The Most Dangerous Game. I hope you were being sarcastic.
What's the thrill of hunting?
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The Most Dangerous Game. I hope you were being sarcastic.
It actually happened in some countries in Africa, I think Botswana was one. Probably over 100 years ago when you bough a hunting permit it had a list of species and how many of each were allowed to be shot. Apparently some listed bushman as a game animal and a limit of one.
nanoboy
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I was being sarcastic about animals being lower life-forms than humans.
I was being serious about hunting humans, because adrenaline junkies are always after the next hit. I can see a conversation at a hunting lodge after a a successful lion hunt drifting towards an operator mentioning that there is an exciting hunt in Afghanistan if anyone is interested in something even more thrilling.
To the hunters out there, surely you graduated from shooting rabbits to bigger game, and surely you dream of hunting even bigger game, like an elephant or brown bear?
Shakes head in disgust. All of us are blood thirsty killers I am sure. Those who want to preserve and protect nature need to stop demonizing hunters. We can be your greatest ally if you allow us.
thanks Monty I was trying to keep from directly calling anyone out. You said what I wanted to say though.
nanoboy
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I have never hunted, and my prejudice has never been a secret on this thread: I find hunting to be a revolting and primitive practice (except in certain circumstances, like controlling pest/invasive/introduced species).
Sticking with the theme of the hunting mindset folks, if it were legal (or you knew that there was no way to be caught) would you hunt humans? Of all species that could be classified as pests, humans probably top that list; so would you be interested in hunting humans to control numbers, if not for the thrill?
Humans are humans. The only way I would kill another human would be self defense or defense of property.
Thanks mate, prejudice is a bloody hard word for a redneck to spell.
nanoboy you should have a go at hunting, even with camera at first. North East of Melbourne is terrific Sambar hunting. After a while you may decide that you want to hunt and prepare your own food and Sambar are very good eating.
Thanks mate, prejudice is a bloody hard word for a redneck to spell.
nanoboy you should have a go at hunting, even with camera at first. North East of Melbourne is terrific Sambar hunting. After a while you may decide that you want to hunt and prepare your own food and Sambar are very good eating.
Haha I just didn't want to start a flame war and get banned. BTW I have a Masters Degree in Secondary Ed, I am a redneck but I can read haha.
How does Sambar taste compare to Elk or White tail venison?
Sure he is, but it doesn't change the fact that I find it strange that a person would pay his respect to what he regards as a magnificent nobel and beautiful animal by killing it.
Almost every hunter I have ever met claims to feel respect and awe at the magnificence of the animals they are hunting, and they usually continue to ooze awe over the dead carcase after they have shot it.
A lot are religious, and thank God for the gift of the animal, as if their worship of God meant that God rewarded them with the animal and guided their bullet to it's vital parts.
The fact that God's alleged guidance was sometimes off and the animal was only wounded was glossed over, (Maybe God arranged for the professional hunter to finish the job off)
Killing a human is a murder and is illegal, shooting an animal is not if proper regulations are not.
I'm not demonizing hunters, I accept there will always be hunters, which is why I approve of hunting farms where hunters can shoot animals bred for the purpose, and in the case of culls to control animals, why not get in people who want to hunt.
there has always been and always will be hunters, hunters more so than most non hunters do not want to see animals hunted out.
And most hunters get very angry when they see people shooting large numbers of animals for fun and leaving the bodies untouched where they drop.
Most of my family and many of my friends are hunters, I respect their love of hunting, just as they respect my desire not to hunt.
My family business is Professional hunting, and breeding animals for hunting. Unlike my brothers I chose to find another line of work, though I spent a lot of years in the family business before leaving.
However I would have to say the most fanatical, unreasoning, obnoxious and downright dangerous type of people involved with hunting is not the hunters, but the animal rights protesters.
I have been closely associated (though I definitely was not one of them) with some of these people in NZ, where they are quite mild compared to other countries such as the UK, and I have never met more fanatical mentally disturbed risky individuals. We are just lucky in NZ that so far none of them have the determination of their UK colleagues to actually commit murder and destruction in the name of animals rights.
So far!!!!
Im not talking about the legal aspects, just the mind sets.
Someone mentioned bushmen in Botswana could once be hunted legally, actually it was most of southern Africa at one stage where bushmen were regarded as animals and vermin, and could legally be shot. Hunters didn't need a permit or a license at that time, they could simply shoot any bushmen they saw.
this was justified at the time by the belief bushmen were not human, but rather a form of baboon.
In Australia up until the early (some say as late as the 60s) 1900s it was legal to shoot aborigines. They too were regarded as dangerous vermin to be exterminated.
So all it really takes is a change of designation of the prey to make it acceptable.
Amen to that.
For me? No but that's why personal ethics are personal ethics. I am sure there are some sickos out there that think shooting people is cool.
I have problems shooting deer even though I am experienced. My personal ethics are against Canned hunting and I make sure every animal I kill I either butcher for meat or donate it to a food bank. I also practice shooting so that I am confident that the shots I take are one shot one kill. I don't want the animal suffering, not to mention a whitetail that is agitated is pumping hormones that give the meat a gamey taste. I pass up most shots unless I am 100 percent sure I have a clean one shot kill.
That is just my own personal set of ethics.
BTW I want to visit New Zealand one day. It looks like a beautiful place.
Which, in a way, was the point I was trying to make in another thread.
Over 100 years, we change our attitudes over things.
What was seen as acceptable behaviour in Victorian times would be condemned today.
The killing of Zebra, amongst other things, for fun or sport, in the United States, to me, is beyond my comprehension.
The only explanations I can think of are the adrenaline rush that the hunter gets when stalking and killing.
Or the satisfaction of showing his colleagues back home the evidence of his apparent skill and bravery, such as a zebra skin rug or set of antlers, or animals head.
Both reasons are self satisfaction,I cannot think of a better explanation.
But its no worse than the behaviour displayed by many drivers on the road, intent on trying to kill each other with an automobile or truck.
Chip I get just as much thrill from being outdoors whether I am hunting or not.
nanoboy
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Thanks mate, prejudice is a bloody hard word for a redneck to spell.
nanoboy you should have a go at hunting, even with camera at first. North East of Melbourne is terrific Sambar hunting. After a while you may decide that you want to hunt and prepare your own food and Sambar are very good eating.
I went looking for deer in the Grampians, but I did not see any.
I am more than happy to go deer-spotting, and I wouldn't mind eating some deer, but I can't pull the trigger. Don't get me wrong - I used to be in a shooting club where we did clay shooting and target shooting, so I have no problem handling a firearm; I just can't kill an animal.
Folks, this thread is devolving into the other thread with 'chip' and 'kiwipo' et al. This thread is about the mindset of hunters: not the pros and cons of hunting. Let's keep the two threads separate if possible please.
