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I'm actually surprised they can live in that water without being poisoned by it. The RSPCA would be quick to complain if it was a dog's water bowl, but not for a herd of hippos apparently...

If zoos have to get there licence from the local authority then, surely its there reponsibility too make sure they do something about it???
 
If zoos have to get there licence from the local authority then, surely its there reponsibility too make sure they do something about it???

Does that involve a compulsory vetinary inspection? If so, no self- respecting vet should okay those conditions. The problem is they sometimes don't know/ aren't aware what is or isn't normal for wild species. Hippos naturally live(normally) in flowing rivers and large lakes in CLEAN water- sometimes so clear they can be seen walking along the bottom.
 
Have you tried keeping hippo's water clean though?
I've just done my work experience, and had to clean out the Pygmy hippo pools. They were indoors and filtered, and each pool only had one hippo in.
Two hours later you would have had no idea they had been cleaned.
The lake at WMSP does get cleaned every so often, but it would be impossible to keep the lake water clear.
However I do agree that the land area is a bit small.
 
Have you tried keeping hippo's water clean though?

The lake at WMSP does get cleaned every so often, but it would be impossible to keep the lake water clear.

However I do agree that the land area is a bit small.

1. I appreciate its totally impossible to keep Hippo water clean as they **** in it anyway. Many/most hippo exhibits I've seen have dirty water with dung floating in it etc- it is a problem for zoos and they are rarely able keep them in clear water without hugely expensive filtration or running water, though it is being done with some of the newer underwater viewing exhibits. But I don't think any zoo should exhibit them unless they can keep the water at a TOLERABLE level of cleanliness.

2. Do they regularly drain the Lake at WMSP? I have never seen Hippos living in BLACK water anywhere before- it looked and smelt poisonous...

3. The Land area is very poor- a small grass paddock would be desirable- but I feel its less an issue than the water quality. (Longleat has a much bigger stream-fed lake with only a couple of Hippos, no apparent problem there).
 
I don't know how regularly they do it, but apparently they do...
As for the land area, there is an area of land next to the mini railway that the hippo's could have, all they'd need to do would be extend the fence.
 
I don't know how regularly they do it, but apparently they do...
As for the land area, there is an area of land next to the mini railway that the hippo's could have, all they'd need to do would be extend the fence.

I can imagine its a huge undertaking- maybe I went when a clean-out was well overdue.
A pity they can't give them the extra land too, if its easy to extend the existing area.
 
Well I think we all know where WMSP's priorities are, and it's not the hippos...
 
True, be great if they would move them off to another zoo with better facilities.

or in the mean time reduce the size of the herd, but then again they seem to get a lot of mileage in their pr of having one of the largest if not the largest herd of hippo in Europe.
 
Does that involve a compulsory vetinary inspection? If so, no self- respecting vet should okay those conditions. The problem is they sometimes don't know/ aren't aware what is or isn't normal for wild species... QUOTE]

During a zoo inspection there are usually two qualified zoo inspectors, a vet and the highest member of the animal department. The vet is usually the one most closely associated with the collection, as they can answer any queries that the zoo inspectors have. One of the zoo inspectors also tends to be the council officer that deals with local zoo licensing. The other inspector could also be a vet.

I cannot comment on the particulars of WMSP in reference to their hippo enclosure as I have not seen it. However a very good system (active filtration) is in place at Whipsnade to deal with the ever present effluent problem, though I accept it only has a couple of animals to cope with.
 
Thats a massive amount of hippos to have in captivity, no wonder they struggle to keep the pool clean! Although i think evwn nine hippos would have trouble dirtying longleats massive lake.
 
Thats a massive amount of hippos to have in captivity, no wonder they struggle to keep the pool clean! Although i think evwn nine hippos would have trouble dirtying longleats massive lake.

I believe they're all female except maybe one young male. A number have been bred there but there's no adult male in the group now..

The 'pool' is actually a narrow Lake which seems to be connected to a bigger one below it(not accessable to the Hippos). It is situated in a rather scruffy small valley behind the main amusement area and easy to miss.

the lake must be about one hundredth(or thousandth?) the size of Longleat's!!
 
Although isnt there a kind of barrier at longleat to keep the hippos going up to the part of the lake where the boats dock? I suppose there would have to be, would be chaos if not. As far as i remember the sealions can get over the barrier to the hippos side, because they are regularly seen sitting on top of ther hippos!
 
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