Where to Find Extinct In The Wild Species

The Speeding Carnotaurus

The Speeding Carnotaurus

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Hey,
Does anyone know of places to find EW species?
I know of just a few:
Scimitar Horned Oryx: African Lion Safari
Guam Kingfisher: Milwaukee County Zoo
 
To be precise, Guam kingfisher is not an extinct in the wild species, is the Guam nominate subspecies extinct in the wild of the whole Micronesian kingfisher species, Pohnpei and Palaos subspecies are not extinct in the wild.

You can find Endler's livebearer in any home aquarium and pet shop in the world. Many partula snails at London zoo, but behind the scenes. Butterfly splitfin is common in captivity, I've seen at Prague world aquarium and in a pet shop. London zoo keeps various puppy fish species not kept in other european zoos or in few of them, including EW Cyprinodon longidorsalis and alvarezi. Of Course Al Wabra holds almost the world population of Spix's macaws, but recently Singapore (?) acquired a pair. Socorro dove is pretty common in zoos, I've seen in London and Wuppertal. Parque das Aves in Brazil breeded Alagoas curassow.
 
Kakapo said:
To be precise, Guam kingfisher is not an extinct in the wild species, is the Guam nominate subspecies extinct in the wild of the whole Micronesian kingfisher species, Pohnpei and Palaos subspecies are not extinct in the wild.
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While I can appreciate that taxonomic splits are often not universally accepted, I do find the way you state your viewpoints on such issues as though they are the only option concerning, as it may mislead and confuse some people.

The IUCN red list considers the Guam, Pohnpei & Palau kingfishers distinct enough to be separate species.

On the subject of extinct in the wild species, Taronga zoo has colonies of both Lister's gecko and Christmas Island blue-tailed skink, though I don't think either are on display.
 
Swampy said:
While I can appreciate that taxonomic splits are often not universally accepted, I do find the way you state your viewpoints on such issues as though they are the only option concerning, as it may mislead and confuse some people.

The IUCN red list considers the Guam, Pohnpei & Palau kingfishers distinct enough to be separate species.

On the subject of extinct in the wild species, Taronga zoo has colonies of both Lister's gecko and Christmas Island blue-tailed skink, though I don't think either are on display.
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While I usually don't accept spilts that seems illogic, I'm well aware of their existence for almost each one of the changes. However, not in this case. Nobody in the world considered previously the subspecies of Micronesian kingfisher as different species. Your post is the first notice ever of that spilting, so is your post what is rather confusing and misleading.
 
Kakapo said:
Nobody in the world considered previously the subspecies of Micronesian kingfisher as different species.
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The IUCN does in fact (as @Swampy pointed out), and states Todiramphus pelewensis and T. reichenbachii as similar but different species. The Guam kingfisher (T. cinnamominus) is listed as Extinct in the wild.

My source is, of course, the IUCN red list.
 
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Kakapo said:
Nobody in the world considered previously the subspecies of Micronesian kingfisher as different species. Your post is the first notice ever of that spilting, so is your post what is rather confusing and misleading.
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They have been split since 2014, originally in the HBW using the Tobias Criteria for determining species. It has been widely followed since then.
 
Swampy said:
On the subject of extinct in the wild species, Taronga zoo has colonies of both Lister's gecko and Christmas Island blue-tailed skink, though I don't think either are on display.
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In case you haven't seen this thread (and for the benefit of other members): The Pink House - Re-introduction of the Christmas Island Blue-tailed Skink

And on the subject of extinct-in-the-wild insular lizards: Auckland Zoo - Cobble Skinks (including a photo of one at Auckland Zoo by @Najade)
 
If JAZA's website is updated then Pere Divid's deer can be found in Tama zoo, Asa zoo, Kumamoto zoo and Akita city Omoriyama zoo.
Scimitar horned oryx can be found at Iwate safari park, Nasu safari park, Tama zoo, Chiba city zoo, Hamura zoo, Nagano Chasuyama zoo, Adventure world, Himeji Cantral park, Izu animal kingdom (not affiliated with Kobe and Nasu animal kingdom), Akiyoshidai Safari land (known as Yamaguchi safari park here) and African safari from Usa.

I hope that helps carno
 
These are the ones I know of:

Guam Kingfisher: Milwaukee County Zoo, Lincoln Park Zoo, Brookfield Zoo (behind the scenes)
Guam Rail: Lincoln Park Zoo
Wyoming Toad: Como Park Zoo (behind the scenes), National Mississippi River Museum and Aquarium
Butterfly Splitfin: Shedd Aquarium
 
There's currently only two mammal species that are classified as Extinct in the Wild.
The Scimitar-horned Oryx is in the process of being re-introduced to the wild and will hopefully be moved off the list in a decade or two. There are currently nearly 2,000 individuals in the stud book, spread over 200 institutions. The Sahara Conservation Fund (Sahara Conservation Fund | Sahara Conservation Fund) is in charge of their reintroduction. Here's a short article on it: Rewilding the African Scimitar-Horned Oryx | At the Smithsonian | Smithsonian

The Pere David's Deer has similar numbers in captivity outside of China. Within China there are 50+ herds, most being less than 10 individuals but some numbering in the hundreds. Few are truly wild; most are still at least being supplementally fed. The Red List page goes into detail about their situation in China: Elaphurus davidianus (Pere David's Deer, Père David's Deer)

Several other mammal species have been successfully removed from being EitW, or saved just before being placed on it, including the black footed ferret and the red wolf, two other species that are very common in American zoos.
 
birdsandbats said:
These are the ones I know of:

Guam Kingfisher: Milwaukee County Zoo, Lincoln Park Zoo, Brookfield Zoo (behind the scenes)
Guam Rail: Lincoln Park Zoo
Wyoming Toad: Como Park Zoo (behind the scenes), National Mississippi River Museum and Aquarium
Butterfly Splitfin: Shedd Aquarium
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I know Cheyenne Mountain and I believe Detroit have Wyoming toads
 
some partial lists

Guam kingfisher: Albuquerque, Bronx, Houston, National Aviary, New Orleans, San Antonio, San Diego, Smithsonian, St Louis
Guam rail: National Aviary, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, San Diego, Smithsonian
Hawaiian crow: San Diego
Pere David's deer: Aggieland, Arbuckle, Bronx, Cherokee Trace, Gentry, Monroe, Oklahoma City, Omaha, San Diego, Sharkarosa
Scimitarhorn Oryx: Aggieland, Arbuckle, Cherokee Trace, Dallas, Fossil Rim, Gentry, Natural Bridge, New Braunfels, San Diego, Smithsonian
Socorro dove: Albuquerque, Smithsonian
 
Guam kingisher at Bronx? Where, in World of Birds maybe? I missed both the animal and the signage...
 
Kakapo said:
While I usually don't accept spilts that seems illogic, I'm well aware of their existence for almost each one of the changes. However, not in this case. Nobody in the world considered previously the subspecies of Micronesian kingfisher as different species. Your post is the first notice ever of that spilting, so is your post what is rather confusing and misleading.
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That's why they're called discoveries..

Kakapo said:
Guam kingisher at Bronx? Where, in World of Birds maybe? I missed both the animal and the signage...
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They have a pair in the Aquatic Bird House and additional animals behind the scenes.

~Thylo
 
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