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Hi, I was reading about the Hippos history and saw the intials DNS after births, What does this stand for? I also wonder if Dublin Zoo is going to try and breed Heidi with the older male Henri?
 
Hi, I was reading about the Hippos history and saw the intials DNS after births, What does this stand for? I also wonder if Dublin Zoo is going to try and breed Heidi with the older male Henri?

DNS means, "did not survive".
 
Thanks, is this common, I am surprised that even in 2006 the calf didn't survive or was it not neccesarilly 'born'?
 
Hippos seem to produce an enormous number of failed births where the calves die on the first day or are still born. Both qualify as 'DNS'.

Through his life the old male 'Henry' at Whipsnade fathered something like 24 calves to two females(one being his daughter) but about 14 of them were DNS. Look at any Hippo studbook and you'll see this pattern repeated in almost every zoo that breed Hippo.

Dublin- the female 'Heidi' has already had at least one(DNS) calf by the old male Henri(not the same animal as Whipsnade male above)
 
Thanks for the info, good to know. I spoke to a keeper from Dublin who said they hope to mate Heidi with Henri at the zoo and hope for a calf later this year or early next. Up until recently she was on a contraceptive pill to prevent this.
I wondered why they had split up Hoovie and Heidi, as she was brought in to be with him originally, but he said that Hoovie was recomended more by the studbook to go to Whipsnade and also Henri and Heidi also match up well in the records for future calves, so it was a win - win situation, as Henri was always seperated from Hoovie and Hedi when they were all there, normally in a smaller outside area leading into the house (where a pool was avaiable fro him). At least now he has company and a mate, and Hoovie has a new family too!
 
At least now he has company and a mate, and Hoovie has a new family too!

The move of one male Hippo from Dublin to Whipsnade has worked out well for all concerned. Being social animals its far better not to have one living on its own. Good to hear that Dublin hope to breed from their remaining pair again too.

You may be aware that Hoovie is actually a descendant of a previous longstanding pair at Whipsnade- Henry & Belinda, which I mentioned above. Hoovie's mother (the one that swallowed the tennis ball) was born at Whipsnade, a daughter of Henry with his own daughter. But I doubt that came into the equation as to which male was sent there.
 
Yes your history was very interesting, it was terrible what happened to Linda. I was in the zoo the day it happened, the public outcry of affection for Hoovie was immense, glad to see he has a nice new home. I have seen pictures of the enclosure and it looks to be bigger with a much bigger pool than Dublin.
 
Forgive me if this is an error but ISIS is now listing 1:2 Reticulated Giraffe at Whipsnade. Has the long awaited replacement bull finally arrived, and if so where's he from?
 
A quick question Pertinax, regarding your hippo listing. Why have you seemingly put 1 animal under 2 names????:confused:
 
Whipsnade's breeding pair Henry & Belinda arrived there in 1950 (aged two)
Henry fathered 24(!) calves at Whipsnade, some by his own daughter Wendy who was born in 1967(including the female Wanda/Linda that went to Dublin) but 14 of those DNS. (Henry died in 1993, Belinda in 1995.) Its remarkable how many Hippo births are of calves that die almost straight away- in zoos everywhere.

Dublin-have had several different hippos, including a couple of males also born at Whipsnade Zoo,(they died) but the relevant ones are;
male Tom/Henri from Rotterdam (born in Amsterdam)
female Wanda/Linda from Whipsnade (born Whipsnade 1974 Henry x Wendy)

This pair bred several times at Dublin but some calves DNS. Others went to Longleat and Woburn. Hoover/Hoovie(9) was the last that survived.

After Linda's death from swallowing the tennis ball Dublin acquired the young female Heidi from Basel Zoo. She has bred once (in 2006), but it was a DNS. Fathered by the old male Henri.

So Hoover/Hoovie is a direct descendant of Henry/Belinda. With him gone to Whipsnade, Dublin still have(?) a pair- the old male Henri and younger female Heidi.

The same SB also lists West Midlands with 11 Hippos- largest group in Europe, but with no male at all- the last was 'Garfield' which died in 2006.
I think this is very interesting and well done for Whipsnade for breeding so many hippos in their history. But I can't quite understand what you mean with the bold names?
 
Oh, right, see what you mean now..;)

Its where the animal has had more than one name through its life. They sometimes get changed if the animal moves or gets a nickname given it by keepers. The previous name is usually shown on the studbook listing also to avoid any doubt about what individual it is.
Another example here is the old male Hippo at Dublin- Tom/Henri- he's now called Henri.
 
Well I have never heard Hoovie being called Hoover before, it has always been Hoovie.

Listed with both names on the Prague World Hippo List. I imagine he started out as 'Hoover' before it got shortened. 'Heidi' was also apparently called 'Yala' previously so listed as Yala/Heidi. Quite a few Hippos seem to have these double names.
 
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Oh, right, see what you mean now..;)

Its where the animal has had more than one name through its life. They sometimes get changed if the animal moves or gets a nickname given it by keepers. The previous name is usually shown on the studbook listing also to avoid any doubt about what individual it is.
Another example here is the old male Hippo at Dublin- Tom/Henri- he's now called Henri.
Thanks for answering. I think this is strange I hadn't actually realised animals had more than one name. But then again most people have more than one name. I bet if they put us all in a stud book they'd list our zoo chat name along with our real names.;)
 
Thanks for answering. I think this is strange I hadn't actually realised animals had more than one name.

There is another reason I've heard of for some species like Apes, where the staff have a name they use to call the animal indoors or for food. The animal has a different public name so that it doesn't respond to all and sundry and get confused by people calling its name needlessly- at least that's an explanation I've heard(yes, I'm confused too). But I don't think it applies to many.
 
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