Wishes for Indonesian zoos & aquariums (Fantasy)

[Mossman Joe]

I think you mistook that mix with the one in Prigen, which is a mix with a large group of proboscis monkey and a pair of muntjacs I think. The Sunda porcupines were housed next door if I'm correct along with some turtles.

Correct, I wrote TSI and immediately wrote Bogor afterwards lol

The big hurdle then would be procuring Malayan porcupines as they're not kept in any Indonesian institutions

 

[Rizz Carlton]

The big hurdle then would be procuring Malayan porcupines as they're not kept in any Indonesian institutions

Bali Safari and some zoos in Sumatra still hold them, Bandung Zoo presumebly still hold them off-display.

Cisarua does have history in keeping the species up until 2021 I believe, so I honestly don't think getting them would be hard for Cisarua if Bandung or any holders have these porcupines.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

My wishes for Surabaya Zoo:

• There is an abandoned 3-story aviary near the barbary sheep enclosure that should be demolished and rebuilt as the Surabaya Zoo Oceanarium. Later all the marine animals from the zoo's aquarium will be moved here like blacktip reef shark (Carcharhinus melanopterus), live sharksucker (Echeneis naucrates), longnose surgeonfish (Naso brevirostris), mangrove red snapper (Lutjanus argentimaculatus), zebra moray (Gymnomuraena zebra), sailfin tang (Zebrasoma velifer), ocellaris clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris), regal tang (Paracanthurus hepatus), red lionfish (Pterois volitans), emperor angelfish (Pomacanthus imperator), etc. The green sea turtle (Chelonia mydas) which was previously in the reptile area, will be moved to this oceanarium and a breeding area will be created like the Bali starling. Maybe some new species could be added to enrich the oceanarium as the only marine aquarium in Surabaya such as the common seahorse (Hippocampus kuda), long-spine porcupinefish (Diodon holocanthus), spotted garden eel (Heteroconger hassi), peacock mantis shrimp (Odontodactylus scyllarus), moon jellyfish (Aurelia aurita), golden cuttlefish (Sepia esculenta), bigfin reef squid (Sepioteuthis lessoniana), big blue octopus (Octopus cyanea), and bluespotted ribbontail ray (Taeniura lymma).

There are actually no mangrove red snappers, I just remembered there should be leopard coral grouper (Plectropomus leopardus) and Malabar grouper (Epinephelus malabaricus). Apart from that, in the Surabaya Zoo marine aquarium, there is mahogany snapper (Lutjanus mahogoni), foxface rabbitfish (Siganus vulpinus), neon damselfish (Pomacentrus coelestis), bicolor angelfish (Centropyge bicolor), yellow tang (Zebrasoma flavescens), orange-fin anemonefish (Amphiprion chrysopterus), and moon wrasse (Thalassoma lunare). Maybe for Surabaya Zoo Oceanarium, I want to add some invertebrates such as chocolate chip sea star (Protoreaster nodosus), long-spined sea urchin (Diadema paucispinum), and red pencil urchin (Heterocentrotus mamillatus)

 

[Jonathan Harry]

My wishes for Surabaya Zoo:

• So the aquarium near the reptile area is enough as a freshwater aquarium only. Later new collections will be added such as red-bellied piranha (Pygocentrus nattereri), tiger datnoid (Datnioides microlepis), avocado puffer (Auriglobus modestus), Papuan freshwater sole (Brachirus selheimi), harlequin lancer catfish (Bagroides melapterus), Boeseman's rainbowfish (Melanotaenia boesemani), thunderbolt crayfish (Cherax pulcher), vampire crab (Geosesarma dennerle), Xingu River ray (Potamotrygon leopoldi), samurai gourami (Sphaerichthys vaillanti), freshwater moray (Gymnothorax polyuranodon), and goonch catfish (Bagarius yarrelli). Incidentally, these animals are already widely kept by hobbyists in Indonesia.

I want to add more to this new collection of freshwater aquariums. Maybe I'll divide the settings based on the available tanks.

• Tank 1: red-bellied piranha (Pygocentrus nattereri)
• Tank 2: avocado puffer (Auriglobus modestus)
• Tank 3: Papuan freshwater sole (Brachirus selheimi)
• Tank 4: harlequin lancer catfish (Bagroides melapterus)
• Tank 5: Boeseman's rainbowfish (Melanotaenia boesemani) and Lake Kurumoi rainbowfish (Melanotaenia parva)
• Tank 6: samurai gourami (Sphaerichthys vaillanti)
• Tank 7: freshwater moray (Gymnothorax polyuranodon)
• Tank 8: thunderbolt crayfish (Cherax pulcher)
• Tank 9: vampire crab (Geosesarma dennerle) and panther crab (Parathelphusa pantherina)
• Tank 10: filament barb (Dawkinsia filamentosa), Arulius barb (Dawkinsia arulius), and zebra danio (Danio rerio "Glofish")
• Central Tank: goonch catfish (Bagarius yarrelli)
• Tank 11: Xingu River ray (Potamotrygon leopoldi), and bigtooth river stingray (Potamotrygon henlei)
• Tank 12: tiger datnoid (Datnioides microlepis) and gulf saratoga (Scleropages jardinii)
• Tank 13: Xingu peacock bass (Cichla melaniae) and Orinoco peacock bass (Cichla orinocensis)
• Tank 14: Malawi trout (Champsochromis caeruleus) and Malawi gar (Lichnochromis acuticeps)
• Tank 15: banded archerfish (Toxotes jaculatrix) and spotted scat (Scatophagus argus)

 

[Jonathan Harry]

Speaking of TSI Bogor, here are my wishlists for TSI Bogor:

• Add thamin, brazilian tapir, and bornean bearded pig to the safari journey.
• Re-introduce roan antelopes to the safari journey.
• Replace sunda porcupines with malayan porcupines in the porcupine exhibit in safari journey.
• Phased out the white lions/striped hyena from their exhibit in baby zoo and move them to the safari journey. An aardvark will occupy it's exhibit.
• Demolish the smooth-coated otter exhibit in baby zoo and build a false gharial exhibit just like the indian gharial exhibit at night safari singapore. Painted terrapins and chinese softshell turtles will also occupy the exhibit.
• Move the sunda pangolin from the primate center to the nocturnal tunnel.
• Add channel billed toucans and mindanao bleeding-hearts to the aviary.
• Move the black-and-white lemur from the australian outback to the orangutan exhibit in baby zoo and black swans will swim in the moat.
• Phased out the dolphins from TSI Bogor and refurbished it's exhibit on the parking C zone into an aligator gar exhibit.
• Phased-out the asian-small clawed otters from it's exhibit in baby zoo and weber's sailfin lizards will occupy it's exhibit.
• Revamp the fishes at the aquarium in the reptile & nocturnal tunnel.
• Add an aquarium which houses chinese softshell turtle across the elevator area on the 1st floor at the panda palace.
• Revamp the macaque exhibit in the baby zoo into a glassed exhibit housing sunda slow loris and red giant flying squirrel.

• Roan antelope (Hippotragus equinus) could possibly replace the scimitar-horned oryx enclosure since there is only one oryx there and its horn is broken. South American tapir (Tapirus terrestris) could probably be placed next to the pygmy hippo enclosure considering there is another semi-aquatic enclosure there. Eld's deer (Rucervus eldii) and nilgai could possibly replace the watusi area near the hippopotamus enclosure. Because the watusi already has its place with zebras and wildebeests.
• Maybe the impalas can be moved to the African Village to replace the saltwater crocodile area. I mean let the saltwater crocodiles be enough in the crocodile park near Komodo Dragon Island. So the former impala area will be replaced with a striped hyena (Hyaena hyaena). The Bornean bearded pig (Sus barbatus) could possibly replace the Sumatran orangutan enclosure in Safari Journey because, in the primate zone, there are already Sumatran orangutans. Only later this new cage will be redesigned to be comfortable for bearded pigs.
  
• Actually, rather than alligator gar, it would rather have a tank as a breeding aquarium for beluga sturgeon (Huso huso) because their size can be giant and many hobbyists keep this fish. Actually, the smooth-coated otter enclosure does not need to be evicted, the place is already good I see. Maybe it would be good if the false gharial (Tomistoma schlegelii) was also in the crocodile park, not just the saltwater crocodile there.
  
• Maybe a Sunda pangolin (Manis javanica) could possibly replace the Sumatran orangutan enclosure at Baby Zoo. If it is placed in the nocturnal tunnel, then inevitably the aquarium there must be replaced. Actually, having an aquarium is good because visitors have different tastes, some enter the reptile tunnel just to see predatory fish for example. Indeed, only the name of this corridor has been changed, try calling it Safari Exotarium (a combination of reptiles, freshwater aquarium, and nocturnal animals).
• Yes, regarding the Pagai Island macaque (Macaca pagensis), they should be placed in the primate area, more precisely in the proboscis monkey enclosure in the row of langur & macaque enclosures. Because let the proboscis monkey enclosure be close to the Japanese macaque enclosure only.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

I can start with big guns like Taman Safari Bogor, Jakarta Aquarium, or Jagat Satwa Nusantara, but of all things, Solo Safari has sometimes been in the back of my mine lately.

It's weird how small in scale this zoo is despite being practicaly one of the Taman Safari parks (Solo Safari has been referred as Taman Safari 5 in some instance). I guess due to the zoo only being rebranded this year and probably not as popular compared to Cisarua and Prigen, TSI doesn't seems to be in no rush developing the collections and exhibits there. I dare to say Solo Safari is basically a classier and dated version of Safari Beach Jateng (Taman Safari 4 in Batang).

For my wishlish specifically, I hope the park managed to display most, if not all, of the species they previously held prior during the Jurug Solo Zoo-era just to make the zoo much more interesting. Species I wish to see return from that era are the Tonkean macaque, black giant squirrel, brown booby, capybara, oriental darter, Javan muntjac, and crested goshawk. Two (sub)species that I really wish to see return the most are the Javan leopard and Sumatran tiger. The tigers shouldn't be hard as a tiger exhibit is also already present for the Sumatran tigers to replace the most-likely farm-bred "Bengal" tigers, TSI might be generous to sent two breeding pairs there. As for the leopards, it could be tricky to build an new exhibit there, setting up a breeding and care plan, and where to acquire them from. Cisarua might be willing to send some leopards, but I can also see them being sent to the zoo by the Natural Resource Agency (BKSDA) from the wild due to issues like health and risk of interactions with locals.

I wish I can do a more dedicated exhibit and layout designing of the zoo with the addition of this animals, but seeing the current exhibit and layout there, I feel like I'm won't be able to get my way around that as I feel like my plan would be radically more different than what we got. At the some point in the future, I'll try making a "what if" version of Solo Safari rather than my wish, but that's the big things that I wish Solo Safari will have in the future in some ways.

Maybe if you look at it, actually in the east of the African zone and the restaurant there are still many green areas. It could be built for some enclosures. Indeed, there will be many enclosures that directly border the boundaries of the zoo area, as experienced by Surabaya Zoo.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

Hahaha I thought I was the only one noticing this. The old jingle was actually pretty decent in my opinion for a theme, it was only played in some instances in the park in Cisarua. Hoped it was played more often.

I actually first heard of the new theme song during my first visit to Solo Safari and later in Cisarua, which my first thought was that its not really good and gets really annoying with how repetitive it was.

But it does somewhat achieve its objective with how its able to burn in the back of the mind of visitors. So you can't imagine how mortified I was when I heard "LET'S GO, LET'S GO, TAMAN SAFARI" in a busy mall in Jakarta where Jakarta Aquarium is.

LOL, luckily I went to Taman Safari for the first time in 2005. Before 2011 the jingle song were different and even better than the current one, the singer was a woman.

 

[Mossman Joe]

If we went with this image from the mayor's Twitter account, this "bobcat" might not be the real thing.

There's also some more interesting new stuffs for Phase Two, including one that might be a Bird and Reptile House (Brookfield Zoo's Feathers and Scales is what I could think of). Weirdly, there's apparently going to be a crab-eating macaque exhibit, I just hope that it have a underwater view like the one in River Wonders. I'm guessing the "African Village" to be something like the African Village at Batu Secret Zoo or just a random dioarama for photoshoots.

Source: x.com

If these plans are still accurate, they're building a new Elephant Trail in that area, meaning that elephant rides are coming back to Solo Safari (somethin I'm personally not looking forward to). That should leave some space for smaller enclosures, but probably nothing too big.

They're also planning to add more theme-park amenities like a Haunted House. Looking back, the section labelled "Night Safari" might imply a future nocturnal house.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

Kampung Papua in Taman Safari Bogor is in my opinion one of the park's least popular exhibit, but to me its a interesting concept and have a lot of potential. An specific geography-based theme exhibit is my favorite, especially involving islands like Papua as seen in Cisarua. I wish we can see Kampung Papua as an proper Papua-based exhibit, as currently it seems like the Papua-theming of the exhibit revolved around the southern cassowary, several wallabies, and occasionaly grizzled tree-kangaroo more, with other exhibits housing several species that could've been housed in other exhibits, like the non-Papuan alligator snapping tortoise.

Here is my version of Kampung Papua:

• The current exhibit for a pair of southern cassowary is decent and also somewhat the main exhibit of Kampung Papua. It was formerly a Komodo dragon exhibit before the Komodo Dragon Island was built in early 2010's, making it a bit unfitting for the cassowaries in regard to decoration and foliage (For some reason barely unchanged from when the dragons were still in this exhibit). Though I can see the cassowary stay with revamping the exhibit to be more fitting, I do wish to see something else in this rather nice exhibit. Though honestly a very wishful thinking, I can see this exhibit housing several New Guinea singing dogs, of course with safety measures to prevent people and things from falling over to the exhibit (Like the wires around the fences in the white tiger exhibit in Cisarua's Baby Zoo). This dogs are present in several US zoos that if Cisarua interested in might be able to work with, as opposed with trying to sourcing them locally (Which may involve shady business).
• The two aviaries do houses Papuan birds (Blyth's hornbill and palm cockatoo) and black-backed swamphen, but I feel like adding birds-of-paradise would be more fitting and would make Kampung Papua even stands out, being regarded as one of the natural icons of Papua. Cisarua already held three species; lesser (Minor and finschi), red, and twelve-wired bird-of-paradise. I feel like the aviaries should hold the twelve-wired bird-of-paradise and the finschi lesser bird-of-paradise in the aviaries. Adding other passerines or pigeons could be risky, species like the masked lapwing and pied stilt might work as they dwell in the bottom of the aviaries, reducing risk of agression by the birds-of-paradise and to make the aviaries more attractive.
• The large pond in Kampung Papua held several non-Papuan species like the black swan, Amboina box turtle, and the hidden Alligator snapping turtle. Previously, this exhibit held several young saltwater crocodiles, which does present in the island of Papua. But, since there are already six salties exhibit in Cisarua (All four exhibits in "Crocodile Park" held salties of various sizes), the New Guinea crocodile would be even more fitting for Kampung Papua. With younger crocodiles, it would be possible to add several Papuan turtles and fishes. Cisarua already held pig-nosed turtle, elseya branderhorsti (Transferred from Royal Safari Garden resort), and elseya novaeguinae, either of the elseyas and the pig-nosed turtle could be displayed here along with a group of red-bellied short-necked turtle and a pair of northern snake-necked turtle (Transferred from Jakarta Aquarium). More water could be filled to make a underwater view section in the already present underground section of Kampung Papua, where it would be possible to see the pig-nosed turtle and various species of rainbowfishes more clearly.
• The main macropod exhibit is often very empty, with only several agile wallabies and occasionaly dusky pademelon and grizzled tree-kangaroo. I'll like to see this exhibit to house a large mix of macropod, each species in a small group, which include all three said macropods and a couple of white-striped dorcopsis from the other exhibit in the mix.
• The two nocturnal exhibits is one of the interesting part of Kampung Papua, currently housing a mix exhibit with sugar glider and four-toed hedgehog as well as one housing Javan mongoose. In my pitch, the sugar glider obviously would stay with the hedgehogs being replaced by an Irian Jaya blue-tongued skink from the Reptile Tunnel. The mongoose exhibit will see an common spotted cuscus returning to this exhibit (As previously does prior to 2019). If possible, I do wish to see some of the Raffray's bandicoot being transferred from Prigen for display in Cisarua. Maybe one or two could be housed together with the cuscus, as the exhibit is actually quite big and the cuscus hopefully prefer staying above to minimized interaction with the bandicoots.
• Aside from a glassed below view for the pond and several exhibits, the undergound area of Kampung Papua only have several stuffed wallabies and birds-of-paradise. To make it more interesting, I consider adding multiple terrariums similar to the indoor wombat cave in Prigen. There will be five planted terrarium ranging from small to large. Two small terrariums houses red-eyed crocodile skink and emerald tree skink, the third medium-sized terrarium houses green tree python, two larger terrarium houses an Darwin carpet python and a pair of blue tree monitor.
• The last exhibit is a quite large, unsigned exhibit that houses several dorcopsis. I assume this is a temporary holding cage, but the dorcopsis has been there for a long time. As the dorcopsis is moved to the main macropod exhibit, this exhibit will be where the cassowaries housed in, as this exhibit do actually houses the southern cassowaries when the Komodo dragons were still in their future exhibit and since I feel like cassowaries is kind of a must in Papua-based exhibit (Being as popular as the birds-of-paradise in being the icon of the island). Though, I see the northern cassowary to be more fitting as they're exclusively from that island (Unlike the southern species that can be found in the Mollucas and northern Australia).

These are my wish for Kampung Papua in the future, despite being flawed, its still one of my favorite exhibits in Taman Safari Bogor. I'll try writing my wishes and ideas for other least popular exhibits (The Asian forest tortoise exhibit and the meerkat-mandrill-proboscis monkey-Japanese macaque complex are in my mind) in the next few days.

I saw in Kampung Papua there is a black swan, maybe it can be replaced with a New Guinea crocodile (Crocodylus novaeguineae). And for the Javan mongoose can be placed in the nocturnal tunnel (replace sugar glider and hedgehogs) so that the one next to the common spotted cuscus (Spilocuscus maculatus) and sugar glider enclosure can be occupied by Raffray's bandicoot (Peroryctes raffrayana).

Incidentally, in the Komodo Dragon Island area, there is an old mining-style reptile terrarium such as a common boa (Boa constrictor) that has 3 cages, reticulated python (Malayopython reticulatus) that has 3 cages, Indian star tortoise (Geochelone elegans), corn snake (Pantherophis guttatus), D'Albertis' python (Leiopython albertisii), and Everglades ratsnake (Elaphe obsoleta rossalleni, now became Pantherophis alleghaniensis). Actually, it would be better if the area for Komodo dragons were native animals of East Nusa Tenggara or eastern Indonesia. 2 reticulated python cages can be replaced with Timor python (Malayopython timoriensis) and Macklot's python (Liasis mackloti). Common boas can be replaced with Moluccan python (Simalia clastolepis), emerald tree skink (Lamprolepis smaragdina), and Timor monitor (Varanus timorensis). A corn snake can be replaced with a giant bent-toed gecko (Cyrtodactylus irianjayaensis) and an Indian star tortoise can be replaced with a Halmahera giant gecko (Gehyra marginata). Ratsnake can be exchanged for blue insular pit viper (Trimeresurus insularis) from reptile tunnel, so let Everglades ratsnake be placed in the reptile tunnel only.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

Reptile tunnel in Taman Safari Bogor has reticulated python (Malayopython reticulatus) and the albino morph has 3 cages and other morphs have their own 1 cage, king cobra (Ophiophagus hannah), Asian water monitor (Varanus salvator), yellow anaconda (Eunectes notaeus), Halmahera sailfin dragon (Hydrosaurus weberi), juvenile false gharial (Tomistoma schlegelii), common boa (Boa constrictor) that has 2 cages, Malayan pit viper (Calloselasma rhodostoma), Javan spitting cobra (Naja sputatrix) and the albino morph has 2 cages, emerald tree monitor (Varanus prasinus), Texas ratsnake (Elaphe obsoleta lindheimeri), corn snake (Pantherophis guttatus), water python (Liasis fuscus), banded krait (Bungarus fasciatus), sunbeam snake (Xenopeltis unicolor), Burmese python (Python bivittatus), Indonesian blue-tongued skink (Tiliqua gigas), green tree python (Morelia viridis), milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum), Indian star tortoise (Geochelone elegans), blue tree monitor (Varanus macraei), D'Albertis' python (Leiopython albertisii), and ball python (Python regius). It is better to replace the other boa cage with an elephant trunk snake (Acrochordus javanicus). The albino cobra cage will replaced with a Chinese rat snake (Ptyas korros) and an Everglades rat snake (Pantherophis alleghaniensis). 3 albino python cages should be replaced with green iguana (Iguana iguana), Argentine black and white tegu (Salvator merianae), and tricolor monitor (Varanus yuwonoi). For juvenile gharial, it is better to replace it with northern caiman lizard (Dracaena guianensis).

For buffy fish owls in the nocturnal tunnel, it is better to replace them with Oriental bay owl (Phodilus badius) because their size is more suitable there. Hedgehog replaced with Javan mongoose (Urva javanica) and sugar glider replaced with Prevost's squirrel (Callosciurus prevostii).

 

[Mossman Joe]

I want to add more to this new collection of freshwater aquariums. Maybe I'll divide the settings based on the available tanks.

• Tank 1: red-bellied piranha (Pygocentrus nattereri)
• Tank 2: avocado puffer (Auriglobus modestus)
• Tank 3: Papuan freshwater sole (Brachirus selheimi)
• Tank 4: harlequin lancer catfish (Bagroides melapterus)
• Tank 5: Boeseman's rainbowfish (Melanotaenia boesemani) and Lake Kurumoi rainbowfish (Melanotaenia parva)
• Tank 6: samurai gourami (Sphaerichthys vaillanti)
• Tank 7: freshwater moray (Gymnothorax polyuranodon)
• Tank 8: thunderbolt crayfish (Cherax pulcher)
• Tank 9: vampire crab (Geosesarma dennerle) and panther crab (Parathelphusa pantherina)
• Tank 10: filament barb (Dawkinsia filamentosa), Arulius barb (Dawkinsia arulius), and zebra danio (Danio rerio "Glofish")
• Central Tank: goonch catfish (Bagarius yarrelli)
• Tank 11: Xingu River ray (Potamotrygon leopoldi), and bigtooth river stingray (Potamotrygon henlei)
• Tank 12: tiger datnoid (Datnioides microlepis) and gulf saratoga (Scleropages jardinii)
• Tank 13: Xingu peacock bass (Cichla melaniae) and Orinoco peacock bass (Cichla orinocensis)
• Tank 14: Malawi trout (Champsochromis caeruleus) and Malawi gar (Lichnochromis acuticeps)
• Tank 15: banded archerfish (Toxotes jaculatrix) and spotted scat (Scatophagus argus)

Depending on the size of the tank, these tanks could be used to hold more species as community tanks.

• Tank 3 could see the addition of Sailfin Mollies or a medium-sized native Glassfish (Parambassis sp.)
• Tank 6 could become a Bornean blackwater biotope, adding species such as Kuhli loaches (Pangio kuhlii) and Harlequin Rasbora (Trigonostigma heteromorpha) or Cherry rasbora (Boraras brigittae)
• Tank 15 could use Mangrove Horseshoe Crabs (Carcinoscorpius rotundicauda) and/or Juvenile Silver Moony (Monodactylus argenteus)

I'm not well versed enough in larger fish to say what could be added to the other tanks, but I'm sure there are suitable tankmates for some of them

 

[Rizz Carlton]

Reptile tunnel in Taman Safari Bogor has reticulated python (Malayopython reticulatus) and the albino morph has 3 cages and other morphs have their own 1 cage, king cobra (Ophiophagus hannah), Asian water monitor (Varanus salvator), yellow anaconda (Eunectes notaeus), Halmahera sailfin dragon (Hydrosaurus weberi), juvenile false gharial (Tomistoma schlegelii), common boa (Boa constrictor) that has 2 cages, Malayan pit viper (Calloselasma rhodostoma), Javan spitting cobra (Naja sputatrix) and the albino morph has 2 cages, emerald tree monitor (Varanus prasinus), Texas ratsnake (Elaphe obsoleta lindheimeri), corn snake (Pantherophis guttatus), water python (Liasis fuscus), banded krait (Bungarus fasciatus), sunbeam snake (Xenopeltis unicolor), Burmese python (Python bivittatus), Indonesian blue-tongued skink (Tiliqua gigas), green tree python (Morelia viridis), milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum), Indian star tortoise (Geochelone elegans), blue tree monitor (Varanus macraei), D'Albertis' python (Leiopython albertisii), and ball python (Python regius). It is better to replace the other boa cage with an elephant trunk snake (Acrochordus javanicus). The albino cobra cage will replaced with a Chinese rat snake (Ptyas korros) and an Everglades rat snake (Pantherophis alleghaniensis). 3 albino python cages should be replaced with green iguana (Iguana iguana), Argentine black and white tegu (Salvator merianae), and tricolor monitor (Varanus yuwonoi). For juvenile gharial, it is better to replace it with northern caiman lizard (Dracaena guianensis).

For buffy fish owls in the nocturnal tunnel, it is better to replace them with Oriental bay owl (Phodilus badius) because their size is more suitable there. Hedgehog replaced with Javan mongoose (Urva javanica) and sugar glider replaced with Prevost's squirrel (Callosciurus prevostii).

It would be nice in my opinion to revamp the reptile parts of the tunnel and partially the main aquarium into a bunch of mixed species vivariums in style with BRIN Animalium and Jagat Satwa Nusantara. As for the nocturnal house, I'm thinking of making it exclusively small nocturnal mammals to make it more stand out instead of adding owls and common pets (I.e sugar glider and four-toed hedgehog)

I'll try elaborating this in a bigger pitch of my version of Taman Safari Bogor.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

It would be nice in my opinion to revamp the reptile parts of the tunnel and partially the main aquarium into a bunch of mixed species vivariums in style with BRIN Animalium and Jagat Satwa Nusantara. As for the nocturnal house, I'm thinking of making it exclusively small nocturnal mammals to make it more stand out instead of adding owls and common pets (I.e sugar glider and four-toed hedgehog)

I'll try elaborating this in a bigger pitch of my version of Taman Safari Bogor.

Maybe the spectral tarsier (Tarsius spectrum) is suitable to replace the owl there, incidentally, there is a poster of a tarsier in the nocturnal tunnel but the animal is not there. I thought about it again, maybe the sugar glider in the nocturnal tunnel will replaced with a Horsfield's tarsier (Cephalopachus bancanus) because there was a poster of it there too.

Maybe the aquarium in the reptile tunnel could be replaced with a mixed-species one like Cuvier's dwarf caiman (Paleosuchus palpebrosus), northern caiman lizard (Dracaena guianensis), plumed basilisk (Basiliscus plumifrons), and matamata (Chelus fimbriata), exactly the same as the one in Reptopia at Singapore Zoo. So my initial idea was to replace the juvenile gharial with a caiman lizard, preferably a mixed-species one like a frilled lizard (Chlamydosaurus kingii) and central bearded dragon (Pogona vitticeps). I remember there was an aquarium in the visitor center near Safari Lodge, maybe the fish from the aquarium like alligator gar (Atractosteus spatula), black pacu (Colossoma macropomum), giant gourami (Osphronemus goramy), common pleco (Hypostomus plecostomus), and giant featherback (Chitala lopis) could be moved to the visitor center. Or make a lobby fit-out so there is a megatank there so that there can be new species such as an arapaima gigas, albino iridescent shark catfish (Pangasianodon hypophthalmus), and giant pangasius (Pangasius sanitwongsei).

 

[Rizz Carlton]

Maybe the spectral tarsier (Tarsius spectrum) is suitable to replace the owl there, incidentally, there is a poster of a tarsier in the nocturnal tunnel but the animal is not there. I thought about it again, maybe the sugar glider in the nocturnal tunnel will replaced with a Horsfield's tarsier (Cephalopachus bancanus) because there was a poster of it there too.

There is indeed three posters in the nocturnal house which depict horsfield's tarsier, spectral tarsier, and Javan slow loris, these three were the original lineup in the small complex in the Primate Centre prior to 2020 (Which as of August 2024 houses Sunda pangolin, Javan slow loris, and an empty exhibit).

It was said that they no longer have tarsiers, so the pangolin and slow loris that are there could be moved to the nocturnal house.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

For Taman Safari Prigen, there are many changes to the bird aviary. The grey-crowned crane will be replaced with a scarlet ibis (Eudocimus ruber) because there was already a grey-crowned crane in Safari Journey. Because there are 2 Brahminy kite cages, one will be replaced with a peregrine falcon (Falco peregrinus), because coincidentally this animal is also widely kept by falconers in Indonesia. There are 2 blue-and-yellow macaw cages, one will be replaced with an Illiger's macaw (Primolius maracana). The Victoria crowned pigeon single cage will replaced by a greater bird-of-paradise (Paradisaea apoda) because there are already crowned pigeons in the mixed-species aviary. The southern cassowary enclosure should be replaced with a dwarf cassowary (Casuarius bennetti) since there is already a southern cassowary in Safari Journey.

Because there are 2 Bengal tiger enclosures (one in Tiger Cave Resto), it would actually be better if the one outside Tiger Cave Resto was replaced with an Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persica) to introduce new wildlife to Indonesia and create a new breeding program. The white lions should be moved to Safari Journey because the lion area there is quite large, so the area where the white lions used to be in Baby Zoo can be filled by a cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus). For the petting zoo near the Baby Zoo, it is better not to fill it with livestock because like ponies, sheep, goats, or rabbits are already in the Oriental Circus area. Maybe spotted deer (Axis axis), agile wallaby (Notamacropus agilis), and sitatunga (Tragelaphus spekii) can be a resident animal there, same as the one at Bali Zoo. So in Safari Journey, the spotted deer can be replaced with a Turkmenian kulan (Equus hemionus kulan) and sitatunga can be replaced with a gemsbok (Oryx gazella).

For the snake park which is usually inhabited by reticulated pythons only, it should be redesigned into Herpetopia. Later it will become a place for mixed-species reptiles such as Cuvier's dwarf caiman (Paleosuchus palpebrosus), Indonesian giant sailfin dragon (Hydrosaurus microlophus), Bornean river turtle (Orlitia borneensis), Amboina box turtle (Cuora amboinensis), and common flying dragon (Draco volans). The hut house inside will be filled with a mixed-species terrarium containing emerald tree boa (Corallus caninus), waxy-monkey tree frog (Phyllomedusa bicolor), dyeing poison dart frog (Dendrobates tinctorius), and bumblebee poison dart frog (Dendrobates leucomelas).

 

[Jonathan Harry]

I wish that on the Rainforest Trail at Bali Safari & Marine Park, the greater flamingos would be replaced with mixed species such as American flamingo (Phoenicopterus ruber), white-faced whistling duck (Dendrocygna viduata), and white-cheeked pintail (Anas bahamensis). The spotted deer would be replaced with a South American tapir (Tapirus terrestris) and a binturong can be replaced with a South American coati (Nasua nasua). A rabbit should be replaced with a capybara (Hydrochoerus hydrochaeris) and the Asian small-clawed otter will replaced by a giant river otter (Pteronura brasiliensis). Aldabra tortoises should be replaced with Galápagos tortoises (Chelonoidis niger) because some keep this animal in Indonesia.

Since the babirusa is on the Rainforest Trail, the one on Safari Journey should be replaced with a Bornean bearded pig (Sus barbatus). I remember there was a bus route from the entrance terminal to the Lobby Barong. It would be better if the area were redesigned as a kind of Baby Zoo. Later the animals that were replaced from the Rainforest Trail will be moved here like Asian small-clawed otter (Aonyx cinereus), binturong (Arctictis binturong), greater flamingo (Phoenicopterus roseus), and Aldabra giant tortoise (Aldabrachelys gigantea). The striped hyena should be placed in this area so that in the Safari Journey, it can be placed back by the cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus). For lovebirds in the Bali starling aviary, it is better to replace them with Indonesian lorikeets such as Biak lorikeet (Trichoglossus rosenbergii), Sumba lorikeet (Trichoglossus capistratus), and iris lorikeet (Saudareos iris). Coincidentally, these bird species can be found at Anak Burung Tropikana, a special breeding place in Gianyar (the same location as Bali Safari & Marine Park).

It would be better if the red-eared slider enclosure was supplemented with other species such as the Amboina box turtle (Cuora amboinensis) and Bornean river turtle (Orlitia borneensis) because the enclosure is quite spacious. In the Komodo dragon area, there are two enclosures for pig-nosed turtles, the first is an enclosure with a Komodo dragon and the second has a small single enclosure near the Komodo dragon nest diorama. It would be better if this single enclosure was replaced with painted terrapin (Batagur borneoensis). Since there are 2 piranha tanks, one will be replaced with mixed species such as white-edge freshwater whipray (Fluvitrygon signifer), fire eel (Mastacembelus erythrotaenia), pearl gourami (Trichopodus leerii), and tiger barb (Puntigrus tetrazona). For the manfish and Chinese algae eater tank, new species can be added such as black tetra (Gymnocorymbus ternetzi "Glofish"), Nicaraguan cichlid (Hypsophrys nicaraguensis), and redhead cichlid (Paraneetroplus synspilus) because the size of this tank is big.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

For Taman Safari Prigen, there are many changes to the bird aviary. The grey-crowned crane will be replaced with a scarlet ibis (Eudocimus ruber) because there was already a grey-crowned crane in Safari Journey. Because there are 2 Brahminy kite cages, one will be replaced with a peregrine falcon (Falco peregrinus), because coincidentally this animal is also widely kept by falconers in Indonesia. There are 2 blue-and-yellow macaw cages, one will be replaced with an Illiger's macaw (Primolius maracana). The Victoria crowned pigeon single cage will replaced by a greater bird-of-paradise (Paradisaea apoda) because there are already crowned pigeons in the mixed-species aviary. The southern cassowary enclosure should be replaced with a dwarf cassowary (Casuarius bennetti) since there is already a southern cassowary in Safari Journey.

Because there are 2 Bengal tiger enclosures (one in Tiger Cave Resto), it would actually be better if the one outside Tiger Cave Resto was replaced with an Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persica) to introduce new wildlife to Indonesia and create a new breeding program. The white lions should be moved to Safari Journey because the lion area there is quite large, so the area where the white lions used to be in Baby Zoo can be filled by a cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus). For the petting zoo near the Baby Zoo, it is better not to fill it with livestock because like ponies, sheep, goats, or rabbits are already in the Oriental Circus area. Maybe spotted deer (Axis axis), agile wallaby (Notamacropus agilis), and sitatunga (Tragelaphus spekii) can be a resident animal there, same as the one at Bali Zoo. So in Safari Journey, the spotted deer can be replaced with a Turkmenian kulan (Equus hemionus kulan) and sitatunga can be replaced with a gemsbok (Oryx gazella).

For the snake park which is usually inhabited by reticulated pythons only, it should be redesigned into Herpetopia. Later it will become a place for mixed-species reptiles such as Cuvier's dwarf caiman (Paleosuchus palpebrosus), Indonesian giant sailfin dragon (Hydrosaurus microlophus), Bornean river turtle (Orlitia borneensis), Amboina box turtle (Cuora amboinensis), and common flying dragon (Draco volans). The hut house inside will be filled with a mixed-species terrarium containing emerald tree boa (Corallus caninus), waxy-monkey tree frog (Phyllomedusa bicolor), dyeing poison dart frog (Dendrobates tinctorius), and bumblebee poison dart frog (Dendrobates leucomelas).

Something is missing. For the ostrich in the Enchanting Forest, it is better to replace it with greater rhea (Rhea americana) and a llama will replaced by an alpaca (Lama pacos).

 

[Jonathan Harry]

• Aside from a glassed below view for the pond and several exhibits, the undergound area of Kampung Papua only have several stuffed wallabies and birds-of-paradise. To make it more interesting, I consider adding multiple terrariums similar to the indoor wombat cave in Prigen. There will be five planted terrarium ranging from small to large. Two small terrariums houses red-eyed crocodile skink and emerald tree skink, the third medium-sized terrarium houses green tree python, two larger terrarium houses an Darwin carpet python and a pair of blue tree monitor.

If we think again about the underground area in Kampung Papua, it is actually not good if it only contains reptiles. Moreover, this is a special area for Papuan animals, so we must try to include Papuan animals that are rarely found in other zoos in Indonesia. Maybe the underground area can be filled by a striped possum (Dactylopsila trivirgata), bronze quoll (Dasyurus spartacus), and giant bandicoot (Peroryctes broadbenti), even though this animal is originally only from Papua New Guinea LOL. Indeed, bronze quolls and giant bandicoots did not last long at Batu Secret Zoo, perhaps due to the lack of research and studies on breeding these animals. But who knows, Taman Safari Indonesia can find a solution for breeding animals like these.

Because reptiles such as red-eyed crocodile skink (Tribolonotus gracilis), Darwin carpet python (Morelia spilota variegata), Papua snake lizard (Lialis jicari), New Guinea ground boa (Candoia aspera), and smooth-scaled death adder (Acanthophis laevis) can be placed with an old-mining model like in the Komodo dragon area, they will later be placed at several points in Kampung Papua.

 

[Rizz Carlton]

If we think again about the underground area in Kampung Papua, it is actually not good if it only contains reptiles. Moreover, this is a special area for Papuan animals, so we must try to include Papuan animals that are rarely found in other zoos in Indonesia. Maybe the underground area can be filled by a striped possum (Dactylopsila trivirgata), bronze quoll (Dasyurus spartacus), and giant bandicoot (Peroryctes broadbenti), even though this animal is originally only from Papua New Guinea LOL.

Like I said in the previous reply, the underground area is small and cramped, no way it could realisticly fit to make a new exhibit unless you're willing to put these rare species in a commercial pet cage. Which is why I left them out for this area in favor for smaller to medium-sized reptiles, amphibians, and maybe also insects.

I thought of making the two nocturnal exhibits above into mixed exhibits, which I managed to make with the common spotted cuscus and Raffray's bandicoot. Long-beaked echidna are too big for these exhibits, while the quoll probably wouldn't end well due to them being predators and all. Couldn't think of a good mix with the sugar glider sadly.

Because reptiles such as red-eyed crocodile skink (Tribolonotus gracilis), Darwin carpet python (Morelia spilota variegata), Papua snake lizard (Lialis jicari), New Guinea ground boa (Candoia aspera), and smooth-scaled death adder (Acanthophis laevis) can be placed with an old-mining model like in the Komodo dragon area, they will later be placed at several points in Kampung Papua.

Kampung Papua is not really a big exhibit. So, if we used the old-mining model, these points are in the underground cassowary view (Which used to have an exhibit for reticulated python), in the cassowary exhibit area, in the shelter between the pond and the aviaries (Need to be limited in term of size and number in order not to block the view for the aviaries), and maybe some crate-styled terrariums around the tree-kangaroo exhibit, of course with shelters to protect them from elements like glaring and rain.

 

[Jonathan Harry]

Like I said in the previous reply, the underground area is small and cramped, no way it could realisticly fit to make a new exhibit unless you're willing to put these rare species in a commercial pet cage. Which is why I left them out for this area in favor for smaller to medium-sized reptiles, amphibians, and maybe also insects.

I thought of making the two nocturnal exhibits above into mixed exhibits, which I managed to make with the common spotted cuscus and Raffray's bandicoot. Long-beaked echidna are too big for these exhibits, while the quoll probably wouldn't end well due to them being predators and all. Couldn't think of a good mix with the sugar glider sadly.


Kampung Papua is not really a big exhibit. So, if we used the old-mining model, these points are in the underground cassowary view (Which used to have an exhibit for reticulated python), in the cassowary exhibit area, in the shelter between the pond and the aviaries (Need to be limited in term of size and number in order not to block the view for the aviaries), and maybe some crate-styled terrariums around the tree-kangaroo exhibit, of course with shelters to protect them from elements like glaring and rain.

I see. Actually, in my idea at that time, sugar gliders were in the same cage as common spotted cuscus (that's why sugar gliders shouldn't be in the nocturnal tunnel), so that the bandicoots would have their own cage. The goal was to introduce to visitors that Indonesia has bandicoots, and the plan was to have a poster advertising Crash Bandicoot at the entrance of Kampung Papua, which symbolizes Raffray's bandicoot. Just like back when the meerkats and mandrills were brought in, there are Lion King (Timon & Rafiki) posters.

Yes, it might be possible if the green tree python and blue tree monitor were moved to Kampung Papua, but it would have an impact on the reptile tunnel, which would have to be replaced with new species such as the Asian vine snake (Ahaetulla prasina) and central bearded dragon (Pogona vitticeps) from Taman Safari Prigen.