Zoo Veldhoven Who recognizes these unidentified bird species from NOP Veldhoven (Netherlands)?

[Kowari]

About three weeks ago I visited the Dutch Parrot Refuge in Veldhoven in the southeast of the Netherlands. Apart from a amazing amount of parrots various other birds and also some mammals like Ruffed lemurs or Meerkats are kept there.

The labelling system is far from covering all species. I could identify most unlabelled species on my own or with the help of friends, but the following remain unidentified or unconfirmed:

1) oriole, probably of the genus Icterus

2) perhaps a Red-shouldered tanager (Tachyphonus phoenicius)

3) another tanager

4) dove

 

[Kowari]

5) perhaps a female Bearded manakin (Manacus manacus)

6) babbler or laughingthrush

7) probably a continga, perhaps the Sharpbill (Oxyruncus cristatus)

If you are interested in birds, I can really recommend you to visit this park, though it is quite remote. You'll find one of the largest and rarest bird collections in Europe.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[Writhedhornbill]

I can't really help with those species Kowari. I myself would need help identifying them

I really want to make a trip to the park, do they keep:

Black casqued hornbill
Piping hornbill
Calfbird
Umbrella bird
Bare throated fruitcrow

If so, do you have pictures?

 

[Kowari]

I saw the last three species you mentioned and I took several pictures of them (I'll post them on the gallery). They are all kept free-ranging in the 'TropiJoy', the large tropical hall.

But I didn't see the two hornbill species you mentioned. At least the Piping hornbills (subspecies sharpii) have recently been on exhibit as I know from a friend. Let's hope that they'll be on exhibit again soon!

 

[^Chris^]

Is picture 1 a Montserrat Oriole?

I recognise picture 6, but nothing is coming to mind.

 

[Kowari]

The bird on picture 1 is too large for a Montserrat oriole and the colour of the belly is too yellowish. A bright brown would be normal.

 

[^Chris^]

The bird on picture 1 is too large for a Montserrat oriole and the colour of the belly is too yellowish. A bright brown would be normal.

Hmm, OK, that makes sense. The only other one I would've known would be Baltimore oriole and I knew it wasn't that. I did have a look on ISIS and wikipedia though, and I wondered what you thought of Black-vented Oriole? It's not a bird I knew of previously, but it looks similar.

 

[Kowari]

In my opinion the Black-vented oriole also is the most probable candidate. But a friend who helped me with some other identifications was sceptical about that as apparently the back of this bird is too brownish.
When I browsed through all Icterus species on Avibase I found some other similar species, but no all species were shown on picture there. Apart from that the pictures on Avibase sometimes show the wrong species.
Perhaps we also have to consider other genera like Cacicus and Psarocolius. I've asked the NOP for an inventory list, but so far I haven't received any answer.

 

[Jurek7]

Hi,

I had similar problem!

Go to the parks page: Papegaai.org Papegaai.org
And go to: Papegaiienpark -> Wat te zijen -> Vogelcollecties -> Overige tropische vogel -> TropiJoy

And you can match species to names.

all the best!

BTW - The park is absolutely great, possibly on a par with Walsrode the best bird collection in continental Europe. Even if their policy of not labelling most species is rather strange.

 

[Kowari]

Thanks a lot Jurek for your help.

I had already tried to identify some species with the help of the lists on NOP's website before.
But obviously those lists are totally out of date and there are even missidentifications like for the umbrellabird. Lots of species which I've definitely seen there like Purple-throated Cotingas are not mentioned there and at the same time I didn't see plenty of species mentioned there, even of those species, which are kept in cages like the tanagers.
So let's hope that I'll get a more current list from there...

 

[condor]

I send them to a friend who knows alot about birds and he said:

1 Yellow-rumped Marshbird.
2 Golden-sided Euphonia. male.
3 Silver-beaked Tanager. immature.
4 Blue-spotted Wood Dove.
5 Golden-headed, Round-tailed, Red-capped or Red-headed Manakin. female. These very difficult to separate (sometimes impossible even by measurements) and no chance from photos.
6 Moustached Laughingthrush.
7 Bearded or Bare-throated Bellbird. female. Need good photo showing crown to separate them.

 

[Kowari]

Thanks a lot for your help! Some of the birds have meanwhile been identified on other forums and the results are all the same, so I can be quite sure about the accuracy

Concerning the manakins I'll write another mail to NOP. So far they haven't replied to my first one...

 

[condor]

I just checked the page Jurek mentioned

Papegaai.org

They mention Pipra erythrocephala (Golden-headed Manakin) and Procnias nudicollis (Bare-throated Bellbird). But I don't know how reliable this is as their photo of Pharomachrus pavoninus really is Pharomachrus auriceps and the photo of Cephalopterus ornatus really is Cephalopterus penduliger.

 

[Kowari]

I already mentioned this above, this page is totally out of date.

But they definitely keep Procnias nudicollis as I saw a male. Concerning manakins three specimens are kept there - one is a male Pipra filicauda, which is easily recognizable.
I'll write a mail to the NOP, let's hope that they know which species they belong to...

 

[Jurek7]

Hi,

A week ago I again saw unknown species. Anybody can identify these (pheasant to subspecies)?

I am especially curious if squirrel has normally black-white-black tail?

 

[Kowari]

From Dallas I can tell you which species are shown on the pics # 1,5,6 as I took them too on my visit:

#1 Pionus fuscus
#5 Lophura leucomelana lineata
#6 Pseudoleistes guirahuro (the same I've posted before on thsi thread)

 

[Jurek7]

Thanks, Kowari!

Anybody recognizes a squirrel? It is very difficult as there is no one book (or even few books) with pictures of all Sciuridae!