be of interest to those who have been searching for some nice hi-resolution images of the proposed development:

Werribee Open Range Zoo Redevelopment / ARM Architecture

I've also added these two images that have been circulating on news sites:

A)
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B)
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Usually these things change a bit along the way, but these various blueprints/maps largely match up and with some of the timelines being stated by the zoo, I'm feeling like this might be very close to the final product.

After studying it closely, here are some of the things I noted of interest:

- Overall, the zoos is set to more than double in size from a visitor perspective. And it's going to be a lot more accessible by foot, which is going to be a huge improvement and something the zoo badly needs.

- The Sky Safari gondola looks like it will carry visitors between three stations: One located across the river at the zoos "lower savanna", one at nearby the main entrance/hub and another in the new elephant area. I like the look of the stations designs and think a gondola is a great idea for the zoo. It has some impressive topography.

- The lower savanna station appears to have walking trails around it, suggesting visitors can disembark and get an overlook of the existing African animals in the floodplain and I'm going to guess a more up-close look at some the zoos rhinos, given the Rhino Retreat is marked as being adjacent to this area. Likely this "retreat" is a way for displaying some of the animals such as bulls otherwise not on display in the savanna or animals being paired for breeding. A new bridge over the river appear to make this area accessible by foot also.

- The lion exhibit is to extended at the rear in what looks to take advantage of the road that runs behind in the nyala paddock for safari bus viewing. This is a good idea as I personally have never liked Werribee's lion exhibit. From the outset its always felt small and awkward with the rear exhibit essentially off-display. This would correct what it a pretty flawed design.

- The hyena exhibit looks like its next to the wild dogs, which is ideal since 90% of zoo visitors still thing the wild dogs ARE hyena's. By placing them adjacent it offers an opportunity to draw comparison and educate on the differences between these totally unrelated animals.
- You can see that they are planning a new larger Safari station slightly northwest of the existing one.

- The 22 hectare Elephant Sanctuary looks like its going to be located on land that currently is entirely unused by the zoo. By the plans it looks pretty terrific, I'm particularly fond of the large riverbank and bridges going over it. its looking like five or six seperate paddocks. And whilst I assume it's not all going to open at once, thats plenty of room for growing the herd, both naturally and with further transfers from zoos elsewhere.


- Bison Plains from the map marked A) appears to be just simple paddocks lining the opposite side of the road that runs along the river. These already exist and are seen the safari tour and currently house odd and ends: a few bachelor antelope groups and domestic (longhorn) cattle. its probable that some adjustments will be made to these paddocks to enlarge them and make for better viewing and perhaps even revised to become drive through (although the maps doesn't seem to indicate this). In any event, its clear why the "Bison Plains" are the first stage of development and its because they currently reside on the site of the future "Waterhole" zone.

- The Waterhole appears to be a large walk-through area similar in scale to the existing African trail, that adjoins the elephants and links back to the Safari station. This area appears to be a total redevelopment of the paddocks that currently houses bison, wild horses, camels and oryx. This is the area that intrigues me most because despite the word "waterhole" evoking African connotations, nothing explicitly says this is the case. My hope is that this area is earmarked for Asian animals as I think doing so will allow the zoo to take advantage of all the asian ungulates that are available in an otherwise limited pool of hoofstock, as well as to include some other mammals types for interest sake. In my mind the Terai of northeastern India rivals the African savanna for diversity and its going to provide a nice compliment to the Asian elephants who are going to seem a little out of place in an otherwise African-themed zoo. However, as much as i'd love to see tigers, leopards, otters, macaques, deer, banteng, buffalo and indian rhinos move to Werribee, I'm begrudgingly going to put my money on this area housing a mixed bag of leftover ungulate species and bachelors displaced by the works, perhaps a bit of future-proofing for housing any additional acquisitions. Otherwise, they'd have announced an "asian themed precinct". But we can always hold out hope that someone of influence reads this and claims the idea as their own....

Anyhow thats my observations, love to hear your thoughts. Did I miss anything?
 

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I thought it might be wise to start a new thread, seperate from the news thread, where we can dissect the the trickle of blueprints and statements on Werribee's expansion and discuss the progress as it happens over the next couple of years.

To get things going, I found the plans linked below, which might be of interest to those who have been searching for some nice hi-resolution images of the proposed development:

Werribee Open Range Zoo Redevelopment / ARM Architecture

I've also added these two images that have been circulating on news sites:

A)
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B)
View attachment 470700

Usually these things change a bit along the way, but these various blueprints/maps largely match up and with some of the timelines being stated by the zoo, I'm feeling like this might be very close to the final product.

After studying it closely, here are some of the things I noted of interest:

- Overall, the zoos is set to more than double in size from a visitor perspective. And it's going to be a lot more accessible by foot, which is going to be a huge improvement and something the zoo badly needs.

- The Sky Safari gondola looks like it will carry visitors between three stations: One located across the river at the zoos "lower savanna", one at nearby the main entrance/hub and another in the new elephant area. I like the look of the stations designs and think a gondola is a great idea for the zoo. It has some impressive topography.

- The lower savanna station appears to have walking trails around it, suggesting visitors can disembark and get an overlook of the existing African animals in the floodplain and I'm going to guess a more up-close look at some the zoos rhinos, given the Rhino Retreat is marked as being adjacent to this area. Likely this "retreat" is a way for displaying some of the animals such as bulls otherwise not on display in the savanna or animals being paired for breeding. A new bridge over the river appear to make this area accessible by foot also.

- The lion exhibit is to extended at the rear in what looks to take advantage of the road that runs behind in the nyala paddock for safari bus viewing. This is a good idea as I personally have never liked Werribee's lion exhibit. From the outset its always felt small and awkward with the rear exhibit essentially off-display. This would correct what it a pretty flawed design.

- The hyena exhibit looks like its next to the wild dogs, which is ideal since 90% of zoo visitors still thing the wild dogs ARE hyena's. By placing them adjacent it offers an opportunity to draw comparison and educate on the differences between these totally unrelated animals.
- You can see that they are planning a new larger Safari station slightly northwest of the existing one.

- The 22 hectare Elephant Sanctuary looks like its going to be located on land that currently is entirely unused by the zoo. By the plans it looks pretty terrific, I'm particularly fond of the large riverbank and bridges going over it. its looking like five or six seperate paddocks. And whilst I assume it's not all going to open at once, thats plenty of room for growing the herd, both naturally and with further transfers from zoos elsewhere.


- Bison Plains from the map marked A) appears to be just simple paddocks lining the opposite side of the road that runs along the river. These already exist and are seen the safari tour and currently house odd and ends: a few bachelor antelope groups and domestic (longhorn) cattle. its probable that some adjustments will be made to these paddocks to enlarge them and make for better viewing and perhaps even revised to become drive through (although the maps doesn't seem to indicate this). In any event, its clear why the "Bison Plains" are the first stage of development and its because they currently reside on the site of the future "Waterhole" zone.

- The Waterhole appears to be a large walk-through area similar in scale to the existing African trail, that adjoins the elephants and links back to the Safari station. This area appears to be a total redevelopment of the paddocks that currently houses bison, wild horses, camels and oryx. This is the area that intrigues me most because despite the word "waterhole" evoking African connotations, nothing explicitly says this is the case. My hope is that this area is earmarked for Asian animals as I think doing so will allow the zoo to take advantage of all the asian ungulates that are available in an otherwise limited pool of hoofstock, as well as to include some other mammals types for interest sake. In my mind the Terai of northeastern India rivals the African savanna for diversity and its going to provide a nice compliment to the Asian elephants who are going to seem a little out of place in an otherwise African-themed zoo. However, as much as i'd love to see tigers, leopards, otters, macaques, deer, banteng, buffalo and indian rhinos move to Werribee, I'm begrudgingly going to put my money on this area housing a mixed bag of leftover ungulate species and bachelors displaced by the works, perhaps a bit of future-proofing for housing any additional acquisitions. Otherwise, they'd have announced an "asian themed precinct". But we can always hold out hope that someone of influence reads this and claims the idea as their own....

Anyhow thats my observations, love to hear your thoughts. Did I miss anything?
I am very happy to see at long last a major upgrade for the Werribee zoo, This now is a good chance of lifting themselves to another level. I believe their elephant exhibit will be a winner for them and to get back on track breeding wise.
Also pleased to see them getting away from the Africa theme (and leftovers) being the main sight of interest for the zoo, I do agree with you a Asian themed precinct would work well even more so if they were to acquire Indian rhinos and work with the TWPZ in a breeding program for this species would go well, There are enough of them world wide to acquire some. I believe another species of rhino held there would go well for them and the visitors!
 
I am very happy to see at long last a major upgrade for the Werribee zoo, This now is a good chance of lifting themselves to another level. I believe their elephant exhibit will be a winner for them and to get back on track breeding wise.
Also pleased to see them getting away from the Africa theme (and leftovers) being the main sight of interest for the zoo, I do agree with you a Asian themed precinct would work well even more so if they were to acquire Indian rhinos and work with the TWPZ in a breeding program for this species would go well, There are enough of them world wide to acquire some. I believe another species of rhino held there would go well for them and the visitors!

Indian rhinos are the obvious replacements for Melbourne’s elephant complex, though. It would need at most minor amendments.
 
Indian rhinos are the obvious replacements for Melbourne’s elephant complex, though. It would need at most minor amendments.

I was at the zoo today, studying the elephant exhibits and in my opinion they could actually be developed rather easily into space to suit just about anything. Once all the heavy steel fencing, cable and gates are removed (and hopefully recycled to the exhibit at Werribee) all you're left with is a beautifully forested pathway overlooking a deep mock-eroded riverbank style moat. I can see the zoo filling the moats with water and building new rear mesh fencing and using it to house tigers or even lowering the moats and building rear walls to house more orang-utans.

Probably the biggest challenge would be finding something to utilise the main pool enclosure and the large elephant barn which is designed for public viewing. Malayan tapirs are a perfect fit for the pool, but the zoos has but one older animal and is unlikely to flip on phasing them out.

Of course Indian rhino suit it perfectly as is, as you suggest, but I do feel that looking at the features of the area, its pretty much ripe for modifications (rather than a total redo) into anything the zoo wants more accommodation for.
 
I agree, but I hope not. There is very little chance that Melbourne Zoo's management would come up with something more interesting on that site.

It really is a rare opportunity: a substantial ready-made exhibit complex for a species that is:
a) conservation-dependent;
b) not yet properly established in the region, but with capacity to be so;
c) outrageously charismatic; and
d) from the continent that the existing theming notionally represents.
 
I agree, but I hope not. There is very little chance that Melbourne Zoo's management would come up with something more interesting on that site.

It really is a rare opportunity: a substantial ready-made exhibit complex for a species that is:
a) conservation-dependent;
b) not yet properly established in the region, but with capacity to be so;
c) outrageously charismatic; and
d) from the continent that the existing theming notionally represents.
Very well said @CGSwans
 
For reference here's a plan for the expansion:

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The first stage seems to be renovating the Upper Savannah area (which was recently vacated by Texas Longhorns) will hold Prezwalski's Horse and Bison. Construction has recently begun, and it should be finished next year - 2023.

The Rhino Retreat is also shown, and this is where the current off display rhino enclosures are. If the scale is correct (and it is in that specific area), it seems it won't be as big as I thought.

The other thing to note is that the current Arid part of the Bus Tour will be demolished. Not sure what this means for the Dromedary Camels and Scimitar Horned Oryx, although they could easily be moved into the Waterhole enclosure, or even the Lower Savannah.

Hyenas will also receive an enclosure in between the current African Wild Dog enclosure and the Kubu Hippo River. The lions were supposed to receive an extension (so they could be viewable by the safari too) but it dosen't seem like their enclosures are changed based on this map (although of course, it won't be highly accurate with many things chopped and changed.

The other big part is 'The Waterhole'. Species aren't listed for this area unfortunately, so i'm not really sure what the plan is here.

And finally, there's the 50 acre Elephant Retreat which is scheduled to be completed by 2024, with the herd moving from Melbourne. This will be built on the former Australian trail which has been off limits for years now.

A new entrance hub is also planned, alongside a gondola which will span quite a distance! Definitely further than Tarongas.

Overall, this is quite an exciting time for Werribee. All of this is planned to be completed within the next ten years time. By then, Werribee may very well be one of the best open range zoos worldwide. We'll have to wait and see; they definitely have a lot of potential.
 
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I was comparing the Werribee visitor map to the maps of the expansion masterplan: https://www.zoo.org.au/media/4277/werribee-open-range-zoo-map-october-2020.pdf

I gather that the savannah is actually to the left of the visitor map, even though the map itself implies that the savannah is on the right? I suppose that the bus tour leaves from where it is referenced on the map, then drives around the top of the zoo to access the savannah? I have been to Werribee, although it was (a) when I was a child and (b) early 2009, so while I have memories of the zoo itself, the layout is lost to my recollection.

Where is/was the arid part of the bus tour located? Is it in the area where the Waterhole will be built? As suggested in the other thread (and there), it's likely that the Waterhole will be able to house surplus ungulates as needed by the zoo (which is a fairly practical step, even though it might not be as interesting as a fresh precinct), but I agree that an Asian-themed waterhole precinct would be exciting and connect with the elephants next door.
 
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I was comparing the Werribee visitor map to the maps of the expansion masterplan: https://www.zoo.org.au/media/4277/werribee-open-range-zoo-map-october-2020.pdf

I gather that the savannah is actually to the left of the visitor map, even though the map itself implies that the savannah is on the right? I suppose that the bus tour leaves from where it is referenced on the map, then drives around the top of the zoo to access the savannah? I have been to Werribee, although it was (a) when I was a child and (b) early 2009, so while I have memories of the zoo itself, the layout is lost to my recollection.

Where is/was the arid part of the bus tour located? Is it in the area where the Waterhole will be built? As suggested in the other thread (and there), it's likely that the Waterhole will be able to house surplus ungulates as needed by the zoo (which is a fairly practical step, even though it might not be as interesting as a fresh precinct), but I agree that an Asian-themed waterhole precinct would be exciting and connect with the elephants next door.

The lower savannah is to the left of the map across the Werribee river. The map is a little misleading :rolleyes: but that is where the safari begins before looping around the top of the zoo and then around to the lower savannah which is opposite the Australian area.

The arid part of the bus tour is first; you have the open area on your left (with camels/oryx) when you drive in and on the left is separated paddocks for bison and prezwalski's horse. The Waterhole will be built on this area. Bison (and Prezwalski's horse) will receive new enclosures on the Upper savannah I believe. Camels and Oryx will either be moved to the Lower savannah (With giraffes ect.) or will be moved into the new Waterhole precinct. Both don't really fit the waterhole theme though, so i'm not sure.
 
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The Perth elephants should be heading to Werribee imo. Burma (at Auckland) is another elephant who would best be at Werribee. In the case of both her and Perth's elephants; they'll have to be sent over to the US otherwise and it would be a big shame to lose Putra Mas who's a very valuable bull. I also wouldn't be surprised if Taronga's two cows joined the herd at Werribee too.
 
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The Perth elephants should be heading to Werribee imo. Burma (at Auckland) is another elephant who would best be at Werribee. In the case of both her and Perth's elephants; they'll have to be sent over to the US otherwise and it would be a big shame to lose Putra Mas who's a very valuable bull. I also wouldn't be surprised if Taronga's two cows joined the herd at Werribee too.

Auckland wants to send Burma to a collection that will continue to free-handle her. That's very unlikely to be at a Zoos Victoria facility.
 
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I also wouldn't be surprised if Taronga's two cows joined the herd at Werribee too.

As of last year, the plan is for Pak Boon and Tang Mo to transfer to Taronga Western Plains Zoo. Though it’d be great for Werribee to take them on versus Dubbo (which has significantly less space), I’m of the belief Werribee would be reluctant.

Even if she’s still part of the breeding programme (unconfirmed), Pak Boon comes with a health condition that requires management; and Tang Mo is non reproductive. If Pak Boon is non breeding, neither elephant will enhance Werribee’s herd and there’s always the potential for conflict.

I’m hopeful they’ll consider Permai (1989) and Burma (1982). Perth may be able to negotiate it given Putra Mas’ value to Perth; while I hope they’d consider Burma on humanitarian grounds (she has no other options within the region).
Auckland wants to send Burma to a collection that will continue to free-handle her. That's very unlikely to be at a Zoos Victoria facility.

That was their preference, but with that option unavailable regionally, they’re not dismissing Werribee. It may be determined that a transfer to Werribee (which can provide a multigenerational herd) is preferable than export to the US to live in free contact with regards to her welfare.
 
That was their preference, but with that option unavailable regionally, they’re not dismissing Werribee. It may be determined that a transfer to Werribee (which can provide a multigenerational herd) is preferable than export to the US to live in free contact with regards to her welfare.

Sure. I can see my post was a little unclear but what I indeed meant was that they would be very unlikely to get a free-contact situation for her at Werribee. If they're willing to drop that aspiration, it could very well happen.
 
That was their preference, but with that option unavailable regionally, they’re not dismissing Werribee. It may be determined that a transfer to Werribee (which can provide a multigenerational herd) is preferable than export to the US to live in free contact with regards to her welfare.

Worst case scenario could they just manage Permai and Burma as a pair under free contact at Werribee? They have plenty of extra exhibits and they are both amiable so should be at least cordial with one another as full-time companions, like they don't necessarily need to be fully integrated into the matriarchal herd. Short visits with a few members of the matriarchal herd like Mek Kapah and Kulab for a couple of hours every day would be socially enriching and not require transferring them fully to protected contact. Eventually, they could make visits for a few hours as a pair to the matriarchal exhibit before returning together to free contact at the end of the day.

The only catch is 'free contact' keepers and infrastructure would have to be brought in. But if all else fails and it's deemed unfair to change style after they have spent so many years in a free contact routine, then I could see this working.
 
Worst case scenario could they just manage Permai and Burma as a pair under free contact at Werribee? They have plenty of extra exhibits and they are both amiable so should be at least cordial with one another as full-time companions, like they don't necessarily need to be fully integrated into the matriarchal herd. Short visits with a few members of the matriarchal herd like Mek Kapah and Kulab for a couple of hours every day would be socially enriching and not require transferring them fully to protected contact. Eventually, they could make visits for a few hours as a pair to the matriarchal exhibit before returning together to free contact at the end of the day.

The only catch is 'free contact' keepers and infrastructure would have to be brought in. But if all else fails and it's deemed unfair to change style after they have spent so many years in a free contact routine, then I could see this working.

No, the move to protected contact was a policy change by Zoos Victoria. The keepers would therefore be prevented from having free contact with Burma and Permai, even though they’d theoretically be able to do so.

In the event that Burma and Permai cannot integrate into the herd, they could be held separately. They’re middle aged elephants and Werribee may be happy to manage them separately with the view they’d give visitors something to see throughout the complex (the matriarchal herd can’t fill the whole complex by itself).
 
@Jambo Could you foresee a continuation of the elephant exhibit with an Asian plains themed area perhaps with Asian water Buffalo in a water hole type display along with Nilgai and Blackbuck antelopes with perhaps some access to the elephant areas by the antelopes?.Perhaps at some future date a exhibit area for Indian rhinos?
 
@Jambo Could you foresee a continuation of the elephant exhibit with an Asian plains themed area perhaps with Asian water Buffalo in a water hole type display along with Nilgai and Blackbuck antelopes with perhaps some access to the elephant areas by the antelopes?.Perhaps at some future date a exhibit area for Indian rhinos?
I could potentially see that occurring down the line. Blackbuck will be mixed in with the elephants long term.

I do note the current paddock that is viewable from the walking trail towards the elephants, which currently holds a bachelor group of Zebra is of reasonable size. They could very well utilise it to hold another species of Asian hoofstock long term, potentially Water Buffalo. I'd love to see Indian Rhino at Werribee too. They would be a much better fit to that exhibit however there would need to be more regional numbers for this to happen.
 
I could potentially see that occurring down the line. Blackbuck will be mixed in with the elephants long term.

I do note the current paddock that is viewable from the walking trail towards the elephants, which currently holds a bachelor group of Zebra is of reasonable size. They could very well utilise it to hold another species of Asian hoofstock long term, potentially Water Buffalo. I'd love to see Indian Rhino at Werribee too. They would be a much better fit to that exhibit however there would need to be more regional numbers for this to happen.

That’s a good point about the zebra paddock that houses the surplus geldings. It would be relatively simple to replace them with another ungulate species like Water buffalo or an antelope species.

I would otherwise say anything that requires a greater investment (e.g. Indian rhinoceros) would be a very long way away. Priorities will surely be shifting to the (African focussed) remainder of the masterplan once the elephant complex is complete.

I really hope of all the projects, the Spotted hyena eventuate. They’re doing extremely well in the region and an additional holder would be extremely useful.
 
That’s a good point about the zebra paddock that houses the surplus geldings. It would be relatively simple to replace them with another ungulate species like Water buffalo or an antelope species.

I would otherwise say anything that requires a greater investment (e.g. Indian rhinoceros) would be a very long way away. Priorities will surely be shifting to the (African focussed) remainder of the masterplan once the elephant complex is complete.

I really hope of all the projects, the Spotted hyena eventuate. They’re doing extremely well in the region and an additional holder would be extremely useful.
The Waterhole precinct (or trail) that was planned to be constructed at the same time of the elephants has been scrapped which does indicate the priority as of right now is/was the elephants and will be the gondola next.

The Waterhole Precinct was going to provide new facilities for some of the carnivores (Spotted Hyena, Cheetah and African Wild Dog) and also a new Safari Station with a new Meerkat habitat. This all hinges on moving the Camels and Scimitar Horned Oryx to another habitat. I'm not sure what the intention is there.
 
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