Knowsley Safari Park What's happened here?

Javan Rhino

Javan Rhino

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Just been doing a little searching around on Zootierlist, and it mentions under 'former holdings' for Quagga that Knowsley has had them. Considering that Knowsley Safari Park started in 1971 and the Quagga went extinct in 1883, there is an apparant problem here. Has Zootierlist made a massive mistake, or is there more to it?

ZootierlisteHomepage - link.
 
Javan Rhino said:
Just been doing a little searching around on Zootierlist, and it mentions under 'former holdings' for Quagga that Knowsley has had them. Considering that Knowsley Safari Park started in 1971 and the Quagga went extinct in 1883, there is an apparant problem here. Has Zootierlist made a massive mistake, or is there more to it?

ZootierlisteHomepage - link.
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Well I know nothing on the subject, but have easily worked out from the link you have provided that Knowsley was formerly the menagerie of the Earl of Derby before being a safari park. It appears he had some in the 1850s. Can anyone confirm this?
 
Knowlsey is/was also the home of the Lords of Derby and it was one of the much earlier ones who kept a large menagerie which included many unusual species, some of which are now extinct like Quaggas (I believe he bred them) and Passenger Pigeons.

Zootierlist has somehow connected the two and transferred this into the present.
 
Pertinax said:
Knowlsey is/was also the home of the Lords of Derby and it was one of the much earlier ones who kept a large menagerie which included many unusual species, some of which are now extinct like Quaggas (I believe he bred them) and Passenger Pigeons.

Zootierlist has somehow connected the two and transferred this into the present.
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Ahh, I didn't know it had merged past menageries with the safari park itself (though I assumed it was from a time there was no safari park), just wanted to confirm. Thanks for the info :)
 
Lord Stanley, 13th Earl of Derby, had an interesting private menagerie at Knowsley.

There is a painting, dated 1847, depicting quaggas at Knowsely. After Lord Stanley’s death, in 1851, the surviving female quagga was purchased by Artis (Amsterdam) Zoo.

Lord Stanely also had a private zoological museum. One of Lord Stanley’s museum collectors brought back the type specimen of giant eland; the specific name derbianus was bestowed in honour of Lord Derby.
 
Tim May said:
Lord Stanley, 13th Earl of Derby, had an interesting private menagerie at Knowsley.

There is a painting, dated 1847, depicting quaggas at Knowsely. After Lord Stanley’s death, in 1851, the surviving female quagga was purchased by Artis (Amsterdam Zoo).

Lord Stanely also had a private zoological museum. One of Lord Stanley’s museum collectors brought back the type specimen of giant eland; the specific name derbianus was bestowed in honour of Lord Derby.
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Ahh cool, thanks for the background info :)
 
Javan Rhino said:
Ahh cool, thanks for the background info :)
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Also the Stanley parakeet, the Derbyan parakeet, the Stanley crane (blue crane) and so on. Budgerigars were bred for the first time in the UK. Edward Lear was employed to teach the children to draw and to paint the specimens in the collection (hence Lear's macaw - the nonsense poetry was a sideline).

Alan
 
gentle lemur said:
Also the Stanley parakeet, the Derbyan parakeet, the Stanley crane (blue crane) and so on. Budgerigars were bred for the first time in the UK. Edward Lear was employed to teach the children to draw and to paint the specimens in the collection (hence Lear's macaw - the nonsense poetry was a sideline).

Alan
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Wow, some interesting stuff :). Derbyan parakeets are the ones that Chester have in the aviary next to the Asain Elephants, aren't they?
 
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